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Let's talk about mind over matter and the power of positive thinking (1 Viewer)

CrossEyed2

CrossEyed2

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So I've been reading a number of books by people like Joseph Murphy, Michael Singer, Joe Dispenza, and others. I find this topic fascinating.

As you may know, I have a history in religion, specifically as a Christian pastor. Almost all faith communities teach some type of prayer practice. And almost all faith communities can point to healings and "miracles" that are credited to faith and prayer.

But what if the "miracles" and healing are due to the genuine belief of the person being healed or receiving the "miracle" and have absolutely nothing to do with the object of that faith? We've all heard about the placebo effect. Some people can take a completely inert substance, but if they believe that is a healing substance it relieves whatever ailment that they are dealing with.

Have any of you read anything by any of these authors or other authors on this topic? Is there more to mind over matter than most of us have been led to believe? Are some people successful primarily because they are fully convinced that they will be successful? Is there truly power in positive thinking?

I'd love to hear your thoughts.

 
CrossEyed2 said:
What makes you think that human psychology and the subconscious mind are unscientific?
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That’s a fine point and I agree that this can be scientific.  You seem to be focused on medical conditions from the OP. I guess my point is regardless of maintaining a positive attitude, it is important to follow the advice of medical professionals. Make sure to make the power of positive thinking an AND, not an OR.

 
Subjective, "How do you feel" aspects of health?  Lots of power.

Objective, "Can you fix actual physical problems" aspects?  Not so much.

 
CrossEyed2 said:
jhib said:
Subjective, "How do you feel" aspects of health?  Lots of power.

Objective, "Can you fix actual physical problems" aspects?  Not so much.
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This is demonstrably false. There are myriads of documented cases of people being healed with no medical explanation whatsoever.
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Even if your second sentence is true (and I am in no way conceding that), it doesn't at all lead to my post being false.

 
jhib said:
Even if your second sentence is true (and I am in no way conceding that), it doesn't at all lead to my post being false.
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If you won't concede to the second sentence as being true, it just means that you haven't investigated the subject much, if at all.

 
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fatness said:
That was a result of surgery.
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I already knew that I had only a fifty-fifty chance of surviving the surgery. ... Then, at an especially bleak moment, the door flew open and in hurried a squat fellow with a blue scrub hat and a yellow surgical gown and glasses, speaking in a Russian accent." The man announced that he was a proctologist and was going to perform a rectal exam on Reeve. It was Robin Williams, reprising his character from the film Nine Months. Reeve wrote: "For the first time since the accident, I laughed. My old friend had helped me know that somehow I was going to be okay."[83]

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