Also agreeI think owning the 4 pick, which I do, just got a whole lot BETTER.
Funny how we all aee things differently
I would suggest that maybe you wait until after tonight to post your "doom and gloom" scenarios about rookie drafts.This draft disappoints when compared to last year where you had 5 FF players go in the first 10 picks to solid destinations. Or the average draft for that matter. When you're mulling over a quarterback or a 2nd or 3rd round running back at the 1.05, it's not a solid draft for FF.
agree - I wonder if he is trying to get the value down for picks he will be trading for. Doom and gloom seems prematureI would suggest that maybe you wait until after tonight to post your "doom and gloom" scenarios about rookie drafts.
He invested that same first in Brandon Cooks last year.Its a good fit for the Pats, obviously Bill doesn't give a rat's ### about our fantasy football concerns, but to invest in Michel at that point in the draft tells me Bill has a vision, as he usually does, that will provide some RB1 weeks, and that this guy will be an asset you'll be happy to have as depth when the time is right.
I'll stop the doom and gloom for now. But with respect to Michel, I know a lot of people really like him. This selection may have deflated them a little bit.I would suggest that maybe you wait until after tonight to post your "doom and gloom" scenarios about rookie drafts.
And Cooks was a solid fantasy asset last year, expecting anything bigger from a NE receiver wouldn't have meshed with history.He invested that same first in Brandon Cooks last year.
just tuck him away and hope he pays offThis selection may have deflated them a little bit.
I think that is exactly what is going on. So guess we are both contrarian. HahaI'll take the contrarian view here: I think picking Wynn and Michel in the first round and trading away Cooks possibly signals a shift towards a more I formation, run/play-action approach to take the pressure off of the Pats shaky defense. My guess is that BB will give Michel an awful lot of run as a rookie. He could end up being undervalued in drafts.
What does "swing hard" mean?Patriots seem to mostly whiff when they swing hard for RB and WR in the draft.
You are right, I thought they had taken more WRs earlier than they had but It's really just Dobson Rd2, Maroney Rd1, Chad Jackson Rd2,What does "swing hard" mean?
They've drafted exactly three running backs in the past 10 years. White, Ridley and Vereen. All have been relatively productive players but none of them have Michel's upside or explosiveness.
When you're mulling over a 2nd round RB at the 1.05 like.....last year?This draft disappoints when compared to last year where you had 5 FF players go in the first 10 picks to solid destinations. Or the average draft for that matter. When you're mulling over a quarterback or a 2nd or 3rd round running back at the 1.05, it's not a solid draft for FF.
Who are the sneaky teams that could take Chubb and Guice that would be worst case for fantasy?Guice and Chubb to Indy and TB this evening is almost too obvious. Would make for a pretty clean top 5 depends on landing spots I guess of a few othe players.
Cleveland has 2 of the first 3 picks. Considering reports that Cleveland was looking at Penny, I think it's very possible one of them is going to the Browns.Guice and Chubb to Indy and TB this evening is almost too obvious. Would make for a pretty clean top 5 depends on landing spots I guess of a few othe players.
Unless you are in a 2QB league, I hope to goodness nobody is seriously contemplating a QB at 1.05. If so, you are doing it wrong.When you're mulling over a 2nd round RB at the 1.05 like.....last year?
At least for 2018 (not long term):Who are the sneaky teams that could take Chubb and Guice that would be worst case for fantasy?
Cleveland, Miami, San Diego, Carolina.Who are the sneaky teams that could take Chubb and Guice that would be worst case for fantasy?
Raiders, Miami, GB are a few teams that could take one of those guys and have crowded backfields limiting their value for this season.Who are the sneaky teams that could take Chubb and Guice that would be worst case for fantasy?
Denver is a good situation imo, despite owning Booker in two leagues. If Denver takes one in Round 2, I think he's in a bell-cowish role.At least for 2018 (not long term):
Denver
Oakland
Green Bay
Yeah, that's true. I should have chosen better words. But you don't really think the dyno first round of this year compares to last.When you're mulling over a 2nd round RB at the 1.05 like.....last year?
I hope so. I'd love to break my "don't own Denver RB" rule. Just when I think I have it figured out it's all messy. But yes, I think long term it's a great scenario. Maybe short term one of them would take the reins and never look back. But I think it's "less good" than WAS/IND/TBDenver is a good situation imo, despite owning Booker in two leagues. If Denver takes one in Round 2, I think he's in a bell-cowish role.
Good calls. I really think Cleveland takes Guice with their next pick. Carolina has to get a bigger back in the draft.Cleveland, Miami, San Diego, Carolina.
Cleveland and Carolina probably the most likely "bad" spots.
Regardless, seems a lot more likely that they'll end up in a good spot with Indy, Tampa, Denver, Detroit, Washington all coming up on the clock soon (some of them multiple times).
PhiliWho are the sneaky teams that could take Chubb and Guice that would be worst case for fantasy?
Detroit could/should be taking a RB as well.If Chubb, Jones, and Guice land in any combo of Tampa, Indy, and Washington, I’m not sure how anyone can say this draft is disappointing for RBs.
I feel like they aren't going to. I would be inclined to think that if Ragnow is as good as they think and if the OL is healthy next year, the improved blocking will allow Ameer, Theo and Blount to be an effective trio.Detroit could/should be taking a RB as well.
Possibly true. Thought perhaps Kerryon Johnson in 3rd. More pressing needs, I suppose.I feel like they aren't going to. I would be inclined to think that if Ragnow is as good as they think and if the OL is healthy next year, the improved blocking will allow Ameer, Theo and Blount to be an effective trio.
Jeff Ratcliffe✔@JeffRatcliffe
Sony Michel 2018 projection:
212 carries for 900 yards and 7 TDs
27 catches for 228 and 1 TD
8:12 AM - Apr 27, 2018
Michel will be good but the bar is high. Lewis was exceptional when healthy and always produced. The only issue ever with Lewis was health.I am viewing Michel as a better Dion Lewis. And that is really good. Not best RB in the league ever but still very good RB1/2 on any given week.
Staying Pats: New England hung out at No. 23 and 31. They didn't move up or down. They got their left tackle in Isaiah Wynn, who's a perfect fit their scheme. He fits what Pats offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia looks for. Plus, the Patriots got, maybe after Saquon Barkley, the most explosive back in the draft in Georgia's Sony Michel. I don't think Michel's quite as advanced in the passing game, but he's got an opportunity with Tom Brady in that offense to be special early.
Not sure why they go there that early with them having Duke and investing in Hyde. They need to reinvest in their line and in their defense before they need an early round RB. They could use some depth RB's but this draft has some guys that will be available later that would be excellent for them to take a shot at.gianmarco said:Cleveland has 2 of the first 3 picks. Considering reports that Cleveland was looking at Penny, I think it's very possible one of them is going to the Browns.
If Guice or Chubb aren’t available at 52 I can definitely see Johnson or Freeman in the 3rd. I can guarantee you they are taking a RB with one of these two picks...unless there is nothing left in the third rd.ffweasel said:Possibly true. Thought perhaps Kerryon Johnson in 3rd. More pressing needs, I suppose.
Not sure why they go there that early with them having Duke and investing in Hyde. They need to reinvest in their line and in their defense before they need an early round RB. They could use some depth RB's but this draft has some guys that will be available later that would be excellent for them to take a shot at.