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Is Nicks now just a mediocre fantasy WR? (1 Viewer)

ghostguy123 said:
A lot of people seem to think Wayne is just going to roll out there and do what he has always done..............color me not so confident in that, not coming off major injury in less than a year at his age.
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Im also not confident that Nicks is just going to flip a switch an be an elite level WR going forward either.

He seems to have been doggin it for quiet awhile

 
Rotoworld:

Beat writer Dan Graziano says it seemed clear that Hakeem Nicks "chief motivation" last season "was to stay healthy so that he could cash in as a free agent."
The Colts are hoping that Nicks' effectiveness was sapped by his mind, not an accumulation of lower-body injuries. He posted a 56-896-0 line, reportedly frustrating coaches with his inability to get open and make plays. The other concern is that 26-year-old Nicks is now operating on a one-year deal once again, leaving Graziano to wonder if he'll tip-toe through another season. There are a lot of yellow flags here despite Nicks' natural talent and the presence of Andrew Luck.

Source: ESPN New York
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Rotoworld:

Hakeem Nicks - WR - Colts

OC Pep Hamilton said he doesn't know if he can say that he's "seen enough" from Hakeem Nicks so far.

"I think he is still working to get himself in game shape," Hamilton added. It's not a good look for Nicks, who earned motivation questions over the last couple years in New York and is now on a one-year deal. According to the Colts blog Stampede Blue, Nicks is operating as an outside receiver in three-wide sets only -- a formation the Colts are not expected to use very much this year as they install "12" as their base. T.Y. Hilton and Reggie Wayne are the starters.

Related: T.Y. Hilton, Reggie Wayne

Source: Tom James on Twitter

Aug 3 - 10:17 AM
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I know it's jumping the gun, but with a slate of injuries longer than Aaron Hernandez rap sheet, would it really shock anyone if Nicks was a surprise camp cut?

He's had all offseason to get in shape and playing on a one year "prove-it" deal. You'd think he'd be highly motivated. He's only 26, but looks like he's cashing out one more paycheck instead of fighting for his career.

 
It doesn't sound like he'll be involved too much this year, barring injury. He's only in on 3 wide sets that aren't utilized too much. This, combined with his poor conditioning, has me considering outright dropping him in dynasty. It seems injuries and laziness have sapped him.

 
jurb26 said:
ghostguy123 said:
A lot of people seem to think Wayne is just going to roll out there and do what he has always done..............color me not so confident in that, not coming off major injury in less than a year at his age.
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Agreed. Wayne is 35 years old turning 36 durning the season. To think he is going to come back to form is overly optimistic and down right crazy IMO. While still effective last year, it was clear he was slowing down. I think that slow down gets magnified this year because of Father Time and the injury recovery. The body simply doesn't heal as quickly when you get older. That's not to say he can't still play a solid role in the offense. I just think the optimism level is a bit crazy with him.
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Every year there are people that make this kind of mistake. Not saying it WILL be a mistake in Wayne's particular case but I'm guessing it will.

You have a guy that was literally the most durable WR in the league for a decade. Never missed a single game after his rookie season. He hasn't been dependent of speed in years. He is about smarts and technician and hands. Has been for years. An ACL probably affects that the least in comparison to a guy that is quick reflexes, shifting, speeding down the field.

So that's the known. We also know that ACL injuries are not the end of careers like they were years ago. There are many, many players with ACL injuries. Multiples, even. In fact, I think Thomas Davis, who is 31, has had three and had a terrific year last year. So, really, this just comes down to age and the tendency for people to write players off at a certain age, knowing that one of these years they will be right.

But here's the thing: People have been writing Wayne off for about 4 years now and it's been clear: they aren't really watching Wayne and don't really understand what he is on this Colts team.

Now, his knee could do him in. But I'll tell you right now, that is the only thing that is going to do it. If all the reports about how well he has recovered are lies and his knee is still and issue or re-breaks, then you have something. But if he has recovered from his knee injury, just like many other NFL players have in the past, then you will miss the boat.

I posted my thoughts on a stat line somewhere in this thread. I admit, I'm not the greatest at it and don't do it often. But then someone said it was a crazy stat prediction so I went and looked at what he has actually done and also what a dozen or so fantasy site predictors were saying and, to my surprise, I was actually on the low side. So I will defer to the "experts" of ff projections but I know now that my thinking is in the same vein as those who do this type of thing and not just saying "knee injury plus age=dead".

I think Wayne could be a real value compared to where he is being drafted.

 
Rotoworld:

Hakeem Nicks - WR - Colts

Hakeem Nicks insists he's all aboard for 2014.

Nicks has drawn lackluster reviews for his camp performance, with OC Pep Hamilton recently saying he hasn't seen enough from his veteran wideout. "My mentality is I'm shooting to be the best in the league at my position this year," Nicks said. "I'm not trying to make headlines. ... Once you put the team first, everything else falls into place." Currently running as the No. 3 wideout behind Reggie Wayne and T.Y. Hilton, we're growing ever-more skeptical Nicks will make a fantasy impact this season.

Source: Josina Anderson on Twitter

Aug 7 - 2:36 PM
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Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Hakeem Nicks - WR - Colts

Hakeem Nicks insists he's all aboard for 2014.

Nicks has drawn lackluster reviews for his camp performance, with OC Pep Hamilton recently saying he hasn't seen enough from his veteran wideout. "My mentality is I'm shooting to be the best in the league at my position this year," Nicks said. "I'm not trying to make headlines. ... Once you put the team first, everything else falls into place." Currently running as the No. 3 wideout behind Reggie Wayne and T.Y. Hilton, we're growing ever-more skeptical Nicks will make a fantasy impact this season.

Source: Josina Anderson on Twitter

Aug 7 - 2:36 PM
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This mirrors what I have been hearing as well (lackluster reviews). The one outlier was the Footballguys 8/06/14 Camp Update, which spoke well of Nicks:

"Hakeem Nicks is running with the first team, and has made several big catches. Nicks and Luck seem to be developing a nice chemistry, which is important for a new arrival. The former Giants’ star appears to be in line for a starting gig with the Colts this season."

Where does that come from??

 
It seems like he falls further all the time. Hard to believe he was the next big thing at one point. I question whether he'll even be rosterable in dynasty leagues in the not so distant future.

 
Ketamine Dreams said:
It seems like he falls further all the time. Hard to believe he was the next big thing at one point. I question whether he'll even be rosterable in dynasty leagues in the not so distant future.
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Unfortunately you may be right, injuries and work ethic have put a cap on Nicks' upside. don't view him as close to unrosterable yet, but I think his best days are well behind him.

 
....and if he goes something like 3/50/1 in Week 1 with Luck, everyone will be writing about his re-birth in a high-octane offense, etc, etc.

Until we see him play in that Indy offense, there will be no way of knowing.

 
Rotoworld:

The Indianapolis Star reports Hakeem Nicks has been dealing with some "nagging pains" in training camp.

Reporter Stephen Holder labeled Nicks as someone to watch in Thursday's preseason opener because he's looked "pretty average" in camp. Holder's report comes the same day Nicks claimed he was in the best shape of his life. Nicks is only 26, but has suffered countless lower-leg injuries. Fantasy players shouldn't be counting on him returning to his early-career form.

Source: Stephen Holder on Twitter

Aug 7 - 6:23 PM
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With Reggie Wayne resting, Hakeem Nicks ran with the Colts' first-team offense in Thursday night's preseason opener against the Jets.

The Jets' vanilla defense gave Nicks a ton of cushion, which he exploited for a 15-yard catch down the right sideline, in front of CB Dimitri Patterson. With Wayne in street clothes -- he's healthy, just being "limited" in August -- Nicks and T.Y. Hilton were Indianapolis' first-team receivers on Thursday. Nicks appears to be the No. 3 for now, ahead of rookie Donte Moncrief. Nicks could conceivably help the Colts' 2014 offense as a perimeter threat, but we're not particularly optimistic that he'll help fantasy owners.

Aug 7 - 8:25 PM
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Rotoworld:

With T.Y. Hilton and Reggie Wayne resting, Hakeem Nicks started Saturday night's second preseason game opposite rookie Donte Moncrief and secured 5-of-5 targets for 53 yards.

Nicks was highly active, catching three balls for 28 yards on Indy's opening drive to set up an Andrew Luck touchdown toss to Griff Whalen. Nicks still struggles to create after the catch, but he's going to see a lot more single coverage in Indianapolis than he ever did with the Giants, and still looks capable of being a quality role player on the perimeter. Nicks did commit an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on the Colts' second drive, drawing the ire of coach Chuck Pagano. He "taunted" Giants CB Prince Amukamara by waving his finger at him. The flag negated a 35-yard gain, which would've brought Nicks' totals to 6-88 on the night.

Aug 16 - 8:22 PM
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The play that was called back was a real nice play by Nicks. I may be wrong, but I think it was friendly playing around with his former teammates. Nicks was taking pictures with some of the Giants players before the game so I don't think there's any bad blood between Nicks and the Giants players. I understand the need for throwing the flag, but the coach shouldn't be pissed about it since it wouldn't happen in a regular season game anyways.

Besides that, Nicks has looked pretty decent in the preseason. Before camp started I thought Nicks was going to be a great grab in the late rounds this year, but after all the reports of him underwhelming I wasn't so sure. He has a great opportunity here and if he can get his head on straight then I still think he can be great again. I just don't know what to think of him in redraft.

 
steveski said:
The play that was called back was a real nice play by Nicks. I may be wrong, but I think it was friendly playing around with his former teammates. Nicks was taking pictures with some of the Giants players before the game so I don't think there's any bad blood between Nicks and the Giants players. I understand the need for throwing the flag, but the coach shouldn't be pissed about it since it wouldn't happen in a regular season game anyways.

Besides that, Nicks has looked pretty decent in the preseason. Before camp started I thought Nicks was going to be a great grab in the late rounds this year, but after all the reports of him underwhelming I wasn't so sure. He has a great opportunity here and if he can get his head on straight then I still think he can be great again. I just don't know what to think of him in redraft.
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Nicks was the best WR on the field last night ...and by a lot.

 
monk said:
steveski said:
The play that was called back was a real nice play by Nicks. I may be wrong, but I think it was friendly playing around with his former teammates. Nicks was taking pictures with some of the Giants players before the game so I don't think there's any bad blood between Nicks and the Giants players. I understand the need for throwing the flag, but the coach shouldn't be pissed about it since it wouldn't happen in a regular season game anyways.

Besides that, Nicks has looked pretty decent in the preseason. Before camp started I thought Nicks was going to be a great grab in the late rounds this year, but after all the reports of him underwhelming I wasn't so sure. He has a great opportunity here and if he can get his head on straight then I still think he can be great again. I just don't know what to think of him in redraft.
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Nicks was the best WR on the field last night ...and by a lot.
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What will he do when Hilton and Wayne are playing? That's the question.

 
monk said:
steveski said:
The play that was called back was a real nice play by Nicks. I may be wrong, but I think it was friendly playing around with his former teammates. Nicks was taking pictures with some of the Giants players before the game so I don't think there's any bad blood between Nicks and the Giants players. I understand the need for throwing the flag, but the coach shouldn't be pissed about it since it wouldn't happen in a regular season game anyways.

Besides that, Nicks has looked pretty decent in the preseason. Before camp started I thought Nicks was going to be a great grab in the late rounds this year, but after all the reports of him underwhelming I wasn't so sure. He has a great opportunity here and if he can get his head on straight then I still think he can be great again. I just don't know what to think of him in redraft.
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Nicks was the best WR on the field last night ...and by a lot.
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Problem was the other two WRs for the Colts weren't there.
 
Rotoworld:

The Indy Star says Hakeem Nicks is frustrated with his role this season.

It's not a surprise. Nicks signed a one-year "prove it" deal with the Colts in March, but he's right where he belongs -- buried on the target totem pole behind stud playmaker T.Y. Hilton and third-down chain-mover Reggie Wayne. Nicks would do well not to complain publicly and then try to rehab his value in 2015.

Source: Indianapolis Star

Oct 14 - 12:00 PM
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Faust said:
Rotoworld:

The Indy Star says Hakeem Nicks is frustrated with his role this season.

It's not a surprise. Nicks signed a one-year "prove it" deal with the Colts in March, but he's right where he belongs -- buried on the target totem pole behind stud playmaker T.Y. Hilton and third-down chain-mover Reggie Wayne. Nicks would do well not to complain publicly and then try to rehab his value in 2015.

Source: Indianapolis Star

Oct 14 - 12:00 PM
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Another great rw headline that completely changed what the link says.
 
I dropped him in dyno a few weeks ago, moving on. Talent-wise he should be kept, I think the problem has been attitude. He used to play aggressively and now it looks like he's taking a page out of the Chris Johnson handbook, minus the big payday. It's befuddling.

 
Does he start opposite TY this Sunday? Should we expect an uptick in targets? I am hurting at WR and just may take a flier on him.

 
John Paul said:
I dropped him in dyno a few weeks ago, moving on. Talent-wise he should be kept, I think the problem has been attitude. He used to play aggressively and now it looks like he's taking a page out of the Chris Johnson handbook, minus the big payday. It's befuddling.
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It sounds like you haven't watched him play recently. He can't get separation anymore and can't pull away from anyone. I don't know about his attitude but his body aged quickly.

 
Saw the title and thought this was the most disrespectful post Ive seen come through here in a while. How dare you disgrace the word mediocre like that!

 
voiceofunreason said:
Finally dropped him in the one dynasty league I still had him. Time to join Braylon Edwards on the beach.
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Good for you. If a guy cant carve out a role with the most exciting young quarterback in the league on a one year deal in the prime of your career I dont know what to tell you. Used to be a big Nicks guy but he just hasnt looked the same for a while now. Empty promises.
 
I just included him as a throw in...yes...Nicks is a throw in player. I threw him in to make the dollars more acceptable in a trade I pulled for Gio. It's a salary cap league. I have a feeling the guy I dealt him to is gonna drop him and take the cap hit. LOL! Better him than me!

 
LittlePhatty said:
Faust said:
Hakeem Nicks 'definitely' has extra in store for Giants
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Penciling in two receptions this week instead of one.
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I always hate player commnents like this because it basically suggests that the players COULD be doing more all the time but doesn't. Suggests to me a lack of internal "want to".

With that being said, you have to think Bradshaw and Nicks will both get opportunities to do something against their old teams. I think that is just part of it. Steve Smith sent his reminder to the Panthers. Bradshaw will probably do the same. THe COlts will probably at least try to give the opportunity to Nicks.

But at the end of the day, this is just delaying the inevitable. Nicks will be formally an afterthought of the starting lineup within a month.

 
Rotoworld:

ESPN Colts reporter Mike Wells suggests free agent Hakeem Nicks could re-sign as a No. 3 wideout behind T.Y. Hilton and Donte Moncrief.

After a second consecutive year of bad tape, Nicks is going to find a cold market. We'll see if he's willing to settle for a bargain-basement contract to be a third receiver on a team that wants to play two tight ends (Dwayne Allen, Coby Fleener) most of the time. The Colts paid Nicks $3.975M last season to go 38-405-4.

Source: ESPN.com
Jan 22 - 12:32 PM
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Faust said:
Rotoworld:

ESPN Colts reporter Mike Wells suggests free agent Hakeem Nicks could re-sign as a No. 3 wideout behind T.Y. Hilton and Donte Moncrief.

After a second consecutive year of bad tape, Nicks is going to find a cold market. We'll see if he's willing to settle for a bargain-basement contract to be a third receiver on a team that wants to play two tight ends (Dwayne Allen, Coby Fleener) most of the time. The Colts paid Nicks $3.975M last season to go 38-405-4.

Source: ESPN.com

Jan 22 - 12:32 PM
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It's time for Nicks to retire. It was embarrassing this year.

 
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Nicks averaged only 6.0 yards per target this year, which was last among Colts players with at least 25 targets.

YPT Player

10.3 T.Y. Hilton
9.1 Donte Moncrief
8.4 Coby Fleener
7.9 Dwayne Allen
6.7 Trent Richardson
6.7 Reggie Wayne
6.7 Dan Herron
6.4 Ahmad Bradshaw
6.0 Hakeem Nicks

 
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