knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Trump had the most secure border since the Mayans ran Mexico. Now look at it. Unemployment was as close to zero as humanly possible before the virus came over from China.
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Biden: Worst President Ever? (1 Viewer)
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James Daulton
Footballguy
What was unemployment when Obama took office and when he left?But no one's got you beat on revisionist history.
What was GDP the last four years of Obama?
What were the deficits the last four years of Obama?
Compare average border crossing for Obama's last four years vs Trump's.
You folks trying to run Obama down should stick to your Fox talking point "I didn't get to keep my doctor!"
I hope most of you are trolling, if not I weep for this country.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Haha, Trump not only had the highest number of border arrests in 2019 since the '00's, he also deported far fewer people than Obama.
Obama reduced unemployment from 10 to 4.7. Trump actually slowed the rate of decrease to a measly 1.2 more to end at 3.5.
Like I said, you MAGA guys are certainly good at cooking up fantasies...SAD
BladeRunner
Footballguy
No one's got you beat at revisionist history AND cherry-picking!! It's almost as if you went to school exclusively for it.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Im glad you think he was a champion of small business He was a champion of a lot of awful things as well. Overall...a very bad POTUS.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Ok, cherry pick the stats that you think made what Trump walked into a disaster. Maybe the lack of a pandemic response team...oh wait...
sho nuff
Footballguy
Its not a circle the wagons to defend him. That happens in that MAGA thread. Its that the other guy was worse. Look at most of the responses. its that he is a disappointment...that he is bad. Just not the worst. That is a pretty tepid defense. And the largest group that think Biden is the worst ever...will still openly admit they will vote for Trump again. That is pretty telling.
for most , not all, it’s circle the wagons and defend this silly goose of a President
supermike80
Footballguy
Clearly Biden is struggling. Again, I put the majority of this on his age. He just doesn't come off as Presidential. He comes off as a feeble old man. I think this does limit his ability for him to flex his muscles with the legislature to get things done.
I also believe he wrongfully thought as long as he was opposite Trump, he would be able to get anything done. And that's not an unfair belief. He was elected because of the ABT crowd, and rode that wave into the oval office.
Worst President ever? Might be a stretch for me. He is dealing with a severely partisan political system, and that's gotta be hard for anyone
I also believe he wrongfully thought as long as he was opposite Trump, he would be able to get anything done. And that's not an unfair belief. He was elected because of the ABT crowd, and rode that wave into the oval office.
Worst President ever? Might be a stretch for me. He is dealing with a severely partisan political system, and that's gotta be hard for anyone
sho nuff
Footballguy
Sure they do...the people acting as if Obama left a mess and Trump fixed it all. That is the king of revisionist history. That much is crystal clear.
TripItUp
Footballguy
He's always had substandard intelligence too. Education, degree, GPA, success outside of politics...all evident.
Dude never had the competencies for the office and it's astonishing that the FFA liberals ever thought he did, absolutely astonishing.
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moleculo
Footballguy
lol...you don't get to pretend Trumps mismanagement of COVID didn't happen. That's part of the record.
sho nuff
Footballguy
The bolded yes...and that was true for Obama and Trump and will be going forward as well.
moleculo
Footballguy
you guys know what the unemployment rate is now? 3.9%... and dropping.
Under Biden, unemployment went from 6.4% (Jan 2021) to 3.9%. Worst president of all time, right?
HellToupee
Footballguy
Donald was a stellar commander in chief. He set the plate for a great recovery. Unfortunately I can’t think of 1 thing that Biden hasn’t failed at . He’s been great for the Republican party What a disaster. Putin must be shaking in his boots
TripItUp
Footballguy
Trump Accomplishments
1. Reversed era of soft foreign policy w/China and Iran
2. Turned the economy into a juggernaught without using Biden-ish money printing
3. Actually addressed Immigration
4. Appointed conservative judges
5. Supported Law Enforcement
6. Supported the military
I'm probably missing a few, but that's a great list for a 4 year term.
1. Reversed era of soft foreign policy w/China and Iran
2. Turned the economy into a juggernaught without using Biden-ish money printing
3. Actually addressed Immigration
4. Appointed conservative judges
5. Supported Law Enforcement
6. Supported the military
I'm probably missing a few, but that's a great list for a 4 year term.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I agree with most of this. Biden is not presidential and doesn't really inspire anyone. The Dems had better picks in the primary, but they went with the guy that had the best chance of beating Trump. I would put Biden as a 'Meh' president that will end up in the bottom 1/3, but far from the worse ever.
Hopefully we don't see either in 2024.
Herb
Footballguy
I mostly disagree with this list, but that's not the point. If Trump had cured half the ills that befall society over his 4 year term, the events post-election and his involvement in them would be enough to declare him a terrible president overall. I just pray that he's the worst of my hopefully long lifetime.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Very true my friend. It’s understandable after the amount of Trump ranting the last 5 years many will be too proud to acknowledge how bad this has been. They are just too emotional invested and can’t accept any other narrative. I’m with you and am praying Biden can get it together, for the sake of our county.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
I can't get behind 1, 2, 5 or 6. No need to re-hash.
Yes, he did address immigration, although I wasn't in favor of his "solutions."
Those conservative judges have mostly turned out to be semi-decent choices. I'm not thrilled about them though.
TripItUp
Footballguy
I can appreciate that response. Many of those can be debated, I agree. It depends on where you stand on the issue.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
You mean that time he gave a speech to the American People and Congress where he warned of the virus from China and the Democratic Speaker of the House just ripped it up while setting a terrible example?
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
I’d say he has a year. If not, he gets impeached
this is something we all should agree on
squistion
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Well you are missing a lot. First and foremost maybe you should get your facts straight. Who was president in 2020?
https://businessnow.mt/cash-crazy-almost-a-fifth-of-all-us-dollars-were-created-in-2020-alone/
squistion
Footballguy
Somehow I doubt that would qualify under the category of High Crimes and Misdemeanors under The Constitution.
The General
Footballguy
Check out W's run. Financial crisis, started a needless war where we attacked the wrong country creating a 20 year fiasco.
Still Trump's continued attack on democracy gets him the top spot. This was needless and created by him for no reason.
Mile High
Footballguy
Good chance if the Republicans take the house they are going to impeach Biden. I hope they do. People need to be reminded Republicans aren't any better at government either before 2024.
supermike80
Footballguy
$50 bucks says he replies with "That's not impeachable"
LOL guess I should have rolled through the whole thread. Someone owes me $50.
Wow..Just wow.
Didn't someone ask if he ever laughs? Chuckles? Has any moment of a little levity? This stuff is just amazing.
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Yeah, TRUMP dividing and turning the country against itself and attacking its own government leading to charges of Seditious Conspiracy kinda should always be a LOCK for worst POTUS --
GoBirds
Footballguy
Just manufacture something similar to last guy. That really cheapened the significance.
I say give it 6 more months.
TripItUp
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
I understand you’re emotionally invested more than almost anyone at this point, we both know the truth though friend.
TripItUp
Footballguy
"charges" is the key word here. People are going to believe the narrative they want to believe.
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TripItUp
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
He had Republicans voting to boot him for this. The unique circumstances of the timing saved him - he was already out of office.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Lots of Schiff related indictments that ended up in a nothingburger....a huge wast of time and taxpayer dollars. Meanwhile the American working class continues to struggle, while the Democrats are on their crusade against Trump.
The red wave is coming, and it shouldn't be a big surprise as to why.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
squistion
Footballguy
I laugh at your posts all the time, although what I find humorous is probably unintended.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Why the hell would he get credit for any of these? Would you credit Biden with appointing liberal judges as an accomplishment? 5/6 - outside of lip service, essentially all Presidents give tons of money to the military and LE.
The General
Footballguy
That's what I call it. Has millions of people buying this nonsense. Had them wound up enough to attack the Capitol.
Instead of learning that he's a danger he is still doing it today.
This is why he locks down the top spot.
TripItUp
Footballguy
supermike80
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
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supermike80
Footballguy
Oh yes...every time I see someone here call it an attack on Democracy and/or affecting "free and fair elections" I KNOW, without any doubt whatsoever, they have drank the CNN /liberal koolaid. Absolutely certain of it.
It's funny. It's like watching Covid spread through the world. CNN comes up with a term, and its actually fun to watch it filter through the left.
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The General
Footballguy
Greatest economy in history is kind of made up.
DJT cleaned up Obama’s mess pretty quickly and ushered in the “greatest economy in history.” Biden just seems to not have the moxie.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Boy the standard has changed.Within 24hrs of being elected Pelosi said they would impeach Donald.
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