Thinking Lawrence or Lance for my first pick to pair with Josh.
I guess it depends on whether we're talking redraft/keeper/dynasty. As mentioned, we keep 8 in my league, so it's quasi-dynasty and the rookie QBs will go much earlier than the Bradys, Staffords, Mayfields and Ryans of the world.WOndering if this is the correct play.... Stud QB in rnd 1, Stud rb/wr in rnd 2 and wait til rnd 3 or so to nab a rookie/fresh QB in rnd 3 (maybe 4)... But my gut is telling me these guys might even get nabbed in rnd 2 uke:
Superflex is tough because you truly just don't know what others are thinking in terms of QB and that's what makes it awesome! It was a dynasty startup SF league but I picked 12/12 so I had 12 and 13 and grabbed Dak & Joe Burrow. Almost nobody else grabbed a second QB until round 4. You truly just never know.WOndering if this is the correct play.... Stud QB in rnd 1, Stud rb/wr in rnd 2 and wait til rnd 3 or so to nab a rookie/fresh QB in rnd 3 (maybe 4)... But my gut is telling me these guys might even get nabbed in rnd 2 uke:
I've never played a sf but I think it would be different than a 1qb even if you weren't going for a stud. You can generally get a starting qb in the final rounds of a 1qb if you wait on the position, but depending on the size of your sf you may be stuck with just backups by that point, even if qbs are trickling off the board instead of flowing.As someone mentioned up thread the when is totally league dependent. If your league is QB happy they fly off, if not it's not much different than a 1 QB for the first part of the draft.
Of course but typically you track players picked and know that you need that position so you draft accordingly.I've never played a sf but I think it would be different than a 1qb even if you weren't going for a stud. You can generally get a starting qb in the final rounds of a 1qb if you wait on the position, but depending on the size of your sf you may be stuck with just backups by that point, even if qbs are trickling off the board instead of flowing.
This has been my experience as well. The tricky part about the draft is making sure you don’t get completely SOL on the position. Ideally you’re able to take value when it presents itself.Gally said:As someone mentioned up thread the when is totally league dependent. If your league is QB happy they fly off, if not it's not much different than a 1 QB for the first part of the draft.
As for who to take, I try and get someone out of my first two tiers and knowing my league helps allow that to happen as I can see a QB run happening and try and be in the top half of each run.
If you have Mahomes, Murray, and Wilson why do you need to trade for another starter? That is a perfect trio for a SF.in my dynasty superflex im sitting pretty with Mahomes and Murray. Drafted Z.Wilson with my 2nd 2nd round pick this year. I need to trade for another starter tho. Had Arodg last year but i couldnt afford him to keep some of my other dudes so let him go for a 2nd round RFA bid. Thats the pick i used to draft Wilson.
Agree on both…I’d be happy with Stafford as my 2nd QBI think Fields is gonna be a late season superflex league winner. Grab him late and be willing to eat a bench spot.
Also have eyes on Stafford. Often discounted, not flashy, and maybe that's changed with moving to LA but I think he's gonna be a steal.
It’s certainly less murky for keeper/dynasty leagues but clear as mud for redraft.The QB landscape is pretty dicey this year for superflex leagues. The way I see it, once you get past a QB like Tannehill at around QB10, you have Hurts who has only done it for 4 or so games..... you have Stafford changing teams, Burrow struggling to come back from his ACL injury, can Tua improve, Lawrence is a rookie, Ryan lost Julio, Carr is mediocre, Cousins and Mayfield don't have big ceilings.....is father time catching up with Big Ben, do you trust Daniel Jones, Fitz and Darnold are on new teams...Z Wilson is a rookie......when will Wentz return...when will Fields become QB in CHI...when will Lance be the QB in SF.... and who will QB in NE, DEN, NO, and HOU? There is a lot of question marks past QB10 this year.
So my strategy this year is to try and get 2 top 10 guys, but I would be happy with Stafford as my QB2.
This a great breakdown Illini…i have found that to be competitive in a SuperFlex league you can’t ‘neglect’ the 2nd QB by waiting too long.The QB landscape is pretty dicey this year for superflex leagues. The way I see it, once you get past a QB like Tannehill at around QB10, you have Hurts who has only done it for 4 or so games..... you have Stafford changing teams, Burrow struggling to come back from his ACL injury, can Tua improve, Lawrence is a rookie, Ryan lost Julio, Carr is mediocre, Cousins and Mayfield don't have big ceilings.....is father time catching up with Big Ben, do you trust Daniel Jones, Fitz and Darnold are on new teams...Z Wilson is a rookie......when will Wentz return...when will Fields become QB in CHI...when will Lance be the QB in SF.... and who will QB in NE, DEN, NO, and HOU? There is a lot of question marks past QB10 this year.
So my strategy this year is to try and get 2 top 10 guys, but I would be happy with Stafford as my QB2.
We have all seen who Fitzpatrick is. He gets hot and cold. WAS offense should be pretty balanced and their D is good, so I am not convinced that he has huge upside. I would prefer Fitz as my QB3....hope he gets hot early, and I can deal him. That said, I would prefer Fields or Lance as my QB3 over Fitzpatrick.This a great breakdown Illini…i have found that to be competitive in a SuperFlex league you can’t ‘neglect’ the 2nd QB by waiting too long.
Stafford and Matt Ryan are two that I wouldn’t mind outside of the top 10. We know that McVay likes his QB throwing the ball, and Atlanta will most likely be playing from behind or in shootouts, which should mean plenty of yards for MattyIce.
What are your thoughts on Fitzpatrick??
I would love Lance or Fields as my QB3 too…I’m hoping their cost come draft day isn’t too high.We have all seen who Fitzpatrick is. He gets hot and cold. WAS offense should be pretty balanced and their D is good, so I am not convinced that he has huge upside. I would prefer Fitz as my QB3....hope he gets hot early, and I can deal him. That said, I would prefer Fields or Lance as my QB3 over Fitzpatrick.
Well I like to guard against injury with another starter... Plus week 12 Mahomes and Murray have a bye... Its a play all but I just would like the insurance if I can get itIf you have Mahomes, Murray, and Wilson why do you need to trade for another starter? That is a perfect trio for a SF.
I 100% agree with mistake of grabbing a top QB and then resting on your laurels and waiting too long to take your 2nd. To me, that seems to diminish the advantage you gained in selecting an early QB, especially considering the potential huge drop off later in the draft.This a great breakdown Illini…i have found that to be competitive in a SuperFlex league you can’t ‘neglect’ the 2nd QB by waiting too long.
Stafford and Matt Ryan are two that I wouldn’t mind outside of the top 10. We know that McVay likes his QB throwing the ball, and Atlanta will most likely be playing from behind or in shootouts, which should mean plenty of yards for MattyIce.
What are your thoughts on Fitzpatrick??
How would you rank the rookie QB’s:I 100% agree with mistake of grabbing a top QB and then resting on your laurels and waiting too long to take your 2nd. To me, that seems to diminish the advantage you gained in selecting an early QB, especially considering the potential huge drop off later in the draft.
Definitely more nuances this year than what I can remember for 2QB leagues. Although you can't go wrong for picking two top 15 QB's and starting your draft that way in the first 4 rounds, it rarely plays out to plan when the whistle blows. Chances are, one of these rooks, vets on a new team, 2nd year players, etc will outperform and that extra player you took in the earlier rounds may make the difference for you.The QB landscape is pretty dicey this year for superflex leagues. The way I see it, once you get past a QB like Tannehill at around QB10, you have Hurts who has only done it for 4 or so games..... you have Stafford changing teams, Burrow struggling to come back from his ACL injury, can Tua improve, Lawrence is a rookie, Ryan lost Julio, Carr is mediocre, Cousins and Mayfield don't have big ceilings.....is father time catching up with Big Ben, do you trust Daniel Jones, Fitz and Darnold are on new teams...Z Wilson is a rookie......when will Wentz return...when will Fields become QB in CHI...when will Lance be the QB in SF.... and who will QB in NE, DEN, NO, and HOU? There is a lot of question marks past QB10 this year.
So my strategy this year is to try and get 2 top 10 guys, but I would be happy with Stafford as my QB2.
Not to make too much out of one preseason game, but for redraft, if all guys start as of week 1 I see it as Fields, Lance, Lawrence and Wilson.How would you rank the rookie QB’s:
Fields, Lawrence, Lance & Wilson
I haven’t put much thought into them yet. I’m not going to get too excited by Fields first outing versus backups, need to see more. Want to get a better feel for Lance’s chances for getting on the field, but would definitely jump on him as a third QB and wait for him to become the starter by mid season. Not really feeling Wilson, but not sure why yet. As of right now, the first 3 are a toss up for me.How would you rank the rookie QB’s:
Fields, Lawrence, Lance & Wilson
The thing we do know is the Lawrence is going to start the season, which does make him the ‘safest’ of the 4. He plays in a terrible defensive division, so he should have the opportunity to put up good numbers. He has a solid receiving corp with Chark, Shinault, and Jones…and throw Etienne into the mix too.Not to make too much out of one preseason game, but for redraft, if all guys start as of week 1 I see it as Fields, Lance, Lawrence and Wilson.
Fields has a less desirable supporting cast and coaching staff, but I think he throws the ball more than Lance and will have fewer ups and downs (more sustained drives). Lawrence is probably the safest pick of the bunch IMO but I think Fields and Lance will run more. Wilson is a wild card - just not feeling it yet with him.
Dynasty-wise - not sure yet.