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Very true. Looking forward to watching the bowl game after catching pieces of the Tulsa game. I think the main point on Smith right now is that there are generally 3 tiers of rookie running backs: 3-4 Can't Miss guys; 5-6 Decent Chance guys; and 7-10 Long Shot guys. I think it's probably safe to move Smith from Long Shot to Decent Chance.
Yea, I'll agree with that.
It's going to be hard to justify ranking anyone else 1.01 for rookie drafts, but if I had the top pick I think I would try to sell the "McFadden = Peterson" line to an eager buyer and pop back into the 1.02 or 1.03 spot to take Stewart or Jones. My personal top 5 RBs (read: where I would take them, not where they'll be drafted) looks something like this right now:1. McFadden - A weak #1. I'm not in love with what I've seen from him, but it's hard to ignore the production in the SEC and the fact that everyone and their brother has him rated as the best RB available. They can't all be wrong...right?2. Stewart - Not as flashy as Felix Jones, but could be a stud in the right system and looks like he is a very safe bet to become a long-term starting RB in the NFL. 3. Jones - I really like his burst of speed and his shiftiness. He changes directions very smoothly, which is an important skill for a RB to have. I won't be the least bit surprised if he ends up becoming the best RB from this class. He has exciting potential. 4. Mendenhall - Passes the eyeball test and has had a very good season. Looks to have pretty good pro potential and has a diverse enough skill set to be an every-down back. My only concern is that I sometimes get the impression that his instincts are below average. 5. Rice - Doesn't have the best combine numbers of this year's group, but he's just a football player. He looks like an NFL back to me. If he weighs in at 205-215 pounds and puts up remotely good numbers in his workouts then I'll be optimistic about his chances of becoming a starter in the NFL.
Of the attempts of camparison, that's one of the better ones. McFadden probably has more straighline speed, but Allen had an upright style and diverse skills.
i will be going rb in both of them(god my rb's suck!). now to see who comes out & who goes where.
Yep. "Marcus Allen with jets", that's what I called him at the beginning of the season in some thread around here. I'm not at all concerned about his build, but then I wasn't worried about Reggie either and he has struggled.
I would hope this isn't the case, but perhpas he or his representative saw potential to climb higher next year since this year's class is relatively top-heavy and/or deep (depending on how you look at it).But in my opinion, his value will never be higher. Another season of nearly 300 touches could hurt his stock just based on the workload... plus I don't think he can out-do himself statistically. He could try to improve his 40 time (which might be his biggest weakness), but I don't think he'll be more than a 2nd Rounder this or next year based on that weakness in his game. Certainly with the unknown factor working for him now, another season- potentially less inspiring than this one- could drop him to a middle-tier or even second-day RB.
I am pretty sure I saw somewhere that his evaluation placed him in the 2nd-4th rounds. He is taking the calculated gamble that he acan improve on his weaknesses and that he starts next season at or near the top of the RB pecking order versus a guy who is going to get drafted.
He could get drafted in the third round, but I think it's his special teams potential that intrigues teams as much as his running skills. Similar to Yamon Figurs in that regard (Figurs offers very little as WR, but was drafted in the third round because of his return skills).
http://www.jetsinsider.com/news.php?storyid=2250
So he says. It's not official yet. The article coolnerd posted above says scouts expect Smith to declare.
While I agree that Hart and Rice don't have the measurables, they will go a little earlier than you seem to be projecting because they ARE good football players. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Pats skip on the 1st round RB and get Rice in the 2nd. Speed is big, but it's not everything. Ask Anquan and Jerry. Hart isn't big, fast or quick. He is too small, too slow and TOO TOUGH. Hart would surprise me if he ever had many starts in the NFL, but he is probably as good as Hunt, maybe better. You want guys like these with top measurables, but when you are comparing warts to blemishes, I'll take the football player anyday.
I agree with your general point about taking football players first and athletes second, but RB is a position that requires a very specific set of physical skills. Even the scrappiest, most instinctive players face VERY tough odds if they don't have those skills. That said, I agree that Rice could go in the 2nd. He's shifty and fairly strong. He would be a first round prospect if he was a little bit bigger and faster. I think he has a chance to be a pretty good player in the NFL. Will he be a starter? Tough to say. It's possible. As for Hart, I think the 3rd round is the earliest we could see him come off the board. He just doesn't stack up physically. He is going to get devoured by the bigger and faster defenses in the NFL.
Completely agree. I do see Hart's ceiling being W.Dunn, as I see an almost perfect clone. Hart would have to impress the #### out of me though to concider him as tough as Dunn. Small, not fast, not quick RB who excells between the tackles. He seems to understand that north and south running is the only way to offset his lack of speed. He's not afraid of bigger guys and the pile seems to move in Hart's direction more often than not. I see him being a late 3rd-late 4th pick who could exceed expectations (closer to the T.Hunt than the W.Dunn comparisons).
Hart is a little bit heavier, but Dunn is very strong for his size. More importantly, Dunn is a lot quicker and more explosive. That's why he's able to survive at the next level.
It's not a terrible one, but I think he's closer to Frank Gore.
Do you guys see QBs Brohm, Woodson & Ryan as all 1st rounders?
Agreed. He's probably going to be a fringe first day/early second day guy. And he'll probably leapfrog a couple of the guys in that tier with his combine performance. He won't run a blazing 40 time, but I expect him to put forth a pretty decent overall workout.
Evaluating QBs really isn't my specialty and I haven't done my homework on these guys, but it seems pretty likely that all three of them will be first round picks.
I think all 3 QBs will be 1st rounders, with 2 of them being top 10 selections. As far as fantasy drafts, I could see at least one of them sliding to the early 2nd of 12 team rookie drafts.
If the normal pattern continues with QBs all will be drafted in the top half of the first round, but argubly none of them are sure enough things to warrant selection there. The most likely to drop is Woodson. Rumor has had Delaware's Joe Flacco as this years potential late riser and that some scouts rank him over Woodson, but none of the usual online draftsperts have been bold enough to make that type switch. One thing that could drop these guys some is that this year has a good handful of 2nd teir QBs that should go in the 2nd-4th rounds. John David Booty, Dennis Dixon, Eric Ainge, and Colt Brennen are names to watch along with the aforementioned Flacco.
Stewart has the ability to be really special at the next level. I think with an excellent combine/pro-day he will solidify his place in the first round. I also agree with you that he may be 1b when it comes to talent between he and McFadden. It's my belief that McFadden will need to go to the right system to reach his potential where Stewart could go to just about any system and reach his.My top 51a. McFadden1b. Stewart3. F. Jones4. Mendenhall5. Slaton
Thx this guy is now on my board.
