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Meltdown in Japan's Reactors (2 Viewers)

Parrothead said:
was at an OSHA training class a few weeks back and our instructor went on a rant about this and how he used to work for nuclear plants blah blah blah and that this has the potential to be an extinction level event..

and he was dead serious :scared:
Extinction level event for the world, or for Japan?
the world of course.. according to our instructor
Does this mean I can stop paying my bills?
I already did.. :suds:

 
Parrothead said:
was at an OSHA training class a few weeks back and our instructor went on a rant about this and how he used to work for nuclear plants blah blah blah and that this has the potential to be an extinction level event..

and he was dead serious :scared:
Safety guys are their own breed.
yep.. the instructor was telling us how he has been in nuclear plants all across the world and this has the potential to be the worst accident ever.. drama queen
Well..it does? He's a drama queen for saying that it's an extinction level event, not for saying it could be the worst accident ever. They can't even contain this thing. If I lived on that side of Japan I'd be moving asap.

 
Parrothead said:
was at an OSHA training class a few weeks back and our instructor went on a rant about this and how he used to work for nuclear plants blah blah blah and that this has the potential to be an extinction level event..

and he was dead serious :scared:
Safety guys are their own breed.
yep.. the instructor was telling us how he has been in nuclear plants all across the world and this has the potential to be the worst accident ever.. drama queen
Well..it does? He's a drama queen for saying that it's an extinction level event, not for saying it could be the worst accident ever. They can't even contain this thing. If I lived on that side of Japan I'd be moving asap.
yeah, that's what I meant..

 
An odd tie in to this, the National Parks department has placed a moratorium on any running or cycling activities in Death Valley debating about how safe they are...on the surface. One of the theories out there is there were high radiation readings taken at various points in the area that were excessive causing the park manager to shut the racing down. The radiation being directly tied back to Fukushima. Nothing in print other than wacky theories but it was fun to follow on Facebook before it devolved into a i-pissing match.

http://running.competitor.com/2013/12/news/national-park-service-halts-badwater-race_91878

 
So...I'm drink and may extend my stay....should I be worried?
I've also been very drink and extended a vacation. Wait til the hangover is over. If you cant spell drunk, you shouldn't use credit cards or facebook (as I've learned the hard way)

 
Take the source and writer (former "Captain Kangaroo" writer) with a grain of salt, but this is a decent op/ed that debunks immediate fears of a meltdown based on last week's reports (page 2), but criticizes the institutional lack of truthfulness by Japanese and US governments. It also frames future risks without bending to conspiracies.

www.opednews.com/articles/Fukushima-Meltdowns-Globa-by-William-Boardman-Accident_Chernobyl_Chernobyl_Denial-140104-187.html
That doesn't make things sound very good. Maybe not tape up your windows and hide indoors bad, but it almost makes it seem virtually unavoidable that there's some seriously messed up stuff on the horizon.

 
So I live in the Midwest and have no idea this thing is still an issue. Since this thread has reached 43 pages, cliff notes anyone? TIA. Will answer yours.

 
From: http://www.naturalnews.com/043585_Fukushima_radiation_Pacific_Ocean_marine_science_organization.html#

International marine science organization releases report on radiation in Pacific Ocean

Monday, January 20, 2014 by: Thomas Henry

(NaturalNews) If you've heard about Fukushima radiation spreading to the Pacific Coast of North America but were "corrected" by sources both official and expert that this was based more on rumor than reality, then consider the information presented at the October 2013 North Pacific Marine Science Organization (PICES) annual meeting.

Researchers from Fisheries and Oceans Canada confirmed that the radioactive plume from Fukushima is indeed reaching the shores of Canada and the United States - and was detected at least six months ago - carried both in the ocean surface water and the atmosphere on similar but slightly different courses.

In a presentation titled "Communicating the forecasts, uncertainty and consequences of ecosystem change," (read here: http://www.pices.int) the Canadian researchers gave evidence that the bulk of radioactivity from Fukushima is shifting almost entirely from the western portion of the North Pacific (Japan) to the eastern portion (North America) over the course of the next five years. As of 2012, it had already reached the central region of the Pacific Ocean, and a previously unpublished map shows that, as of 2013, it had reached the shores of Alaska and British Columbia, with the most intense area of the plume yet to arrive.

The Fall 2013 discussion centered around competing calculations of the severity of effects from cesium-137, based around two differing models of the radiation's trajectory. The first, published by German researcher Erik Behrens and his colleagues at the Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research in 2012, drastically understates the potential dangers, predicting only modest levels of 2 becquerels per cubic meter (Bq/m^3) by 2015 for the 49th parallel near British Columbia and Washington state - scarcely above the background levels from the continued fallout of Chernobyl.

Meanwhile, the second, published by Vincent Rossi and other colleagues from the Climate Change Research Centre in 2013, presents a much more consequential picture. It predicts alarming maximum levels reaching 25 Bq/m^3 at their monitoring station in British Columbia by 2015 and peaks above 30 Bq/m^3. Cesium levels at the 30th parallel - reaching Baja California in Mexico - wouldn't peak until about 2019, though projected maximum levels would reach only about 15-20 Bq/m^3.

The amount of atmospheric cesium being transported across the ocean via winds remains the unknown yet potentially greater factor. It partially explains the drastic difference in projections, as there are no monitoring stations for airborne radiation in the Pacific and no reliable methods of predicting the scale of its effects. Further, it has only recently been publicly admitted that 300-400 tons of contaminated water have been pouring into the Pacific per day since the meltdown began in March 2011.

The fact is that the initial findings of radioactivity from Fukushima on the shores of Alaska, British Columbia, California and Mexico - confirmed privately within the scientific community months ago - are just the beginning. They are consistent with previous predictions of cesium-137 hitting the West Coast of the continental United States in late 2013 and early 2014. Scientists have acknowledged that it will continue to spread into the Arctic Ocean, reaching eastern Russia and eventually pouring into the Atlantic Ocean.

All models point to increased radiation from here on out. Just how bad it will get remains to be seen, but red flags were raised last week when health officials dismissed concerns about readings taken in San Francisco and posted on the Internet that showed levels as high as 150 counts-per-minute - about five times higher than normal background radiation levels.

Though public authorities continue to ignore warning signs - and refuse to inform the public about the scientific findings in order to quell panic - these radioactive nucleotides bioaccumulate in the food web, and in the human body, and should not be so handily dismissed.

Above normal levels were already detected in milk from the West Coast two years ago, tipping off the scientific community to the fact that rainwater, dairy, produce and meat supplies were already being hit with cesium-137, iodine-131 and possibly strontium-90. Bioaccumulation can greatly concentrate the amounts of radiation present in the environment, such that exposure to cesium through milk or meat - which aggregates the total amounts of radiation present in the water, grass, hay etc. consumed by the cow - could reach dangerous levels in humans.
 
Radiation and Cesium levels 168 times higher than the A-bomb at Hiroshima, but there nothing to worry about, all good

 
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Has anyone found a link from a reputable source on this, not something that shares a page with "ALIENS ABDUCTED MY BABY" stories?

 
It's like those bad headlines you see on FB all the time. "You won't believe what happens next!"

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Did you watch the VICE clip? If you don't know who they are you must be living under a rock, they are no BS investigative journalists. 168 times the radiation levels of Hiroshima, it's no joke.

 
It's like those bad headlines you see on FB all the time. "You won't believe what happens next!"

This Video Is Shocking The Entire World. Everyone Needs To See This!

Followed by: CLICK HERE TO SAVE UP TO $25 ON NRA MEMBERSHIP AND SUPPORT OUR WEBSITE
Did you watch the VICE clip? If you don't know who they are you must be living under a rock, they are no BS investigative journalists. 168 times the radiation levels of Hiroshima, it's no joke.
I'm saying their headline screams the "you won't believe what happens next" or "share this with all your friends" crap you see on FB. Nothing more, nothing to do with the content.

 
It's like those bad headlines you see on FB all the time. "You won't believe what happens next!"

This Video Is Shocking The Entire World. Everyone Needs To See This!

Followed by: CLICK HERE TO SAVE UP TO $25 ON NRA MEMBERSHIP AND SUPPORT OUR WEBSITE
Did you watch the VICE clip? If you don't know who they are you must be living under a rock, they are no BS investigative journalists. 168 times the radiation levels of Hiroshima, it's no joke.
How could you even watch it from your link with that toenail fungus picture staring back?

 
It's like those bad headlines you see on FB all the time. "You won't believe what happens next!"

This Video Is Shocking The Entire World. Everyone Needs To See This!

Followed by: CLICK HERE TO SAVE UP TO $25 ON NRA MEMBERSHIP AND SUPPORT OUR WEBSITE
Did you watch the VICE clip? If you don't know who they are you must be living under a rock, they are no BS investigative journalists. 168 times the radiation levels of Hiroshima, it's no joke.
How could you even watch it from your link with that toenail fungus picture staring back?
:rolleyes: I'm waiting for the nuclear power experts to come in here again and dismiss the VICE piece and tell us all how there is nothing to worry about from all this, completely harmless stuff

 
It's like those bad headlines you see on FB all the time. "You won't believe what happens next!"

This Video Is Shocking The Entire World. Everyone Needs To See This!

Followed by: CLICK HERE TO SAVE UP TO $25 ON NRA MEMBERSHIP AND SUPPORT OUR WEBSITE
Did you watch the VICE clip? If you don't know who they are you must be living under a rock, they are no BS investigative journalists. 168 times the radiation levels of Hiroshima, it's no joke.
I'm saying their headline screams the "you won't believe what happens next" or "share this with all your friends" crap you see on FB. Nothing more, nothing to do with the content.
It's a VICE video linked to by some wacko website. VICE didn't write the headline.

 
It's like those bad headlines you see on FB all the time. "You won't believe what happens next!"

This Video Is Shocking The Entire World. Everyone Needs To See This!

Followed by: CLICK HERE TO SAVE UP TO $25 ON NRA MEMBERSHIP AND SUPPORT OUR WEBSITE
Did you watch the VICE clip? If you don't know who they are you must be living under a rock, they are no BS investigative journalists. 168 times the radiation levels of Hiroshima, it's no joke.
How could you even watch it from your link with that toenail fungus picture staring back?
:rolleyes: I'm waiting for the nuclear power experts to come in here again and dismiss the VICE piece and tell us all how there is nothing to worry about from all this, completely harmless stuff
Hi. I'm a nuclear power expert and there is nothing to worry about.

 
It's like those bad headlines you see on FB all the time. "You won't believe what happens next!"

This Video Is Shocking The Entire World. Everyone Needs To See This!

Followed by: CLICK HERE TO SAVE UP TO $25 ON NRA MEMBERSHIP AND SUPPORT OUR WEBSITE
Did you watch the VICE clip? If you don't know who they are you must be living under a rock, they are no BS investigative journalists. 168 times the radiation levels of Hiroshima, it's no joke.
How could you even watch it from your link with that toenail fungus picture staring back?
:rolleyes: I'm waiting for the nuclear power experts to come in here again and dismiss the VICE piece and tell us all how there is nothing to worry about from all this, completely harmless stuff
Hi. I'm a nuclear power expert and there is nothing to worry about.
Clever girl

 
It's like those bad headlines you see on FB all the time. "You won't believe what happens next!"

This Video Is Shocking The Entire World. Everyone Needs To See This!

Followed by: CLICK HERE TO SAVE UP TO $25 ON NRA MEMBERSHIP AND SUPPORT OUR WEBSITE
Did you watch the VICE clip? If you don't know who they are you must be living under a rock, they are no BS investigative journalists. 168 times the radiation levels of Hiroshima, it's no joke.
I'm saying their headline screams the "you won't believe what happens next" or "share this with all your friends" crap you see on FB. Nothing more, nothing to do with the content.
It's a VICE video linked to by some wacko website. VICE didn't write the headline.
And?

 
Has anyone found a link from a reputable source on this, not something that shares a page with "ALIENS ABDUCTED MY BABY" stories?
It's a VICE piece, they are VERY reputable

It's on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAEvT_UdhNI
Oh, it's on youtube, then it must be true
Are you disputing the claims in the VICE piece?
No, I'm disputing the reply that since it's on youtube, it must be credible.

 
Has anyone found a link from a reputable source on this, not something that shares a page with "ALIENS ABDUCTED MY BABY" stories?
It's a VICE piece, they are VERY reputable

It's on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAEvT_UdhNI
Oh, it's on youtube, then it must be true
Are you disputing the claims in the VICE piece?
No, I'm disputing the reply that since it's on youtube, it must be credible.
No you're being a tool, but that's not against the law

 

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