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Why bother making a sour grapes post like this? If you don't wanna contribute to this thread just go to another one. Christ.This would be a worthwhile discussion to have if not for the lame thread title.
That's an amazing precedent that cop set as reasoning for taking Reby's money. In response to the admission that he couldn't prove Reby was going to use it for drugs, he said "he couldn't prove it was legitimate."
Unbelievable. had that been me, I probably would have been arrested because I would have gone ape#### at such an obvious shakedown by the cop. And with no evidence other than "well, normal people don't carry 22K in cash".
This has been going on for a long time. Sheriff Bob Vogel was doing this on I-95 outside Daytona 20 years ago.
Never volunteer anything to the police.Do you have a large amount of cash? The answer is no.
Definitely true. One time I was wrapping up the install of a security system for a former police officer. He asked me if I smoked marijuana and I told him that I like to smoke here and there. Then he told me how he could have me arrested for making that admission (jokingly of course). I laughed with him and it wasn't a big deal. He even mentioned that his son living with him smoked himself. But the authoritarian streak I've noticed in most cops is ridiculous. They put on that little black uniform and it's like they run the world.I used to box with the ma state police boxing team and i can say that they are for the most part all good dudes...just dont get on there bad side
Not unless they're really willing to hang something on you. Most are just looking for low hanging fruit. It falls in the "it never hurts to ask" column.
He allowed the officer to search. Why should he expect that having a large amount of cash is enough reason in itself to have it confiscated? I can't find the article now, but around two years ago, the Detroit Free Press had an article that Michigan's police are confiscating money and possessions are a record level. Many of the people having their possessions taken are not being charged or convicted of any crimes and many are finding it difficult to get their possessions back.
I guess he didn't read the same article you did.
I was just curious if you have a good answer or is it just status quo that carrying a large amount of cash is suspicion enough to have it taken?I couldn't find the article, but I found this interesting article about the Michigan State Police confiscating cell phone data.
Why else would a cop ask out of the blue if you have a large amount of cash?
Agreed, but more to the point of this thread, it shouldn't have to be that way in the "Land of the Free".
It sure has. Alot better than beating someone with a stick.
to the Chicago PD for looking out for the safety of these idiot protesters.
Those idiots are citizens and are exercising a right plenty of people have died to secure.It sure has. Alot better than beating someone with a stick.
And the police aren't beating them. What's the issue here?Those idiots are citizens and are exercising a right plenty of people have died to secure.It sure has. Alot better than beating someone with a stick.
Permanent hearing loss?And the police aren't beating them. What's the issue here?Those idiots are citizens and are exercising a right plenty of people have died to secure.It sure has. Alot better than beating someone with a stick.
What?Permanent hearing loss?And the police aren't beating them. What's the issue here?Those idiots are citizens and are exercising a right plenty of people have died to secure.It sure has. Alot better than beating someone with a stick.
Be easy on Chad here. It's a good thing to have unquestioning love for your rulers, because everyone knows this country was founded on bootlicking.Those idiots are citizens and are exercising a right plenty of people have died to secure.It sure has. Alot better than beating someone with a stick.
I'm not sure I understand this. It doesn't seem like he volunteered the part about the cash, at least the way I read the article. It seems like he was asked directly by the cop.Are you legally allowed to lie to a cop when he asks a question like that? I get that the cop would have had no way of knowing that he was lying. But I've always been taught that the best way to handle a traffic stop is to answer all questions honestly but to never consent to a search, even if you are doing nothing wrong.For instance, in this situation, let's say the guy says "no" when asked if he has a large amount of cash, but then the cop decides that he smells weed in the car and searches it based on what he will say is probably cause. Then he finds the money. Now, the guy has lied about that part...how does that impact him going forward?
Can't remember ever saying this before. I agree completely with Charles on this.
Though I am sick of the whining from some of these groups every night that I turn on the local news because they are not being allowed to do everything they want to do, exactly where they want to do it, and how they want to do it- the idiot protesters that I am talking about are the ones causing problems and thus in confrontation with Chicago PD. If you come to my city with the purpose of vandalizing or worse- you are an idiot. I still think the Chicago PD is doing a great job in looking out for these idiots even while they keep law and order in the streets.Those idiots are citizens and are exercising a right plenty of people have died to secure.It sure has. Alot better than beating someone with a stick.
I have seen these types of units displayed on tv shows like Futureweapons. The host and manufacturers had it used on them. It is just a way to cry another boy who sees a wolf behind every corner and cries 'police state'.Permanent hearing loss?And the police aren't beating them. What's the issue here?Those idiots are citizens and are exercising a right plenty of people have died to secure.It sure has. Alot better than beating someone with a stick.
Honest question: so this device can't cause permanent hearing loss?I have seen these types of units displayed on tv shows like Futureweapons. The host and manufacturers had it used on them. It is just a way to cry another boy who sees a wolf behind every corner and cries 'police state'.Permanent hearing loss?And the police aren't beating them. What's the issue here?Those idiots are citizens and are exercising a right plenty of people have died to secure.It sure has. Alot better than beating someone with a stick.
So if I shoot one down, do I get to keep it like Iran? Kind of like an NFL ball going into the stands?
I am not an expert, but from what I remember- they do not have any long term issues like hearing loss if used properly i.e. the right distance, short bursts and/or level. Above the 140 decibel level you are at risk of hearing damage even in short bursts. The really powerful one shown on Futureweapons tops out at 150. (you can see the green, yellow, red on the volume level). Which is about what a rock concert is.
Pretty sure loss of the use of your legs would cover the 22k theft.
What are you talking about?
people that steal large sums of money might not be able to walk in the future
You can get Obama to sign it then put it on Ebay.So if I shoot one down, do I get to keep it like Iran? Kind of like an NFL ball going into the stands?
Yeah because the people running into pepper spray to get away from it were just uncomfortable. And of course we all know no police officer will ever use an allegedly non-lethal weapon in a way it becomes harmful and even lethal. Never any news of that happening.
