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My positional rankings from week 6 onward (1 Viewer)

travdogg

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QB:
1. Josh Allen(1)
2. Kyler Murray(2)
3. Lamar Jackson(3)
4. Patrick Mahomes(4)
5. Tom Brady(5)
6. Jalen Hurts(6)
7. Justin Herbert(7)
8. Dak Prescott(8)
9. Aaron Rodgers(9)
10. Matthew Stafford(11)
11. Sam Darnold(12)
12. Ryan Tannehill(13)
13. Joe Burrow(14)
14. Trey Lance(NR)
15. Daniel Jones(15)
Dropped out: Russell Wilson, I'll slot him 10th upon his return.

 
RB:
1. Christian McCaffrey(1)
2. Derrick Henry(2)
3. Austin Ekeler(11) that was the week I needed to see from him
4. Dalvin Cook(3)
5. Ezekiel Elliott(5)
6. Aaron Jones(6)
7. D'Andre Swift(7)
8. Najee Harris(8)
9. Alvin Kamara(9)
10. Saquon Barkley(4) injury hedge, back in week 7, means back in top-5.
11. Nick Chubb(10)
12. Joe Mixon(12)
13. James Robinson(16)
14. Darrell Henderson(13)
15. Jonathan Taylor(15)
16. Kareem Hunt(19)
17. Antonio Gibson(14)
18. Chris Carson(18)
19. Damien Harris(20)
20. Josh Jacobs(17) bit of a Gruden hedge, could be higher if Olsen likes him just as much
21. Chase Edmonds(23)
22. Leonard Fournette(27)
23. Zack Moss(28)
24. Damien Williams(21)
25. Darrell Williams(NR)
26. Elijah Mitchell(24)
27. Mike Davis(25)
28. Cordarrelle Patterson(26), would be 27 at WR, still don't trust him, YMMV
29. Miles Sanders(NR)
30. Nyheim Hines(29)
Dropped out: Clyde Edwards-Helaire(He's a 1-1 swap with Williams in my opinion) Latavius Murray

 
WR:
1. Davante Adams(1)
2. Tyreek Hill(2)
3. Stefon Diggs(3)
4. Justin Jefferson(4)
5. DJ Moore(5)
6. Cooper Kupp(6)
7. Calvin Ridley(7)
8. DeAndre Hopkins(8)
9. Terry McLaurin(11)
10. Keenan Allen(13)
11. Deebo Samuel(15)
12. Mike Williams(21)
13. DK Metcalf(9)
14. AJ Brown(10)
15. CeeDee Lamb(12)
16. Mike Evans(16)
17. Amari Cooper(14)
18. Chris Godwin(19)
19. Diontae Johnson(20)
20. Ja'Marr Chase(29)
21. Adam Thielen(17)
22. Robert Woods(25)
23. Tyler Lockett(18)
24. Brandin Cooks(24)
25. DeVonta Smith(30)
26. Hollywood Brown(23) perfect game script against team with no CBs, Bateman incoming
27. Odell Beckham(26)
28. Courtland Sutton(27)
29. Tee Higgins(28)
30. Chase Claypool(NR)
31. Sterling Shepard(31)
32. Emmanuel Sanders(NR)
33. Antonio Brown(37)
34. Kadarius Toney(NR)
35. Julio Jones(32)
36. Kenny Golladay(22)
37. Marvin Jones(33)
38. Laviska Shenault(34)
39. Corey Davis(35)
40. Tyler Boyd(36)
Dropped out: Jaylen Waddle, Michael Pittman, Jakobi Meyers

 
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1. Travis Kelce(1)
2. Darren Waller(2) huge dropoff after Kelce, 2-6 could be in any order.
3. George Kittle(3) too valuable a difference maker to move down even with 2 more missed games. YMMV
4. Mark Andrews(4)
5. TJ Hockenson(5)
6. Kyle Pitts(7)
7. Logan Thomas(6) slots right back in as WFT's #2 target the second he's back
8. Noah Fant(8)
9. Mike Gesicki(9)
10. Rob Gronkowski(10)
11. Dawson Knox(12)
12. Tyler Higbee(11)
13. Dallas Goedert(14)
14. Hunter Henry(NR)
15. Jared Cook(NR)
Dropped out: Robert Tonyan, Dalton Schultz(only 1 more game without Gallup)

 
Another big game from Antonio Brown and it might be time to start thinking about him in the top 15.

Great stuff as usual, and I'm kind of pumped to see Zack Moss climbing!

 
QB:
1. Josh Allen(1)
2. Kyler Murray(2)
3. Lamar Jackson(3)
4. Patrick Mahomes(4)
5. Tom Brady(5)
6. Jalen Hurts(6)
7. Justin Herbert(7)
8. Dak Prescott(8)
9. Aaron Rodgers(9)
10. Matthew Stafford(11)
11. Sam Darnold(12)
12. Ryan Tannehill(13)
13. Joe Burrow(14)
14. Trey Lance(NR)
15. Daniel Jones(15)
Dropped out: Russell Wilson, I'll slot him 10th upon his return.
 I think I have Stafford ahead of Rodgers but that's a minor quibble. 

 
RB:
1. Christian McCaffrey(1)
2. Derrick Henry(2)
3. Austin Ekeler(11) that was the week I needed to see from him
4. Dalvin Cook(3)
5. Ezekiel Elliott(5)
6. Aaron Jones(6)
7. D'Andre Swift(7)
8. Najee Harris(8)
9. Alvin Kamara(9)
10. Saquon Barkley(4) injury hedge, back in week 7, means back in top-5.
11. Nick Chubb(10)
12. Joe Mixon(12)
13. James Robinson(16)
14. Darrell Henderson(13)
15. Jonathan Taylor(15)
16. Kareem Hunt(19)
17. Antonio Gibson(14)
18. Chris Carson(18)
19. Damien Harris(20)
20. Josh Jacobs(17) bit of a Gruden hedge, could be higher if Olsen likes him just as much
21. Chase Edmonds(23)
22. Leonard Fournette(27)
23. Zack Moss(28)
24. Damien Williams(21)
25. Darrell Williams(NR)
26. Elijah Mitchell(24)
27. Mike Davis(25)
28. Cordarrelle Patterson(26), would be 27 at WR, still don't trust him, YMMV
29. Miles Sanders(NR)
30. Nyheim Hines(29)
Dropped out: Clyde Edwards-Helaire(He's a 1-1 swap with Williams in my opinion) Latavius Murray
I have Henry ahead of CMc, think Mixon and Kamara are a bit high. I like Gibson more than both.  The Patterson ranking is ridiculous though. He should be at worst 19. How can you rank Darrel Williams and Mike Davis and Damien Harris ahead of him? 

 
Another big game from Antonio Brown and it might be time to start thinking about him in the top 15.

Great stuff as usual, and I'm kind of pumped to see Zack Moss climbing!
It'd be tough to move Brown much higher unless Evans or Godwin suffer an injury. Brown is still the #3 WR there. That said, if that scenario does happen, 15 might be Brown's(and the other non-injured WR's) floor.

I've been driving the Moss bandwagon since Utah, so I'm happy to see him being used over Singletary which should have been happening all along in my opinion. Now Moss just needs to see consistent workloads, and he's top-20 bound.

 
 I think I have Stafford ahead of Rodgers but that's a minor quibble. 
I can't help but feel like the second I have a 2 digit number attached to Rodgers, he's gonna have a 5-TD game. I have no problem with Stafford above him, I'm just not going to do it until its obvious. I do trust Rodgers a bit more too.

I have Henry ahead of CMc, think Mixon and Kamara are a bit high. I like Gibson more than both.  The Patterson ranking is ridiculous though. He should be at worst 19. How can you rank Darrel Williams and Mike Davis and Damien Harris ahead of him? 
I refuse to believe Patterson's production is sustainable without a drastic change in usage. If he starts playing more than Mike Davis, that's when I'll move him up, because with even a small variance in TD luck, he's a flex play level player. I'm fine putting him ahead of Davis if you want, but I think Harris(when they aren't playing TB) and Williams have much higher touch floors. I'm also likely just high on Harris.

I'd like to have Kamara lower, but I don't really trust anybody below him more than him. I almost put Mixon higher, I'm not worried about his pass game usage as much as some are, and I'm not worried about Perine at all. Mixon's health is the only thing keeping him out of the top-10. Its possible he'll move up next week, if he shows himself to be healthier. 

Gibson is hard to rank higher, because A) McKissic hasn't gone away B) Gibson is likely going to be playing through injury for the next several weeks. 

I can see the argument for Henry at #1, I just think CMC's receiving is such an edge, and he's basically bust proof, where as Henry can sometimes be game scripted out a bit. I also am anticipating the Titans scaling back his workload going forward, as he's on pace for an insane 483 carries and 48 catches, which is 531 touches. In relation to that, I'm probably slightly higher on Tannehill/AJ than most right now. 

I don't care how talented Kittle is, I prefer Andrews and Pitts. 
If I were 5-0 or 4-1 I think I'd prefer Kittle, if I needed wins now I might prefer Andrews or Pitts. 

To be fair, Andrews hadn't had a game over 5 catches until last night, which was a perfect gamescript against a secondary that ran out of guys. He(and Hollywood) also needed Lamar to throw for over 400 yards, which is not likely to be repeated, maybe ever again. Jackson only had 3 300 yard games in his career going in.

Waller and especially Hockenson have been quieter the last couple games, but can see a case for 2nd for either of them too. Hockenson is probably the best buy-low in fantasy in my opinion right now. Its also possible Waller sees fewer balls with Gruden gone, as Gruden was his biggest fan, and basically his best move as Raiders HC. 

Full disclosure, if Pitts monster game had come with Ridley in the lineup, and/or not against the Jets, I might have had him at 2. 2-6 is basically a rank them how you feel, there is no wrong answer area to me, its very nebulous. 

 
Jamarr Chase still feels about 5 spots too low, even with the big move up from last week
He's a tougher guy to rank, because Higgins seemed eased in a little, and Mixon was barely used. Those likely won't be the case starting this week. Its certainly possible Chase stays on the rise, but there are a lot of mouths to feed there. 

 
RE: Patterson, his usage is fine. Swift has 35 targets and 52 carries. Patterson has 31 targets and 41 carries. Hunt has 21 targets and 55 carries. The key point is that they are elusive players being given the ball in opportunistic situations. Patterson has 468 yards from scrimmage. That is more than Justin Jefferson, Jamarr Chase, DJ Moore...100 yards more than Keenan Allen. 

 
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I’m still not understanding the love for Damien Harris. His weekly rankings have been 28, 16, 56, 50, and 35. He’s ranked 39th so far . . . but is ranked 19th here. He’s had fumbling issues and has also been dinged up. What do you see changing for the better?

 
Great stuff travdogg.

Glad to see that I can influence you AGAIN......this time on Ekeler.

One question this time......surprised that you have Darnold at 12 after the "NY Jet" Darnold came back to life last week.  I assuming you think CMC will help Darnold a lot?

 
I’m still not understanding the love for Damien Harris. His weekly rankings have been 28, 16, 56, 50, and 35. He’s ranked 39th so far . . . but is ranked 19th here. He’s had fumbling issues and has also been dinged up. What do you see changing for the better?
Yeah this is a baffling ranking to me. I love that he put it out there but this feels like it is either put there to trigger a response or because he is stuck on some prior notions. 

 
WR:
1. Davante Adams(1)
2. Tyreek Hill(2)
3. Stefon Diggs(3)
4. Justin Jefferson(4)
5. DJ Moore(5)
6. Cooper Kupp(6)
7. Calvin Ridley(7)
8. DeAndre Hopkins(8)
9. Terry McLaurin(11)
10. Keenan Allen(13)
11. Deebo Samuel(15)
12. Mike Williams(21)
13. DK Metcalf(9)
14. AJ Brown(10)
15. CeeDee Lamb(12)
16. Mike Evans(16)
17. Amari Cooper(14)
18. Chris Godwin(19)
19. Diontae Johnson(20)
20. Ja'Marr Chase(29)
21. Adam Thielen(17)
22. Robert Woods(25)
23. Tyler Lockett(18)
24. Brandin Cooks(24)
25. DeVonta Smith(30)
26. Hollywood Brown(23) perfect game script against team with no CBs, Bateman incoming
27. Odell Beckham(26)
28. Courtland Sutton(27)
29. Tee Higgins(28)
30. Chase Claypool(NR)
31. Sterling Shepard(31)
32. Emmanuel Sanders(NR)
33. Antonio Brown(37)
34. Kadarius Toney(NR)
35. Julio Jones(32)
36. Kenny Golladay(22)
37. Marvin Jones(33)
38. Laviska Shenault(34)
39. Corey Davis(35)
40. Tyler Boyd(36)
Dropped out: Jaylen Waddle, Michael Pittman, Jakobi Meyers


Feel like Michael Thomas should be on here somewhere.

 
I’m still not understanding the love for Damien Harris. His weekly rankings have been 28, 16, 56, 50, and 35. He’s ranked 39th so far . . . but is ranked 19th here. He’s had fumbling issues and has also been dinged up. What do you see changing for the better?
I'll be the first to admit he's very boom/bust and is game script dependent. However, he's a very talented player, on a team that wants to be run first, and is both the GL RB, and doesn't cede a lot of carries to backups. 

NO and TB are the 2 best run defenses in the NFL, its no surprise he didn't do well against them, and that NE didn't even try to run in either game. They had a more than 3/1 pass run ratio against NO, and a 6/1 pass run ratio against TB. Harris was a quality start the other 3 games, and was a very fluky play from having 8 more points this week. 

In any game against a non elite run D, he's been an RB2 in my eyes. I don't see that changing, unless the injury is way worse than we've been led to believe, or the fumbles get way out of hand. I also think NE's offense is only going to move the ball better as the season goes on, increasing Harris' TD potential.

Yeah this is a baffling ranking to me. I love that he put it out there but this feels like it is either put there to trigger a response or because he is stuck on some prior notions. 
I can promise I'll never try to trigger a response, I hate when people do that. I may be giving too much weight to the non NO/TB games, but I do believe those are a better indicator of what to expect than the overall production to date.

 
Great stuff travdogg.

Glad to see that I can influence you AGAIN......this time on Ekeler.

One question this time......surprised that you have Darnold at 12 after the "NY Jet" Darnold came back to life last week.  I assuming you think CMC will help Darnold a lot?
I said I really wanted to see Ekeler do it against a good team, and he did and then some, and then some more. 

I think the rushing is for real in Darnold's case, and that puts him ahead of guys like Burrow, Cousins, and Carr(who would have been next up) who don't really do that. I also do believe that CMC has been very missed, and would have extended some drives, and perhaps not made Darnold force some throws that he did last week. I'm not sure Darnold is any better than he was as a Jet, but I think his coaching staff and supporting cast is a ton better. 

 
Feel like Michael Thomas should be on here somewhere.
I thought about him(and Jeudy too) but I haven't seen anything to suggest he's even going to be ready in week 7. Haven't heard a thing other than he had COVID. Also, this seems like a much different offense this year, and while Thomas played well with Teddy and Hill when Brees missed time, that was still in the Brees offense so to speak. I'm not sure Payton is running that anymore. This seems more like a Bill Parcells offense so far.

I'm not confident Thomas' prior volume will be there, I'm not certain he'll be the same WR, and I'm not sure he's even healthy. I'll change my tune if he comes back and shows something, but honestly beyond Kamara(and I'd probably be trying to sell him if I had him) I'm not sure I wan anybody on this team.

 
My conundrum is that tier of RBs like Jamaal Williams, AJ Dillon, and leading into Eli Mitchell.

Mitchell with more snaps with youth  behind him and the unknown of Jeff Wilson (well and his head coach)

I have Williams (and Swift).  Not sure he has the most value but with having Swift gives me piece of mind.

Dillon’s role appears to be increasing.  And not sure I see that changing too much as I think they want to keep Jones fresh all year and into the playoffs.

 
Great stuff—but you are waaaay too low on Hollywood brown in my opinion. He also had a very flukey game where he dropped 3 tds.  To rank him as a wr3 (in 12 team leagues) the rest of the way is borderline laughable imo.  

 
I also hate to say it, but I think Ridley is too high. I know the targets are good, but every other warning sign is flashing for me. I think he has a nice safe floor but he's not making plays and seems scared to death of contact. There are probably 15 WRs I would prefer right now. 

 
I'm not a fan of Thielen. I'd have him behind Pittman. 
I still think Thielen is a TD machine, and is in a passing offense that still only runs through 2 guys. 

I know its not what any Pittman owner wants to hear, but I'm very nervous about the return of TY Hilton. Not that Hilton is going to come in and be the Hilton of old, but that he's going to be a big part of the offense, as likely the #3 option after Taylor and Pittman. With how much Indy spreads it around in general at every position(even with Taylor) I think Pittman is a pretty good sell high right now, despite great target and air yards numbers. 

I agree, I think we are clearly witnessing the steep decline of Thielen. 
I think he's clearly the #2 at this point, but I can't help but feel this is a little similar to Robert Woods a couple weeks ago. 

 
My conundrum is that tier of RBs like Jamaal Williams, AJ Dillon, and leading into Eli Mitchell.

Mitchell with more snaps with youth  behind him and the unknown of Jeff Wilson (well and his head coach)

I have Williams (and Swift).  Not sure he has the most value but with having Swift gives me piece of mind.

Dillon’s role appears to be increasing.  And not sure I see that changing too much as I think they want to keep Jones fresh all year and into the playoffs.
I might have my head in the sand a bit here, but I think Dillon's increasing role has had more to do with Jones being a bit banged up, than any change in how much they want to use Jones. Dillon is clearly the least valuable RB of those 3 you mentioned in my opinion, and is basically just a stash.

I like Mitchell a lot. I've never liked Trey Sermon going back to OSU. Jeff Wilson could potentially be a threat, but he's typically been the last man standing, more than a guy Shanahan really thinks highly of. 

Williams is a  decent flex guy, who has a lot of upside if something happens to Swift. With you having Swift he takes on increased value for you.

I'd rate them: Mitchell>Williams>>Dillon.

 
Great stuff—but you are waaaay too low on Hollywood brown in my opinion. He also had a very flukey game where he dropped 3 tds.  To rank him as a wr3 (in 12 team leagues) the rest of the way is borderline laughable imo.  
I think he's a guy who is going to be seeing a lot less volume going forward. I don't think 400 yard(or even 300 yard) days are going to become the norm for Jackson. I think Andrews is still the #1 pass catcher on the team, I think Bateman will be a lot more involved than Watkins was(and Watkins will still see some passes) and perhaps most of all, I think the Ravens will get their defense and running games figured out as the season goes on. 

All of that adds up to me thinking Brown is a good sell high right now. 

I also hate to say it, but I think Ridley is too high. I know the targets are good, but every other warning sign is flashing for me. I think he has a nice safe floor but he's not making plays and seems scared to death of contact. There are probably 15 WRs I would prefer right now. 
Ridley is the exact player I'd be looking to try to trade Brown for. I think Ridley is going to explode coming out of the bye week. Its not just the targets for me, its the type of targets, and what the offense looks like around him.

Arthur Smith seems to me like he took a few weeks, but now knows what to do with his offense. I think there was some initial issues with him and how best to utilize their personnel. Matt Ryan has looked much improved after a rough start(Ryan himself is on the cusp of the top-15 to me) and has been throwing deep, after being very dink and dunk to begin the season. 

Ridley himself was very close to a huge game against Washington but just missed on several plays. Its very possible he'd have been right there with Pitts having 100+ and a score against the Jets, if he'd played. 

This another 2 man passing game in my opinion, and Ryan seems to be heating up. Ridley is the premier WR buy-low to me, and this is likely the last chance week in my opinion.

I think Ridley, Mixon, Hockenson, and AJ Brown are the buy low players I'd be looking to acquire this week. Maybe Barkley too, if his owners are just tired of being patient with his health. Kittle probably falls under a similar umbrella as Barkley too.

 
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travdogg said:
I might have my head in the sand a bit here, but I think Dillon's increasing role has had more to do with Jones being a bit banged up, than any change in how much they want to use Jones. Dillon is clearly the least valuable RB of those 3 you mentioned in my opinion, and is basically just a stash.

I like Mitchell a lot. I've never liked Trey Sermon going back to OSU. Jeff Wilson could potentially be a threat, but he's typically been the last man standing, more than a guy Shanahan really thinks highly of. 

Williams is a  decent flex guy, who has a lot of upside if something happens to Swift. With you having Swift he takes on increased value for you.

I'd rate them: Mitchell>Williams>>Dillon.
Feeling similar on ranking even if I disagree with your stance on Dillon.  I don't think this is going away with Dillon getting touches.  Not that I am worried about my other league where I have Jones.  He is still the lead guy.  But I very much believe they want to keep him fresh all year (with the extra game) and into the playoffs.  And they seem to be trusting Dillon more and more now in his 2nd year.  Getting that similar work that used to annoy people when Jamaal got them in Green Bay.

If I didn't have Swift...I think Williams and Dillon are about equally valuable.  And similar to this situation...if I had Jones rather than Swift, Id value Dillon higher than Williams.

 
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I think he's a guy who is going to be seeing a lot less volume going forward. I don't think 400 yard(or even 300 yard) days are going to become the norm for Jackson. I think Andrews is still the #1 pass catcher on the team, I think Bateman will be a lot more involved than Watkins was(and Watkins will still see some passes) and perhaps most of all, I think the Ravens will get their defense and running games figured out as the season goes on. 

All of that adds up to me thinking Brown is a good sell high right now. 
I dunno. In your original assessment—you put him where you did with your justification being one game with perfect game flow—but you didn’t mention the insane flukey nature of a game where the dude dropped 3 tds.   Also—the same perfect game flow rationale was not used in ranking Andrews so high.  Brown has having a great year before the perfect game flow game.  Andrews was a big disappointment before that—I know because I have both Andrews and Brown on one of my teams.   As far as I can see—the only remotely effective running game the Ravens have shown this season was that of Lamars.     Freeman looked decent catching balls out of the backfield—but none of their running backs looked good enough to make me believe that they are going to go back to being a team whose offense is primarily through the run.  I also don’t think they will want Lamar running the ball 15-20x a game. That’s just too risky.  I don’t disagree that Browns production can decline —but even with that—I think ranking him as a wr3 moving forward is still pretty crazy. 

 
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I dunno. In your original assessment—you put him where you did with your justification being one game with perfect game flow—but you didn’t mention the insane flukey nature of a game where the dude dropped 3 tds.   Also—the same perfect game flow rationale was not used in ranking Andrews so high.  Brown has having a great year before the perfect game flow game.  Andrews was a big disappointment before that—I know because I have both Andrews and Brown on one of my teams.   As far as I can see—the only remotely effective running game the Ravens have shown this season was that of Lamars.     Freeman looked decent catching balls out of the backfield—but none of their running backs looked good enough to make me believe that they are going to go back to being a team whose offense is primarily through the run.  I also don’t think they will want Lamar running the ball 15-20x a game. That’s just too risky.  I don’t disagree that Browns production can decline —but even with that—I think ranking him as a wr3 moving forward is still pretty crazy. 
People keep saying Brown dropped 3 TDs in the Detroit game, and it isn't really true, he dropped 1 TD. 1 ball was tipped right before it got to Brown, and 1 wouldn't have counted anyway. Brown is having a very good year, I agree, but I feel like its highly unlikely to stay at anywhere near the pace its been at. 

I didn't use the perfect game script justification for Andrews, but I also didn't change his ranking in any way. I would certainly disagree he was a bust prior to that, he had a bad week 1 and that is it. 

Its possible I'm still leaning too much on what I expect the Ravens to be, as far as defense and running game go, I'll admit that. I think the running game hasn't been that bad outside of Jackson either, it just hasn't been focused on 1 guy. I still think the Ravens haven't fundamentally changed what they want to be as a team, but that its just worked out that way a bit so far. I think the Broncos game is what the Ravens want to be most weeks.

Maybe I am too low on the Ravens passing game in general, but I need to see more. 

 

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