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Matt Wilhelm Calf Injury - Tim Dobbins to Start in his place (1 Viewer)
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
This is something to watch. I was very impressed with Dobbins last year in his limited time. I also can't wait to see Anthony Waters play.
I wonder what effect this may have on who plays the WILB spot. I have always believed Cooper is a better player than Wilhelm, and I wonder if he might get some time at WILB in the preseason.
The Chargers are pretty deep at ILB. Wilhelm could not have gotten hurt at a worse time for him with so many talented players waiting in the wings.
I wonder what effect this may have on who plays the WILB spot. I have always believed Cooper is a better player than Wilhelm, and I wonder if he might get some time at WILB in the preseason.
The Chargers are pretty deep at ILB. Wilhelm could not have gotten hurt at a worse time for him with so many talented players waiting in the wings.
dgreen
Footballguy
I didn't get to see to much of the game last night. How did Waters look?
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I wrote a little bit about these guys in the game thread. Honestly, there wasn't much to go on.
Waters started the second quarter. That's probably a good sign for him. They got a good look at him with plenty of top talent still on the field. He didn't look particularly good or bad. He made a couple stops as his role dictated. They weren't spectacular, the plays came right to him. I'm really down on this guy because of stuff I read at other sites. I'm open minded to having that wrong.
Dobbins had four solos in the first quarter. That's a nice start, but again, I wouldn't call it spectacular. All of those tackles were 5-10 yards down the field (ah, the old DonnieEdwards criticism). Points is points I guess. I will say I thought Dobbins looked light and lean and he was seen a few times fairly deep in coverage and all the way to the sideline so he was covering ground. Dobbins may do a better Edwards impersonation than Wilhelm.
Siler looked very aggressive in the second half. He was holding his ground, pressuring the point of attack, and of course against the scrubs playing for his life, but he was better than I expected.
Polk was used in a variety of ways, both inside and out. He's a player too.
Waters started the second quarter. That's probably a good sign for him. They got a good look at him with plenty of top talent still on the field. He didn't look particularly good or bad. He made a couple stops as his role dictated. They weren't spectacular, the plays came right to him. I'm really down on this guy because of stuff I read at other sites. I'm open minded to having that wrong.
Dobbins had four solos in the first quarter. That's a nice start, but again, I wouldn't call it spectacular. All of those tackles were 5-10 yards down the field (ah, the old DonnieEdwards criticism). Points is points I guess. I will say I thought Dobbins looked light and lean and he was seen a few times fairly deep in coverage and all the way to the sideline so he was covering ground. Dobbins may do a better Edwards impersonation than Wilhelm.
Siler looked very aggressive in the second half. He was holding his ground, pressuring the point of attack, and of course against the scrubs playing for his life, but he was better than I expected.
Polk was used in a variety of ways, both inside and out. He's a player too.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
I've always felt he was the best LB after Edwards left, and the previous coaching staff/front office seemed to think that way too. He was much more sudden and aggressive than Dobbins tonight and he was the nickel ILB, which boosted his stats since the Rams were in a lot of 3 WR sets. His outlooks is still dependent on what happens if/when Wilhelm returns. If Wilhelm is better than Dobbins and takes the nickel job, it's probably still a Wilhelm LB3 and Cooper LB4-5 situation. If Cooper wins the every down job, then he's going back into the top 30 for me.
GridironMenace
Footballguy
Unless your draft is after the season then you'll have to make that decision before we actually know the answer. What are you going to do on draft day?
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I will take my chances on Cooper's upside if I have that choice. There is no way to know, but I have felt all along that Cooper is more athletic and believe he is better in coverage.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Redraft? I'm taking neither. Both are too large a risk for what looks like minimal upside. Dynasty? Depending on any number of drafting scenarios, I'm taking who I believe is the best player -- Cooper.My next set of rankings will probably have Wilhelm in the 50s and Cooper in the late 30s.GridironMenace said:
msommer
Footballguy
And here I thought I was going to have to cut CooperPS Typing on a French keyboard blows
redman
Footballguy
Why? Is every key a backspace?
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Any updates on Wilhelm's recovery? I haven't seen anything.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
He was back at practice last week. No new news on alignments that I've seen or read.
redman
Footballguy
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I don't think he will play this year unless Cooper or Wilhelm get hurt, but I kept him in a couple of deep leagues. He has some talent, but unsure of any opportunity he might get in the near future.
mario8723
Footballguy
Anybody have the latest on this situation? I own both Wilhelm and Cooper in one league and don't know who to start. If Wilhelm is healthy, I'll start him otherwise I may be looking at a choice between Cooper and Vrabel. My first two starts are Demeco Ryans and Ernie Sims.Geez, someone in one of my deep dynasty IDP leagues just dropped both Wilhelm and Dobbins.
mario8723
Footballguy
Anybody? Wilhelm, Cooper or Vrabel?Anybody have the latest on this situation? I own both Wilhelm and Cooper in one league and don't know who to start. If Wilhelm is healthy, I'll start him otherwise I may be looking at a choice between Cooper and Vrabel. My first two starts are Demeco Ryans and Ernie Sims.Geez, someone in one of my deep dynasty IDP leagues just dropped both Wilhelm and Dobbins.
pretender
Footballguy
I am starting Cooper in a couple of leagues. IMHO he will have more opportunites than Vrabel and Wilhelm - not sure what his health status is.Anybody? Wilhelm, Cooper or Vrabel?Anybody have the latest on this situation? I own both Wilhelm and Cooper in one league and don't know who to start. If Wilhelm is healthy, I'll start him otherwise I may be looking at a choice between Cooper and Vrabel. My first two starts are Demeco Ryans and Ernie Sims.Geez, someone in one of my deep dynasty IDP leagues just dropped both Wilhelm and Dobbins.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Wilhelm is apparently healthy and theoretically the nickel backer. Hard to know how many snaps Cooper gets if he sits on passing downs and Vrabel's status is up in-the-air with the Pats scheme so variable given the recent injuries.Advice requests will probably get more responses in the IDP AC forum -- scoring system will help there as well.Anybody? Wilhelm, Cooper or Vrabel?Anybody have the latest on this situation? I own both Wilhelm and Cooper in one league and don't know who to start. If Wilhelm is healthy, I'll start him otherwise I may be looking at a choice between Cooper and Vrabel. My first two starts are Demeco Ryans and Ernie Sims.Geez, someone in one of my deep dynasty IDP leagues just dropped both Wilhelm and Dobbins.
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
Dobbins getting a start, i know these forums had supporters of him earler in preseason-what can dobbins do this week and since whilhelm hasn't been awe inspiring can he keep the job(if he produces)?
Jestefarean
Footballguy
I like him...he showed some flashes last preseason..it's a longshot, but if he comes in with a bang this game who knows...
redman
Footballguy
Any sign of Dobbins in this game? I had the misfortune of starting him (yeah, I'm thin at LB on that team)
