Bracie Smathers
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I think Guardians is actually a reference to this statue on this bridge in Cleveland.I’m fine with the new name, though I am curious to see if they use a mascot or something. The name is admittedly vague on that front.
The name is based on two art deco statues on the Hope Street Bridge that are really cool so I'm sure their is going to be lots of people jumping on that bandwagon.I’m fine with the new name, though I am curious to see if they use a mascot or something. The name is admittedly vague on that front.
I agree.Further erasing all traces of Native American tradition in American popular culture.
Geez, for a second there I thought you were going to say “jumping off the bridge” and I was thinking that sure doesn’t seem ideal.The name is based on two art deco statues on the Hope Street Bridge that are really cool so I'm sure their is going to be lots of people jumping on that bandwagon.
The Cleveland Guardians
Ok, that could work as a mascot.The name is based on two art deco statues on the Hope Street Bridge that are really cool so I'm sure their is going to be lots of people jumping on that bandwagon.
The Cleveland Guardians
Apparently they had a professional baseball team named Spiders in Cleveland during the late 1800s, so that would have been cool. This is more than fine though. The statues are pretty neat.What were some of the other choices again? Heard “Spiders” a lot. Guardians is pretty meh.
I saw the statues from a story above. Guess it depends on the logo. A good graphic designer can make something cool from that.Apparently they had a professional baseball team named Spiders in Cleveland during the late 1800s, so that would have been cool. This is more than fine though. The statues are pretty neat.
Yeah, the indigenous peoples of North America played a #### ton of baseball before a bunch of white people rudely destroyed their culture and oppressed them for a few hundred years.Further erasing all traces of Native American tradition in American popular culture.
So clearly let's erase all mentions of them ever existing in order to help fix that.Yeah, the indigenous peoples of North America played a #### ton of baseball before a bunch of white people rudely destroyed their culture and oppressed them for a few hundred years.
Yes. Let's eliminate any memory of their culture to keep non native American people from being offended. Good plan.I agree.
Also....that's a good thing.
You're not exactly making your case when you admit that your memory of a culture is reduced to a cartoonish stereotype.Yes. Let's eliminate any memory of their cultureI agree.
Also....that's a good thing.
This is the latest erasure. Every other public mention of it is slowly being eliminated. By non Native Americans all while real native Americans still live in poverty in this country. But hey at least that "offensive" team name is gone. That will help them feel better.You're not exactly making your case when you admit that your memory of a culture is reduced to a cartoonish stereotype.
One way to focus on real native Americans would be to stop using a cartoonish stereotype as our only memory of their culture.This is the latest erasure. Every other public mention of it is slowly being eliminated. By non Native Americans all while real native Americans still live in poverty in this country. But hey at least that "offensive" team name is gone. That will help them feel better.You're not exactly making your case when you admit that your memory of a culture is reduced to a cartoonish stereotype.
it’s the most insane argument. Give your kids a history book, Jesus ChristLOL. "How will our kids learn of the legacy of Chief Knockahoma now?"
The analytics department preferred MediansKinda of sounds the same. 3 syllables; "ians" at the end. Could be worse.
Their culture was sports? In this case a cartoon character representing a baseball team.Yes. Let's eliminate any memory of their culture to keep non native American people from being offended. Good plan.
Native tradition isn't being a mascot or name of American pop culture.Further erasing all traces of Native American tradition in American popular culture.
Bracie never stops impressing about his dealings with the "supernatural." Keep doing it, Bracie! You're killing it, kid.Years ago I stumbled upon an ancient native burial sight. Was drawn to it. Located on an island far out in the wilderness.
I've sought out places like THIS and planned my entire vacation to get there on the summer solstice and to get to other sacred places at critical times. I do this with deep intention.
Native Americans literally protested against the Indians name outside the stadium a bunch of times.This is always the argument. "Open a history book". Yes those have existed. There's a whole museum dedicated to it in Washington DC. The kids are really lining up for those.
But what purpose does removing "offensive" names from sports teams or colleges, or cities and towns. It's not to protect Native American feelings from getting hurt. It's to make non native American people to feel better about themselves. They could rework the images or the names in order to incorporate the legacy better but they don't. They erase it.
Even if you think the name was respectful (I could see that argument) the logo was completely preposterous. That’s not even debatable.I mean, really, unless you're going to give the land and resources back, why sanctify the names and images? What on earth does it represent other than guilt about something?
"Guilt about what?"
Well, about how our civilization took and resources and destroyed a way of life, not to mention every countryside in the way.
Really, what is proper restitution?
It's probably way more than a name, and it involves a lot of places you live. Good luck with that issue, Tulsa. "Civilzation" won, and there's no use hiding it. There's only guilt, and therefore restitution, or abiding it. Empty symbols and image-affirmation means nothing except to Shaheen LIttlefeather and the Hollywood jet set.
Rock you carry a grudge for decades and state a wish to curse out a bar. Your posts are a cry for help.Bracie never stops impressing about his dealings with the "supernatural." Keep doing it, Bracie! You're killing it, kid.
I once again pray for your mental health.
I heard Cleveland was seriously considering Blue Sox.They play in a league where two teams are named after socks, how bad can it be?