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Tim Tebow - 8.17.21 Waived By Jacksonville (2 Viewers)

There goes Moreno's value out the door.

No goal line carries.

8 men in the box

Tebow running on 2 of every three plays.

Excellent!

 
I want to be clear. Tebow is not definitely starting.... yet. But it doesn't look good for Orton.

Heard a report on Sirius NFL radio that he has torn rib cartilage or something. I don't see any upside to Denver playing him.

 
Raider Nation said:
Good chance we see Jesus start this week. Orton is very banged up and hasn't practiced.

Watching Tebow try to complete a pass from the pocket against Nnamdi should be humorous if nothing else.
What makes you think he'll try to complete a pass against Nnamdi? My guess is, if he does get the start, he will be strongly advised not to even look Nnamdi's way. That's one less read that he has to make, and the goal should be to make the offense and necessary progressions on any given play as basic as possible for a rookie QB starting his first game.
 
So maybe there was actually something to this whole "Josh McDaniels is an offensive genius" stuff. For the time he was there, Orton enjoyed pretty much the only studdom of his career, then he's shown the door and suddenly that super explosive Broncos offense is completely pathetic.

Orton's last two games..

9-28 (32%) 117yds 0 TDs 0 INT

19-41 (46%) 166yds 0 TDs 3 INT

:loco:

 
Tebow dynasty owner :shrug:
Must be pretty disappointed, since I'm pretty sure Josh McDaniels was the only guy in the NFL that thought Tebow had a shot at QBing a team.
Are you saying Tebow would have been undrafted if Denver didn't trade up to get him? I'm not convinced Tebow will amount to a good starting QB, but there is no way he wouldn't have been drafted as a project within the first 3 rounds.
 
So maybe there was actually something to this whole "Josh McDaniels is an offensive genius" stuff. For the time he was there, Orton enjoyed pretty much the only studdom of his career, then he's shown the door and suddenly that super explosive Broncos offense is completely pathetic.Orton's last two games..9-28 (32%) 117yds 0 TDs 0 INT19-41 (46%) 166yds 0 TDs 3 INT :lmao:
Denver really screwed up. They let this young offensive coach blow up their team and refill it with his own personnel, the new team puts up huge offensive numbers, then they fire him halfway through his second season. Now all of the personnel is geared towards a system that doesn't exist.
 
He can't do much worse than Orton has the past weeks, at least I don't see the bashing that Oak gave them earlier to be that bad this time around. I think if Tebow goes the Offensive gameplan will be very much ball control short passes and designed runs, roll outs. I think he might surprise people.
I am playing Oakland Defense, but what you say makes me think that they won't be as good this week as I thought. Odds of an INT or sack on a short pass or designed run is much smaller than Orton back in the pocket throwing long and missing. Hmmmm.
 
So maybe there was actually something to this whole "Josh McDaniels is an offensive genius" stuff. For the time he was there, Orton enjoyed pretty much the only studdom of his career, then he's shown the door and suddenly that super explosive Broncos offense is completely pathetic.Orton's last two games..9-28 (32%) 117yds 0 TDs 0 INT19-41 (46%) 166yds 0 TDs 3 INT :X
Denver really screwed up. They let this young offensive coach blow up their team and refill it with his own personnel, the new team puts up huge offensive numbers, then they fire him halfway through his second season. Now all of the personnel is geared towards a system that doesn't exist.
yep, totally agree with you. their offense was putting up points, but their defense couldn't stop anywhere, so the front office fires the HC who is also instrumental in the running of the offense... brillant...
 
Starting Oakland D this week... was cautiously optimistic before this news. I'm borderline ecstatic after hearing it. IMO OAK-D is lined up for a top 5 week.

 
Great. Gotta hope Cassel plays or I'll have to pick up a QB and he's likely the only option left out there in my league. :thumbup:

 
I wouldn't be suprised if Tebow throws a pick 6 early in the game, and then leads them on several long touchdown drives and victory.

 
I think there's going to be a lot of surprised people after this game. And there will be some crow to be eaten.
It's tempting to put him in your fantasy lineup, isn't it? I could easily envision a stat line that would make him a decent play:10-23, 110 yards, 0TD, 2 INT, 6 rush, 45 yards, 1 TDYou could do worse from a fantasy perspective.
 
back-up QBs get very little practice running their team's offense... they usually run the scout team... so I expect Tebow to be unprepared to run Denver's offense... unless it's extremely pared down... great match up for the raiders...

 
Actually, if Tebow has a decent game against the Raiders (not blowing the doors off from a fantasy perspective, just playing a relatively sound offensive game from an NFL perspective) then there are plausible scenarios where he could be playing for someone's FF championship game in Week 16 against Houston.

As noted above, a mediocre (or even below mediocre) passing performance coupled with solid rushing yards and a rush TD could make a him a decent fill-in for any championship team in QB woe due to injuries. And, frankly, that type of game would be very possible against Houston.

Just sayin'.

 
It's "baby Jesus", and they ought to modify the helmet logo to that dragontale like logo that the Tebo groupies are all lathering over.
Did the same criteria apply to the "minister" Reggie White ... who was about as hardcore a JESUS freak as there was? ... or does this invective just get reserved for the the likes of Tebow/Warner? :shrug:
 
It's "baby Jesus", and they ought to modify the helmet logo to that dragontale like logo that the Tebo groupies are all lathering over.
Did the same criteria apply to the "minister" Reggie White ... who was about as hardcore a JESUS freak as there was? ... or does this invective just get reserved for the the likes of Tebow/Warner? :whistle:
You never hear a word about guys like Kitna or Brunell who are every bit the Jesus fans that Tebow is. Obviously there's probably many, many more in the NFL.
 
It's "baby Jesus", and they ought to modify the helmet logo to that dragontale like logo that the Tebo groupies are all lathering over.
Did the same criteria apply to the "minister" Reggie White ... who was about as hardcore a JESUS freak as there was? ... or does this invective just get reserved for the the likes of Tebow/Warner? :blackdot:
You never hear a word about guys like Kitna or Brunell who are every bit the Jesus fans that Tebow is. Obviously there's probably many, many more in the NFL.
.... funny how you mentioned only two more white qb's ... proving my point, to a certain extent ...
 
It's "baby Jesus", and they ought to modify the helmet logo to that dragontale like logo that the Tebo groupies are all lathering over.
Did the same criteria apply to the "minister" Reggie White ... who was about as hardcore a JESUS freak as there was? ... or does this invective just get reserved for the the likes of Tebow/Warner? :blackdot:
You never hear a word about guys like Kitna or Brunell who are every bit the Jesus fans that Tebow is. Obviously there's probably many, many more in the NFL.
.... funny how you mentioned only two more white qb's ... proving my point, to a certain extent ...
I guess I didn't understand the point.
 
Raider Nation said:
gianmarco said:
I think there's going to be a lot of surprised people after this game. And there will be some crow to be eaten.
Negative.
:goodposting:
:coffee: Wild guess here.... you're not watching the game?

He looks fairly terrible if you want to know the truth. Nice TD run, but we knew he could run. Eventually, a QB will need to, you know.... throw the ball. His TD pass was 100% luck. Never should have been thrown, and it should have been picked off, and it was a miracle catch. Other than all that, he looks fantastic.

 
Raider Nation said:
gianmarco said:
I think there's going to be a lot of surprised people after this game. And there will be some crow to be eaten.
Negative.
:blackdot:
:rant: Wild guess here.... you're not watching the game?

He looks fairly terrible if you want to know the truth. Nice TD run, but we knew he could run. Eventually, a QB will need to, you know.... throw the ball. His TD pass was 100% luck. Never should have been thrown, and it should have been picked off, and it was a miracle catch. Other than all that, he looks fantastic.
There is a lot of blind tebow lovers in here.
 
Raider Nation said:
gianmarco said:
I think there's going to be a lot of surprised people after this game. And there will be some crow to be eaten.
Negative.
:blackdot:
:rant: Wild guess here.... you're not watching the game?

He looks fairly terrible if you want to know the truth. Nice TD run, but we knew he could run. Eventually, a QB will need to, you know.... throw the ball. His TD pass was 100% luck. Never should have been thrown, and it should have been picked off, and it was a miracle catch. Other than all that, he looks fantastic.
What is funny if Brady or P Manning had thrown that pass. Everyone would say it was the perfect past just over the DB and right in a spot where the WR could catch it. But because it is Tebow it is a Lucky pass???
 
Raider Nation said:
gianmarco said:
I think there's going to be a lot of surprised people after this game. And there will be some crow to be eaten.
Negative.
:loco:
:blackdot: Wild guess here.... you're not watching the game?

He looks fairly terrible if you want to know the truth. Nice TD run, but we knew he could run. Eventually, a QB will need to, you know.... throw the ball. His TD pass was 100% luck. Never should have been thrown, and it should have been picked off, and it was a miracle catch. Other than all that, he looks fantastic.
What is funny if Brady or P Manning had thrown that pass. Everyone would say it was the perfect pass just over the DB and right in a spot where the WR could catch it.
No they wouldn't.
 
Raider Nation said:
gianmarco said:
I think there's going to be a lot of surprised people after this game. And there will be some crow to be eaten.
Negative.
:hot:
:P Wild guess here.... you're not watching the game?

He looks fairly terrible if you want to know the truth. Nice TD run, but we knew he could run. Eventually, a QB will need to, you know.... throw the ball. His TD pass was 100% luck. Never should have been thrown, and it should have been picked off, and it was a miracle catch. Other than all that, he looks fantastic.
In all unbridled honesty here, I will never, ever take anything you say seriously again. If you are so determined to convince yourself that you were right about something that you are willing to call this good performance today "terrible", then how can anyone trust anything you ever say on here?Tebow is averaging 10 yards per attempt today with a TD and no picks. His QB rating in the game right now is 107. And all this is not even taking into account the dropped 35 yard TD that he put on the money, or the fact that he's typically only being allowed to pass in obvious passing situations where the defense knows it's coming.

Even further, just from watching him, he's making the throws that people that never watching him play like yourself said he would never be able to make. People said he couldn't make the NFL throws, but that 25 yard deep out that he threw on a laser hitting Brandon Lloyd right in the chest right as he came out of his break is pretty much the epitome of a bigtime NFL throw that people said he couldn't do. And then running, people said he'd be too slow compared to NFL players, but he blew by several on that 46 yard TD run. They said that NFL linebackers would destroy him and he wouldn't be able to muscle them around, but he's carried guys forward every time he's run it.

Trying to spin this game as terrible when the absolute *ONLY* reason the Broncos even had a shot in this game was Tebow is absurd. The running backs have 26 carries for 30 freaking yards. The defense has given up 30+ points despite not being put in bad situations by turnovers. And of course, the offensive playcalling has been so unimaginative and predictable that you or I could have called plays on defense that should have shut this team out.

There is little difference between your posts today and LHucks saying "conference of champions" in trying to argue that his preseason predictions were right on the money.

 
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Raider Nation said:
gianmarco said:
I think there's going to be a lot of surprised people after this game. And there will be some crow to be eaten.
Negative.
:hot:
:P Wild guess here.... you're not watching the game?

He looks fairly terrible if you want to know the truth. Nice TD run, but we knew he could run. Eventually, a QB will need to, you know.... throw the ball. His TD pass was 100% luck. Never should have been thrown, and it should have been picked off, and it was a miracle catch. Other than all that, he looks fantastic.
In all unbridled honesty here, I will never, ever take anything you say seriously again. If you are so determined to convince yourself that you were right about something that you are willing to call this good performance today "terrible", then how can anyone trust anything you ever say on here?
Save your crying and put me on ignore. Problem solved.If you told me that was your RB filling in at QB, I'd say he did a pretty good job. If you think he's your QB of the future, good luck.

P.S. Your three running backs combined for 28 yards on 25 carries. Would you like to know why?

 
I am one who thinks Tebow will not succeed as a qb, but this was far from a horrible game. It was his first start. And it was not horrible.

You do not have to be a great passer (or even a good one) if you have wheels (See Duante Culpepper, Michael Vick (ATL version). One of the reasons I was so down on Tebow was that not only was I not impressed with his passing ability, I projected that he would not be able to run against better athletes. This game has shown that to be false. He had some very nice runs.

But when you ask him to win games with his arm, the 4th quarter is not a good sign. But . . . it is his first game. Interested to see how he does the next couple.

 

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