Far too reasonable for a career in politics.Fiscal conservative, social liberal. What does that make me?
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No clue. I see claims made about this board being more conservative and liberal. Why make claims when you can just collect some data and try to answer the question instead of speculating. The couple of other boards I frequent are WAY more conservative than liberal. This one always strikes me as fairly balanced. That said, there will always be extreme morons on both sides that make ridiculous claims. I figure the best way to combat that lunacy is with polls that show just how wrong they are.Fiscal conservative, social liberal. What does that make me?
Far too reasonable for a career in politics.Fiscal conservative, social liberal. What does that make me?
So you want to be in everyone else's fiscal business, but don't want anyone in your personal business?I am a supporter of FDR policies financially and a leave me the hell alone person socially.
Pretty much......but much like FDR.....the severity of my involvement in people's fiscal business depends on the state of the overall health of the country.So you want to be in everyone else's fiscal business, but don't want anyone in your personal business?I am a supporter of FDR policies financially and a leave me the hell alone person socially.
The opposite of GWB?Fiscal conservative, social liberal. What does that make me?
liberalRayderr said:Fiscal conservative, social liberal. What does that make me?
If Barry Goldwater is the litmus test for a good Republican...then where do I turn in my card.I'm still liberal, but I have to say, that HBO documentary on Barry Goldwater was really an eye opener for me. If most conservatives were like that, we could all get along a lot better. There's just a lot of room to come to an understanding. It's the social conservatives that I have and think will always have a problem with.
FDR advocated government price-fixing on an almost Soviet-style level. He was also responsible for our dysfunctional Social Security system that is impossible to reform no matter how the economy is doing.Darth Cheney said:Pretty much......but much like FDR.....the severity of my involvement in people's fiscal business depends on the state of the overall health of the country.
I'm still liberal, but I have to say, that HBO documentary on Barry Goldwater was really an eye opener for me. If most conservatives were like that, we could all get along a lot better. There's just a lot of room to come to an understanding. It's the social conservatives that I have and think will always have a problem with.
If you ran they'd be calling you a RINO.I guess more conservative....
smaller government
lower taxes
death penalty
guns
gay marraige
abortion
decriminalize marijuana
stem cells reasearch
smoking ban
Foreign policy... probably not a good one, but I'm an #######. I'm sick of us giving and giving and hearing everyone ##### about us. I'd slap my hands together, show them to everyone and say I'm out. Our money would be spent here on our problems.. have fun with your AIDS, no food, and no water Africa... and our troops would be here unless someone was invading an ally.
Drill for the oil.. we have plenty here to get us by while we spend the billions, that we normally give to rest of the world, researching alternatives.
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I'll be your veep.I guess more conservative....smaller government lower taxes death penalty guns gay marraige abortion decriminalize marijuana stem cells reasearch smoking ban Foreign policy... probably not a good one, but I'm an #######. I'm sick of us giving and giving and hearing everyone ##### about us. I'd slap my hands together, show them to everyone and say I'm out. Our money would be spent here on our problems.. have fun with your AIDS, no food, and no water Africa... and our troops would be here unless someone was invading an ally.Drill for the oil.. we have plenty here to get us by while we spend the billions, that we normally give to rest of the world, researching alternatives.vote for me
Hi Rayderr,This is the answer that always comes up. But can you unpack it some? I'm not sure you can separate the two. Many socially liberal programs cost money. Some a lot of money. How does that reconcile with being fiscally conservative?JRayderr said:Fiscal conservative, social liberal. What does that make me?
People want things, but don't want to play for them? Is this what you're hinting at? Or perhaps you weren't hinting at all and I'm interpreting you incorrectly.EDIT: Another thought. Maybe the "socially liberal" aspect refers to personal freedoms. Stuff like gay marriage, abortion, etc that don't have a large economic impact on the rest of society. Let people do what they want as long as I don't have to pay for it. Am I close?Many socially liberal programs cost money. Some a lot of money. How does that reconcile with being fiscally conservative?
Left leaning libertarian.
That about sums it up for me too.I guess more conservative....smaller government lower taxes death penalty guns gay marraige abortion decriminalize marijuana stem cells reasearch smoking ban Foreign policy... probably not a good one, but I'm an #######. I'm sick of us giving and giving and hearing everyone ##### about us. I'd slap my hands together, show them to everyone and say I'm out. Our money would be spent here on our problems.. have fun with your AIDS, no food, and no water Africa... and our troops would be here unless someone was invading an ally.Drill for the oil.. we have plenty here to get us by while we spend the billions, that we normally give to rest of the world, researching alternatives.vote for me
They should of called you "The Dork".In the US, I'd be a flaming liberal. In Canada, I'm pretty centrist.
I consider being socially liberal to mean you believe in freedom, not believing in social programs. I'm not a fan of programs that encourage laziness (like welfare) but do support free education to help people get better jobs and provide for themselves.Hi Rayderr,This is the answer that always comes up. But can you unpack it some? I'm not sure you can separate the two. Many socially liberal programs cost money. Some a lot of money. How does that reconcile with being fiscally conservative?JRayderr said:Fiscal conservative, social liberal. What does that make me?
Why do you want to ban gay marriage?Not sure...you tell me:Legalize ITBan Gay MarriageLegalize ProstitutionBoot out all the IllegalsAllow the States to decide on Abortion or notStates Rights vs Our Current Big Gov'tFlat Tax either Payroll or Sales...either way...one simple tax for everyone to pay and understandGuns, Guns and More Guns...Open Carry for everyoneThose are some of the main things I'd like to see addressed...
Sorry...I meant to say "Boot out all the illegals...and gays."Why do you want to ban gay marriage?Not sure...you tell me:Legalize ITBan Gay MarriageLegalize ProstitutionBoot out all the IllegalsAllow the States to decide on Abortion or notStates Rights vs Our Current Big Gov'tFlat Tax either Payroll or Sales...either way...one simple tax for everyone to pay and understandGuns, Guns and More Guns...Open Carry for everyoneThose are some of the main things I'd like to see addressed...
That's pretty much it.I'm all for gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research, legalizing drugs and prostitution (in an Amsterdam Red Light District sort of way.) I'm fine with welfare programs provided that they are more than just free handouts (i.e. include job training and placement) and that there is a harsh crackdown on abuses (I actually went on a date with one girl who was on disability because an ankle injury prevented her from standing for several hours. So instead of just telling her "get a desk job" they sent her a check each month) I'm against universal healthcare, yet think something needs to be done to pull back costs (about 3 years ago, I broke my collarbone, Ambulance ride, X-ray, Doctor saying "Yup, it's broken" and giving me a $5 arm sling cost $3000.)I consider being socially liberal to mean you believe in freedom, not believing in social programs. I'm not a fan of programs that encourage laziness (like welfare) but do support free education to help people get better jobs and provide for themselves.Hi Rayderr,This is the answer that always comes up. But can you unpack it some? I'm not sure you can separate the two. Many socially liberal programs cost money. Some a lot of money. How does that reconcile with being fiscally conservative?JRayderr said:Fiscal conservative, social liberal. What does that make me?
Is it really necessary to pigeon hole the Rayderr to one or the other?Hi Rayderr,This is the answer that always comes up. But can you unpack it some? I'm not sure you can separate the two. Many socially liberal programs cost money. Some a lot of money. How does that reconcile with being fiscally conservative?JRayderr said:Fiscal conservative, social liberal. What does that make me?
null voteThe words are virtually meaningless at this point - I've got opinions on an issue by issue basis that add up to not really jiving with one well identified mind set anyway. I'm really sick of partisan politics.
Unless I'm completely clueless, don't these two statements contradict each other?I guess more conservative....
smaller government
lower taxes
death penalty
guns
gay marraige
abortion
decriminalize marijuana
stem cells reasearch
smoking ban
Foreign policy... probably not a good one, but I'm an #######. I'm sick of us giving and giving and hearing everyone ##### about us. I'd slap my hands together, show them to everyone and say I'm out. Our money would be spent here on our problems.. have fun with your AIDS, no food, and no water Africa... and our troops would be here unless someone was invading an ally.
Drill for the oil.. we have plenty here to get us by while we spend the billions, that we normally give to rest of the world, researching alternatives.
vote for me