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Startup Dynasty Draft Ongoing (1 Viewer)

vikingdave said:
doowain said:
vikingdave said:
And I do love Fitz, Im just surprised how high these guys are going...I just traded for Fitz, gaveup Boldin and Jacobs...maybe too much, but it seems like he is worth it...
So, you gave up Boldin/Jacobs for Fitz, yet you don't understand how Fitz could go at 1.01?
1.1, NO
As the only player in this format that has scored 300+ each of the last two years (ADP shows promise of 300+, but yet to make it), I think he merits the #1. Sure, maybe (a big maybe, in my opinion) ADP has the higher upside with the 2000 yard season that has yet to come, but I'll take Fitz's consistency and likely longevity over ADP every time. Keep in mind, Fitz is likely to be able to match a 2000 yard ADP season in PPR with a 1500 season of his own.
 
gianmarco said:
Marshall last 2 yrs:104/1265/6102/1325/7Roddy last 2 yrs:88/1382/783/1202/6Aside from the extra 15-20 receptions, where's this "higher ceiling"? Now, factor in:1. Stability of Ryan vs. Cutler (as of now)2. No suspension3. Lack of very good #2 to take away catches (Atl #2 vs. Royal)4. Better run gameForgive me for not seeing this significant upside in Marshall vs. Roddy. Is it supposed to be coming this year? Because it sure hasn't really happened yet.
Which one would you say does better in Mop up Time?
Oh no you DI-INT...PLEASE don't even try that one again. :blackdot:
 
gianmarco said:
Marshall last 2 yrs:104/1265/6102/1325/7Roddy last 2 yrs:88/1382/783/1202/6Aside from the extra 15-20 receptions, where's this "higher ceiling"? Now, factor in:1. Stability of Ryan vs. Cutler (as of now)2. No suspension3. Lack of very good #2 to take away catches (Atl #2 vs. Royal)4. Better run gameForgive me for not seeing this significant upside in Marshall vs. Roddy. Is it supposed to be coming this year? Because it sure hasn't really happened yet.
Which one would you say does better in Mop up Time?
Oh no you DI-INT...PLEASE don't even try that one again. :goodposting:
Was giving gianmarco a little poke. It wasn't a serious comment. LOL... Lets move on...
 
A word of caution to anyone that uses the developmental players in their league. I've done those before and they can be a lot of fun but you need a good core group of owners committed to the league long term, even more so than normal leagues. The reason is that you are adding a year to 2 years to any team that needs to rebuild since a large percentage of the best college players are already spoken for. This can make it even harder to find replacement owners or have owners stick around if their team craters on them.

 
A word of caution to anyone that uses the developmental players in their league. I've done those before and they can be a lot of fun but you need a good core group of owners committed to the league long term, even more so than normal leagues. The reason is that you are adding a year to 2 years to any team that needs to rebuild since a large percentage of the best college players are already spoken for. This can make it even harder to find replacement owners or have owners stick around if their team craters on them.
Not into the development thing myself for the reasons you mentioned; it really kills future rookie picks
 
A word of caution to anyone that uses the developmental players in their league. I've done those before and they can be a lot of fun but you need a good core group of owners committed to the league long term, even more so than normal leagues. The reason is that you are adding a year to 2 years to any team that needs to rebuild since a large percentage of the best college players are already spoken for. This can make it even harder to find replacement owners or have owners stick around if their team craters on them.
Not into the development thing myself for the reasons you mentioned; it really kills future rookie picks
I think it evens out, since everyone gets a DEV pick every year too (point noted about the extra year, though). So a bad team winds up with the #1 rookie pick and the #1 DEV for the following year. And you don't have to be a college guru to find next year's top 10 guys. So it does kind of even out. And maybe it makes a few more guys follow the college game a bit more (I'm in three leagues w/ DEV picks, and it's made me pay more attention.)Plus, an abandoned team could have a devy already. I took over a team in a dev league that already had HeyBey - made me happy. :) I didn't use a devy in this draft, and even traded my 2010 to move up a round and get Carlson, which I felt important enough to sacrifice it (I let TE slip, and was in danger of really getting nothing there). But I went young enough that it (hopefully) won't be a problem. And I plan to keep my 2011 (and may even get a 2010 in a trade sometime).
 
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A word of caution to anyone that uses the developmental players in their league. I've done those before and they can be a lot of fun but you need a good core group of owners committed to the league long term, even more so than normal leagues. The reason is that you are adding a year to 2 years to any team that needs to rebuild since a large percentage of the best college players are already spoken for. This can make it even harder to find replacement owners or have owners stick around if their team craters on them.
Not into the development thing myself for the reasons you mentioned; it really kills future rookie picks
That is true, but the future Devy picks take on big trade value. So the worst team that has the #1 rookie pick (e.g., for this year, Donald Brown) also gets the #1 Dev pick (which this year would be Dez Bryant). The two combined are more valuable (particlarly in trade value) than your typical 1.01 rookie pick in my opinion. So in a sense, the worst team can rebuild even faster in this format.
 
A word of caution to anyone that uses the developmental players in their league. I've done those before and they can be a lot of fun but you need a good core group of owners committed to the league long term, even more so than normal leagues. The reason is that you are adding a year to 2 years to any team that needs to rebuild since a large percentage of the best college players are already spoken for. This can make it even harder to find replacement owners or have owners stick around if their team craters on them.
Not into the development thing myself for the reasons you mentioned; it really kills future rookie picks
That is true, but the future Devy picks take on big trade value. So the worst team that has the #1 rookie pick (e.g., for this year, Donald Brown) also gets the #1 Dev pick (which this year would be Dez Bryant). The two combined are more valuable (particlarly in trade value) than your typical 1.01 rookie pick in my opinion. So in a sense, the worst team can rebuild even faster in this format.
I guess, I really don't know since I never jumped into one so I can't judge. So if you know a lot about college players... you can be very dangerous in that format. I would stink it up, If anyone is starting a low $$ one any day ($25 or under); shot me a PM.
 
A word of caution to anyone that uses the developmental players in their league. I've done those before and they can be a lot of fun but you need a good core group of owners committed to the league long term, even more so than normal leagues. The reason is that you are adding a year to 2 years to any team that needs to rebuild since a large percentage of the best college players are already spoken for. This can make it even harder to find replacement owners or have owners stick around if their team craters on them.
Not into the development thing myself for the reasons you mentioned; it really kills future rookie picks
That is true, but the future Devy picks take on big trade value. So the worst team that has the #1 rookie pick (e.g., for this year, Donald Brown) also gets the #1 Dev pick (which this year would be Dez Bryant). The two combined are more valuable (particlarly in trade value) than your typical 1.01 rookie pick in my opinion. So in a sense, the worst team can rebuild even faster in this format.
:moneybag: Was going to post this exact same response. Well said.
 
Final roster for anyone who cares...

Cutler, Jay DEN QB

Edwards, Trent BUF QB

Booker, Lorenzo PHI RB

Jackson, Brandon GBP RB

McGahee, Willis BAL RB

Norwood, Jerious ATL RB

Rice, Ray BAL RB

Slaton, Steve HOU RB

Thomas, Pierre NOS RB

Ware, Danny NYG RB

Arrington, Adrian NOS WR

Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR

Bryant, Antonio TBB WR

Gaffney, Jabar DEN WR

Henry, Chris CIN WR

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR

Rice, Sidney MIN WR

Williams, Reggie JAC WR

Fasano, Anthony MIA TE

Winslow, Kellen TBB TE

Folk, Nick DAL PK

Buccaneers, Tampa Bay TBB Def

Patriots, New England NEP Def

Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def

Taxi Squad

* LaFell, Brandon LSU WR - - 10.03

 
http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2009/o...=48525&O=17

By far the youngest dynasty team I've ever drafted after 8 rounds.

Brady, Tom NEP QB (Q) - 8 3.08

Brown, Donald IND RB ® - 6 6.05

Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB ® - 7 3.05

Wells, Chris ARI RB ® - 4 4.05

Avery, Donnie STL WR - 9 7.05

Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR - 8 2.05

Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR ® - 4 6.08

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR (P) - 7 2.08

Winslow, Kellen TBB TE - 8 8.08

 
http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2009/o...=48525&O=17

By far the youngest dynasty team I've ever drafted after 8 rounds.

Brady, Tom NEP QB (Q) - 8 3.08

Brown, Donald IND RB ® - 6 6.05

Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB ® - 7 3.05

Wells, Chris ARI RB ® - 4 4.05

Avery, Donnie STL WR - 9 7.05

Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR - 8 2.05

Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR ® - 4 6.08

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR (P) - 7 2.08

Winslow, Kellen TBB TE - 8 8.08
What exactly does this have to do with the draft this thread is based on?Way to leave something worse than when you found it.....not hard to expect that from you.

Actually, the most surprising part about your post is that someone was desperate enough to let you in their league. Either that or you snuck in under an alias. I heard that plan didn't go so well in a few other leagues. Get kicked out much, Peens?

 
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http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2009/o...=48525&O=17

By far the youngest dynasty team I've ever drafted after 8 rounds.

Brady, Tom NEP QB (Q) - 8 3.08

Brown, Donald IND RB ® - 6 6.05

Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB ® - 7 3.05

Wells, Chris ARI RB ® - 4 4.05

Avery, Donnie STL WR - 9 7.05

Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR - 8 2.05

Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR ® - 4 6.08

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR (P) - 7 2.08

Winslow, Kellen TBB TE - 8 8.08
What exactly does this have to do with the draft this thread is based on?Way to leave something worse than when you found it.....not hard to expect that from you.

Actually, the most surprising part about your post is that someone was desperate enough to let you in their league. Either that or you snuck in under an alias. I heard that plan didn't go so well in a few other leagues. Get kicked out much, Peens?
What are you talking about? what league did i get kicked out of? :goodposting:
 
http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2009/o...=48525&O=17

By far the youngest dynasty team I've ever drafted after 8 rounds.

Brady, Tom NEP QB (Q) - 8 3.08

Brown, Donald IND RB ® - 6 6.05

Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB ® - 7 3.05

Wells, Chris ARI RB ® - 4 4.05

Avery, Donnie STL WR - 9 7.05

Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR - 8 2.05

Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR ® - 4 6.08

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR (P) - 7 2.08

Winslow, Kellen TBB TE - 8 8.08
What exactly does this have to do with the draft this thread is based on?Way to leave something worse than when you found it.....not hard to expect that from you.

Actually, the most surprising part about your post is that someone was desperate enough to let you in their league. Either that or you snuck in under an alias. I heard that plan didn't go so well in a few other leagues. Get kicked out much, Peens?
What are you talking about? what league did i get kicked out of? :goodposting:
I heard of a couple of startups you "snuck into", only to be kicked out before they started drafting when they learned your real identity.I know of at least 3 leagues you "left" this offseason. Kind of like when your job gives you the option to resign instead of being fired, hth tia.

You have quite the reputation.

 
http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2009/o...=48525&O=17

By far the youngest dynasty team I've ever drafted after 8 rounds.

Brady, Tom NEP QB (Q) - 8 3.08

Brown, Donald IND RB ® - 6 6.05

Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB ® - 7 3.05

Wells, Chris ARI RB ® - 4 4.05

Avery, Donnie STL WR - 9 7.05

Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR - 8 2.05

Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR ® - 4 6.08

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR (P) - 7 2.08

Winslow, Kellen TBB TE - 8 8.08
What exactly does this have to do with the draft this thread is based on?Way to leave something worse than when you found it.....not hard to expect that from you.

Actually, the most surprising part about your post is that someone was desperate enough to let you in their league. Either that or you snuck in under an alias. I heard that plan didn't go so well in a few other leagues. Get kicked out much, Peens?
What are you talking about? what league did i get kicked out of? :rolleyes:
I heard of a couple of startups you "snuck into", only to be kicked out before they started drafting when they learned your real identity.I know of at least 3 leagues you "left" this offseason. Kind of like when your job gives you the option to resign instead of being fired, hth tia.

You have quite the reputation.
I didnt have to leave any of these leagues, that was totally up to me. Lets try to stay on topic with startup dynasty drafts. :goodposting:
 
http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2009/o...=48525&O=17

By far the youngest dynasty team I've ever drafted after 8 rounds.

Brady, Tom NEP QB (Q) - 8 3.08

Brown, Donald IND RB ® - 6 6.05

Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB ® - 7 3.05

Wells, Chris ARI RB ® - 4 4.05

Avery, Donnie STL WR - 9 7.05

Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR - 8 2.05

Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR ® - 4 6.08

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR (P) - 7 2.08

Winslow, Kellen TBB TE - 8 8.08
What exactly does this have to do with the draft this thread is based on?Way to leave something worse than when you found it.....not hard to expect that from you.

Actually, the most surprising part about your post is that someone was desperate enough to let you in their league. Either that or you snuck in under an alias. I heard that plan didn't go so well in a few other leagues. Get kicked out much, Peens?
What are you talking about? what league did i get kicked out of? :rolleyes:
I heard of a couple of startups you "snuck into", only to be kicked out before they started drafting when they learned your real identity.I know of at least 3 leagues you "left" this offseason. Kind of like when your job gives you the option to resign instead of being fired, hth tia.

You have quite the reputation.
I didnt have to leave any of these leagues, that was totally up to me. Lets try to stay on topic with startup dynasty drafts. :goodposting:
The thread is based on a SPECIFIC dynasty draft that was ongoing. HTH TIA.
 
A word of caution to anyone that uses the developmental players in their league. I've done those before and they can be a lot of fun but you need a good core group of owners committed to the league long term, even more so than normal leagues. The reason is that you are adding a year to 2 years to any team that needs to rebuild since a large percentage of the best college players are already spoken for. This can make it even harder to find replacement owners or have owners stick around if their team craters on them.
Not into the development thing myself for the reasons you mentioned; it really kills future rookie picks
That is true, but the future Devy picks take on big trade value. So the worst team that has the #1 rookie pick (e.g., for this year, Donald Brown) also gets the #1 Dev pick (which this year would be Dez Bryant). The two combined are more valuable (particlarly in trade value) than your typical 1.01 rookie pick in my opinion. So in a sense, the worst team can rebuild even faster in this format.
Somebody's search has indicated this Ernol character may be the tool who invented the awful term "devy."

 

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