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I own Ward and am optimistic about how he's played and the time he'll get going forward, but I wouldn't play him or Jacobs this week. I'd wait to see how much work Jacobs gets - do they alternate series? do they only bring in BJ in short yardage/goal line? Does Ward become only a 3rd down/COP back? What % of carries will each get? etc.
You have my roster. Starting Morris here too.
he practiced twice last weekJacobs is going to be a top 10 back this week, as long as he doesn't have any set backs. He already went through a full workout last week. They held him out of week 4 as a precaution. Now he'll get to face the sieve like defense of the Jets.
I have little doubt that Jacobs will run hard. He sees his opportunity for being "the man" in this offense all but evaporated. But this coaching staff realizes that Ward really keeps the offense moving. To me, they are less predictable when Ward is in there. At best, Jacobs will split carries with Ward this week. I believe from what I've seen and read that the job is now Ward's to lose.
I am an owner as well. I also owned Ward until last week....traded him for Reggie Bush.Having said that, I'll be starting Reggie over Jacobs this week only because I want to make sure Jacobs plays out how I think he will.I agree, he goes for 100+ and 1TD+. The Jets run DEF is terrible. Who did Ronnie "get right" against? J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!!Jacobs will do the same.
We're allowed to post facts??he practiced twice last weekJacobs is going to be a top 10 back this week, as long as he doesn't have any set backs. He already went through a full workout last week. They held him out of week 4 as a precaution. Now he'll get to face the sieve like defense of the Jets.
Last year when their D was good he did similarly well.Ronnie Brown averages something like 112 or 120 against the Jets and 60-65 against the rest of the league.
Good post. I concur.
You mean Robert Douglas...
Robert Douglas......same initials, different player. Unless Droughns has an alias....
Doesn't everyone have an alias?...or 4?Robert Douglas......same initials, different player. Unless Droughns has an alias....
The Giants are at the bottom rung of rushing stats because it's pretty evident that this is a passing team, first and foremost. This will NEVER be a grind it out Steelers type offense with the current regime and as such Jacobs' value has taken a severe plunge since the preseason. Ward will continue to be a solid fantasy starter in PPR leagues because he will continue to get 12-15 carries and 4+ reception with or without Jacobs. His ceiling is limited bc he simply won't be used inside the 10, but he'll still continue to be a solid contributor.
This is wrong. It's Robert Douglas. My apologies.
Great.
All you knuckle head Ward owners need to really absorb what is about to take place. Brandon Jacobs is about to become healthy after the week one injury thus RECLAIMING his #1 RB role. Ward has played well and solidified himself as the #2 and a player who should get some chances during the game to produce for the Giants.Here comes Jacobs.....let's see if he runs over the Jets!
Ward filled in like a good backup should. I think Jacobs is healthier than ward at this point.
Where do they rank in yards per carry?One reason they don't run as much as others is they're limited after Ward, and he was dinged. Another is offensive philosophy.
Will you get Brandon Jacobs back?Hopefully we will get him involved, up to speed. He has got good energy. We just did the jog-thru and he moved around very well.The kicking situation will stay the same?It will. If Brandon is healthy and ready to go, is the job still his?We will see how that is at the end of the week. We will determine how people practice and then, of course, according to how we plan on playing the game, we will figure out how we are going to operate that way. Obviously I have said before we are going to utilize the talents of everybody that we can. Certainly it would be in our best interest to have Brandon ready to go. Is there room for both Brandon Jacobs and Derrick Ward to get work? Oh sure.Is Derrick Ward still sore?Yeah he is going to work, he is going to work. Yeah, he is sore.Do you anticipate that he will be limited in the game in any way?No. I don’t see that.It is just a matter of mixing the two in?Again, whatever your plan is, whatever your strategy is, how you plan to use them, that type of thing.Would you use the two guys for the same type of stuff?Obviously there are plays that they would run which would be the same, but there are different reasons for using them and you would like to be able to utilize their talent.Bermuda_Chub said:
Tied for 15th with a 4.2... nothing special-OZ- said:
Nothing special, yet above average. Ward is #10 in rushing yards and yards from scrimmage. He has the 15th most rushes and the 4th most receptions out of RBs.
Does this really matter? Do you honestly think to yourself when setting your lineup "well, LT is my #1, Jacobs is my #2, and TJones is my flex"? I just think"I start 3 RBs, who are my best 3..." and take those.Giants unsure about Jacobs' role
Brandon Jacobs, RB NYG
News: A little less than a month after spraining his right knee in the season opener, Brandon Jacobs is ready to return to his job as the New York Giants' starting halfback. There's a little problem, though. Derrick Ward has played so well filling in for him that coach Tom Coughlin has to decide how to split the work. The unwritten rule in football is that a starter never loses his job because of an injury, and Jacobs was the successor to the retired Tiki Barber coming into this season. Coughlin refused to say whether Jacobs would start against the Jets (1-3) on Sunday. He intends to wait until the end of the week before making a decision who starts and how much time each player gets. "Obviously there are plays that they would run which would be the same, but there are different reasons for using them and you would like to be able to utilize their talent," Coughlin said.
Analysis: Jacobs insisted he was ready to roll, even noting his days on the scout team are over. "I am not Thomas Jones this week," Jacobs said, referring to the Jets' starting halfback. "I will be Brandon Jacobs from here on out. I hope so." The one thing that may make Coughlin's decision a little easier is that Ward has been bothered by a sore ankle the past week. It should clear the way for Jacobs to get some carries. With his size, Jacobs might be a good fit against the Jets. They have a quick defense that is not overly big up front. The real question remains how much the Giants intend to use Jacobs within the 20s? Because he is still likely their best bet in red zone situations, making him a Fantasy friendly player. Continue to monitor the situation, but if Jacobs plays and Ward doesn't, consider him a decent No. 2 Fantasy RB for Week 5. Otherwise, Jacobs might just be a 'flex' option for Week 5.
I think the point is that if you have two strong RB's, two strong WR's and for your flex you have to decide between say a Greg Jennings or Jacobs, go with Jacobs and not the 3rd WR....Don't opt for a mediocre WR over Jacobs if you have the chance in week 5. And that's exactly what I did. With bye weeks and my WR's being week I was looking at starting TO, Colston and Galloway. Put Galloway back on the bench for BJ.Does this really matter? Do you honestly think to yourself when setting your lineup "well, LT is my #1, Jacobs is my #2, and TJones is my flex"? I just think"I start 3 RBs, who are my best 3..." and take those.Giants unsure about Jacobs' role
Brandon Jacobs, RB NYG
News: A little less than a month after spraining his right knee in the season opener, Brandon Jacobs is ready to return to his job as the New York Giants' starting halfback. There's a little problem, though. Derrick Ward has played so well filling in for him that coach Tom Coughlin has to decide how to split the work. The unwritten rule in football is that a starter never loses his job because of an injury, and Jacobs was the successor to the retired Tiki Barber coming into this season. Coughlin refused to say whether Jacobs would start against the Jets (1-3) on Sunday. He intends to wait until the end of the week before making a decision who starts and how much time each player gets. "Obviously there are plays that they would run which would be the same, but there are different reasons for using them and you would like to be able to utilize their talent," Coughlin said.
Analysis: Jacobs insisted he was ready to roll, even noting his days on the scout team are over. "I am not Thomas Jones this week," Jacobs said, referring to the Jets' starting halfback. "I will be Brandon Jacobs from here on out. I hope so." The one thing that may make Coughlin's decision a little easier is that Ward has been bothered by a sore ankle the past week. It should clear the way for Jacobs to get some carries. With his size, Jacobs might be a good fit against the Jets. They have a quick defense that is not overly big up front. The real question remains how much the Giants intend to use Jacobs within the 20s? Because he is still likely their best bet in red zone situations, making him a Fantasy friendly player. Continue to monitor the situation, but if Jacobs plays and Ward doesn't, consider him a decent No. 2 Fantasy RB for Week 5. Otherwise, Jacobs might just be a 'flex' option for Week 5.
ok, all I'm saying is I start my 2 best Rbs, 2 best WRs, and best left over, LT can be my flex for all I care.I think the point is that if you have two strong RB's, two strong WR's and for your flex you have to decide between say a Greg Jennings or Jacobs, go with Jacobs and not the 3rd WR....Don't opt for a mediocre WR over Jacobs if you have the chance in week 5. And that's exactly what I did. With bye weeks and my WR's being week I was looking at starting TO, Colston and Galloway. Put Galloway back on the bench for BJ.Does this really matter? Do you honestly think to yourself when setting your lineup "well, LT is my #1, Jacobs is my #2, and TJones is my flex"? I just think"I start 3 RBs, who are my best 3..." and take those.Giants unsure about Jacobs' role
Brandon Jacobs, RB NYG
News: A little less than a month after spraining his right knee in the season opener, Brandon Jacobs is ready to return to his job as the New York Giants' starting halfback. There's a little problem, though. Derrick Ward has played so well filling in for him that coach Tom Coughlin has to decide how to split the work. The unwritten rule in football is that a starter never loses his job because of an injury, and Jacobs was the successor to the retired Tiki Barber coming into this season. Coughlin refused to say whether Jacobs would start against the Jets (1-3) on Sunday. He intends to wait until the end of the week before making a decision who starts and how much time each player gets. "Obviously there are plays that they would run which would be the same, but there are different reasons for using them and you would like to be able to utilize their talent," Coughlin said.
Analysis: Jacobs insisted he was ready to roll, even noting his days on the scout team are over. "I am not Thomas Jones this week," Jacobs said, referring to the Jets' starting halfback. "I will be Brandon Jacobs from here on out. I hope so." The one thing that may make Coughlin's decision a little easier is that Ward has been bothered by a sore ankle the past week. It should clear the way for Jacobs to get some carries. With his size, Jacobs might be a good fit against the Jets. They have a quick defense that is not overly big up front. The real question remains how much the Giants intend to use Jacobs within the 20s? Because he is still likely their best bet in red zone situations, making him a Fantasy friendly player. Continue to monitor the situation, but if Jacobs plays and Ward doesn't, consider him a decent No. 2 Fantasy RB for Week 5. Otherwise, Jacobs might just be a 'flex' option for Week 5.
I can get with that...
