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Weekly Waiver Wire Pick Ups - **CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK** Week 17 starts on Page 30 (2 Viewers)
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Hurl Bruce
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I have Gibson and am looking to pick up Patterson. I can't figure out if I drop R Stevenson or Jamal Williams. I have Damien Harris, which is why I am balking on dropping RS. Who would you drop?
Williams easily….Harris gets banged up NE has great schedule Stephenson is a bell cow type guy and caught 3-39 against Dallas- even ran a WR route out of backfield
And he’s your handcuff!
titusbramble
Footballguy
@Sigmund Bloom Seems as good a place as any to feed back, but giving an indication on downgrades as to what level of pick up you would drop them for is huge (edit - in the waiver wire report if not obvious). Fills in a huge void in that any waiver pickup usually has a corresponding cut, and a lot of the time it's not obvious at all, especially after 2-3 weeks when a lot of the early mid-late round busts have already been settled.
If I didn't have so many pieces of Tyler Boyd and Miles Sanders I probably don't make this post
If I didn't have so many pieces of Tyler Boyd and Miles Sanders I probably don't make this post
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Bloom provided this type of info in his offensive upgrades/downgrades column this week.
For example, T. Boyd was a downgrade and a potential drop if you can pick up somebody he lists as worth 10+ of your wallet.
titusbramble
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Yep, I listened to the waiver show earlier and he was wanting to know if people found the addition useful, and it certainly is
Chaka
Footballguy
Do you ever start him? Is he covering a bye for you that a replacement won't?
Is it a draft capital thing that is holding you back?
Have started him yes. Prior to Higgins getting back he did have a big PPR game.
I"m not convinced he's completely dead in this offense. This week will be telling BALT is tougher on outside receivers and somewhat poor vs. the slot.
Right now I almost have to start Boyd due to bye weeks (ekeler, Diggs) and injuries. Debating rolling with R. Stevenson though instead since I'm a huge underdog.
Don't see anything better on the wire (i.e. Lazard, DPJs, C. Samuel, D. Slayton). Considering that I'm a huge underdog this week I may sacrifice this week entirely. That could mean dropping Boyd for a D next week (like SF @CHI or Cinci @NYJ).
Regardless, another dud and he's gone.
TampaMike19
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Starting this week. Jets are getting absolutely blasted by pass catching backs and short- dump offs/ screens. Wouldn't be surprised of another 13-15 pt game
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TampaMike19
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The broncos are legit giving up almost 25 YPR the last 3 weeks to the WR position. That's insane.
That plays into DPJ's role pretty amazingly. It's a somewhat confident start IMO
That plays into DPJ's role pretty amazingly. It's a somewhat confident start IMO
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Denvers D was good the first three weeks against garbage opponents. Now they are beat up and not very good.
Chaka
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Yes, but what kind of opponent is the Cleveland offense without Mayfield, Chubb, Hunt and possibly OBJ and maybe some starting O linemen to boot?
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Chaka
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Cleveland should be a favorite IMO because their defense is still dangerous and Keenum probably can do just enough to win with that kind of help.
TampaMike19
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Cleveland is now a -1 favorite...so it is inching closer each passing hour
They opened at -4.5 but the public may be over-reacting here
They opened at -4.5 but the public may be over-reacting here
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Golden Gopher
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Yeah, it's not really revenge when you're about to get beat by 20 points.BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
themeistersinger
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Bumpthemeistersinger said:
Cowboysfan8
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Toney
Jeudy
Bateman
Jeudy
Bateman
JohnnyU
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Absolutely Nothing
Footballguy
Can you hold him through byes? Obviously the talent is there, and someone else will snap him up to hold as a lottery ticket if you don't, but I could see letting him dangle as a trap for another team if you have short benches and don't believe he comes back hot.
I could. I'm far enough down waivers to not likely get him though (8th) -- probably will try though sitting at 2-4
Absolutely Nothing
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Might as well then. Even easier decision if your league has IR slots you can free up; I'm not going out of my way to trade for him, but picking up MT off the wire? Easy decision there.
themeistersinger
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I heard "still a few more weeks" before he is back. If you're just dropping somebody that stinks any way then I'd pick him up.
Chaka
Footballguy
I have Thomas and am considering dropping for Bateman.
New Orleans is not throwing a ton of passes ATM, 24/game, which I know will likely trend up but I think am changing my expectations for when Thomas returns. I just don't think he is going be the target sponge we are all used to.
Maybe he ends up at around 8 targets/game, which is good of course but I think that is his high end and could end up in the 6-7 range. And there are not going to be as many high quality Drew Brees type targets with Jameis under center so I expect a drop in catch % as well.
Maybe I'm overthinking this. Not sure.
Chaka
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JohnnyU
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I guess it depends on how big your league is. I just can't imagine he has more potential than Michael Thomas.
He doesn't but that's not what you said.
I would drop Bateman for Thomas is different that Bateman should not be rostered
Chaka
Footballguy
I understand having concern about Baltimore, being a low volume passing offense supporting a 3rd receiving option. It's unlikely.
But there isn't a lower volume passing offense than New Orleans and they haven't been able to support even one receiving option.
NO has 60.8% completions for 169.4 yards/game for 7.5 y/a
Baltimore completes 67.5% of their passes for 266.5 y/g with an 8.7 y/a.
Michael Thomas returning is sure to help every passing metric for New Orleans but I don't think anyone can say with confidence that after an entire off-season with a foot injury, no OTAs, no TC, no practice yet, highly unlikely to be in football shape that he will be magic football relevant this season.
And how do we define relevant? Stud #1 alpha WR? Weekly flex option with upside?
How soon could he possibly be fantasy relevant? He's a "few weeks" out now. Do we hope that by week 10 he's practicing?
I can see that but it still seems like we are gambling on a lot of things going right in his return to a Drew Breesless offense.
But there isn't a lower volume passing offense than New Orleans and they haven't been able to support even one receiving option.
NO has 60.8% completions for 169.4 yards/game for 7.5 y/a
Baltimore completes 67.5% of their passes for 266.5 y/g with an 8.7 y/a.
Michael Thomas returning is sure to help every passing metric for New Orleans but I don't think anyone can say with confidence that after an entire off-season with a foot injury, no OTAs, no TC, no practice yet, highly unlikely to be in football shape that he will be magic football relevant this season.
And how do we define relevant? Stud #1 alpha WR? Weekly flex option with upside?
How soon could he possibly be fantasy relevant? He's a "few weeks" out now. Do we hope that by week 10 he's practicing?
I can see that but it still seems like we are gambling on a lot of things going right in his return to a Drew Breesless offense.
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Its Michael Thomas. 10 times out of 10 do you pick him over the 3rd passing option on the Ravens who also happens to be a rookie PLUS they have their bye next week.
Johnny Utah #9
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I see the logic in thinking Thomas won’t be returning to the same role we are all used to, but I still wouldn’t ever consider dropping him for Bateman.
For as low volume a passing team as NO is, MT will at least we walking into the top role with no competition for targets. Bateman is at best the WR3 on a team that prefers to run (if their defense allows, which hasn’t always been the case this season).
ignatiusjreilly
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I'm seeing Dawson Knox get dropped in multiple leagues because of his injury + byepocalypse. In one league I have a claim in on him. In another we have open waivers so I could pick him up right now. The issue is that I already have Kittle (no IR slot) and I'm starting RSJ this week, so I'd have to drop Javonte and then hope that Knox is back by Week 8, especially because if Logan Thomas is also back that means RSJ is turning into a pumpkin.
Ok sure I might have gone overboard but Bateman is not rostered in any of my 4 12 team leagues.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He’s rostered in all my dynasty leagues. Did you mention all your leagues being redraft?
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Knox is being dropped for a reason - it's a few to several week injury and who can afford to hold him that long unless you have an open IR spot. He has a broken hand and generally it would take 6 weeks for proper healing, but they may up it to 4 weeks. I dropped for H Henry because my other TE is Gronk and who knows about him this week. Picked up Knox on week 3 before he really blew up and has been awesome. After bye week apocalypse I may see if I can fit him back into an IR spot. Umm... nope K Hunt will sit there for a month or so. He's just not ready to be picked up unless someone has space somewhere.
JohnnyU
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JohnnyU
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Interesting. I hadn't heard that. I had kind of assumed he would only have to miss a week or two. But now that I think of it I realize that may have been my own wishcasting.
Do you have any links discussing his timeline? If he's not going to be back before Kittle I probably won't waste my time on him.
Chaka
Footballguy
I only play in one league and it's redraft.
There is absolutely an argument for rostering Bateman in redraft.
People we're going nuts over Toney before his big game. WRs emerge much sooner in today's NFL. No reason Bateman can't prove better than Marquise Brown and also no reason that Lamar Jackson can't sustain three receiving threats, particularly when he doesn't have one in the backfield.
Lamar is a 68% passer, the only think holding him back is the play calling and that can change.
Is Bateman worth rostering over Michael Thomas? Probably not but I don't think it is the clear mortal lock decision that many are making it out to be.
There is absolutely an argument for rostering Bateman in redraft.
People we're going nuts over Toney before his big game. WRs emerge much sooner in today's NFL. No reason Bateman can't prove better than Marquise Brown and also no reason that Lamar Jackson can't sustain three receiving threats, particularly when he doesn't have one in the backfield.
Lamar is a 68% passer, the only think holding him back is the play calling and that can change.
Is Bateman worth rostering over Michael Thomas? Probably not but I don't think it is the clear mortal lock decision that many are making it out to be.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
No reason to get personal. I do know that this board has had a huge transition to dynasty leagues starting about 7 to 10 years ago. I’m sure there are still plenty of re-drafters that frequent this board, but I think it is closer than you think. I started a poll.
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