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KCitons
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Australia announces that they have changed to search area roughly 700 miles Northeast of where they have been searching for the past week.
The good news is that it's closer to Perth, so they should have more time each day to search this new area. The bad news, they've been searching in the wrong area for a week.
This new search area was created due to analysis of the planes speed. They believe it was traveling faster than first thought. Therefor it used more fuel and crashed sooner.
That is all.
The good news is that it's closer to Perth, so they should have more time each day to search this new area. The bad news, they've been searching in the wrong area for a week.
This new search area was created due to analysis of the planes speed. They believe it was traveling faster than first thought. Therefor it used more fuel and crashed sooner.
That is all.
Mario Kart
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You are a God walking with insects. Don't let anyone else tell you different. 100% hijacking. No question about it.
ClownCausedChaos2
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I read this morning that the ivestigation of his simulator was complete and nothing suspicious was found. No details beyond that.
fatness
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I also read that background investigations on the crew and passengers had turned up nothing alarming or suspicious.
Das Boot
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I saw on the news yesterday that the pinger batteries may have been stored improperly lowering their longevity and might have already stopped working.
Fat Nick
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See my earlier post about the timing of the failure "just as they were leaving Malaysian airspace." The only reason we say that is because they never were picked up by the next ATC. Sometimes, you just can't pick up the next ATC when you get handed off...you're on the outskirts of their range, so they don't always hear you immediately, nor is it ever a guarantee that they had the right frequency tuned in. ALL suspicions, but I don't put much weight into the timing.
Agreed re. the Pilot suicide...as stated, I'm more in the mechanical failure boat, but...I think pilot suicide is far more likely than hijack.
Hijacking without pilot assistance is so unlikely. 1) The cockpit door is locked. Yes, I know these pilots have had passengers up there before, but this was still in the climb-out phase of flight. I doubt they had time to find groupies. 2) All a pilot has to do in the event of a hijacking is squawk 7500. I don't think that a person could get through the blast doors of the plane, and disable the transponder before they could simply type "7500." It's much more likely that something happened that damaged the transponder quickly.
All we've proven is that there are holes in every theory, and possible explanations for every theory...which I guess explains why this thread is 81 pages long.
Fat Nick
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Of course they were....Given how the Malaysians have run this thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the plane's fuel tank was accidentally filled with Diet Coke and the on-board oxygen tanks were accidentally swapped with laughing gas.
Fat Nick
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I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE FOUND DEBRIS IMAGES 5 DAYS AGO AND WE STILL HAVEN'T MANAGED TO PHYSICALLY RECOVER ANYTHING!!!!
I mean, seriously...is there a place on earth that is so remote that you can't get to it in 5 days? Let's say a boat travels at 30 MPH...in 5 days it should be able to cover 3,600 miles.
I mean, seriously...is there a place on earth that is so remote that you can't get to it in 5 days? Let's say a boat travels at 30 MPH...in 5 days it should be able to cover 3,600 miles.
KCitons
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Someone reported that Malaysian Airlines was storing it's spare batteries in a closet that had high humidity and reached temperatures up to 120 degrees. This was something that happened in the past. They mentioned that all the batteries were swapped out for brand new batteries.
There is no way of knowing if the missing plane has one of the old batteries, or a new battery.
Fat Nick
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Or a battery at all...Someone reported that Malaysian Airlines was storing it's spare batteries in a closet that had high humidity and reached temperatures up to 120 degrees. This was something that happened in the past. They mentioned that all the batteries were swapped out for brand new batteries.
There is no way of knowing if the missing plane has one of the old batteries, or a new battery.
Hell, maybe the battery was installed with the polarity reversed, which caused a fire. Case solved!
KCitons
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When do you go on CNN as an "expert"?Or a battery at all...Someone reported that Malaysian Airlines was storing it's spare batteries in a closet that had high humidity and reached temperatures up to 120 degrees. This was something that happened in the past. They mentioned that all the batteries were swapped out for brand new batteries.
There is no way of knowing if the missing plane has one of the old batteries, or a new battery.
Hell, maybe the battery was installed with the polarity reversed, which caused a fire. Case solved!
Terpman22
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I don't think you ever will then. You know the water in the ocean is not static, right?
Fat Nick
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Come on man...Yes. I know that water is not static. You do know that they have things in space that take pictures of things on earth, right? They also have the ability to map the ocean currents and determine which directions things might flow [gasp]. Yet despite all of this, we still haven't been able to put a boat on any debris.
TheIronSheik
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Need to be careful. Putting a boat on debris might result in everyone looking for a triple 7 and a boat.
Apple Jack
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I think it's safe to say that the degree of difficulty here is somewhere between looking for the remote and trying to find your car keys. It's like really super deluxe hard and stuff. Ocean big. Ocean boil like cauldron. Ocean angry like old man trying to return soup in a deli.
And those debris images are no longer of interest, if I interpreted what I read this morning correctly.
As I said yesterday, if the plane did crash because of something other than pilot intention it would be something like this where it was a desperate situation that originated in the cockpit:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591402/MH370-flight-deck-fire-similar-one-broke-Boeing-model-2011-downed-missing-jet-claims-London-law-firm.html
I don't think if it was a fire that it could have originated anywhere else because they would have time to call for help. If the source started in the cockpit I can reasonably believe that explains a lot. Malaysian Airlines also reportedly was losing MILLIONS of dollars each year so perhaps they were getting a little sketchy on adequate repairs and that's why the government is so slow to act. I can believe that.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591402/MH370-flight-deck-fire-similar-one-broke-Boeing-model-2011-downed-missing-jet-claims-London-law-firm.html
I don't think if it was a fire that it could have originated anywhere else because they would have time to call for help. If the source started in the cockpit I can reasonably believe that explains a lot. Malaysian Airlines also reportedly was losing MILLIONS of dollars each year so perhaps they were getting a little sketchy on adequate repairs and that's why the government is so slow to act. I can believe that.
Apple Jack
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TheIronSheik
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Doug B
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They're not getting visuals at depth, anyway.
If significant wreckage is ever found on the ocean floor, it will be by sonar.
Something to compare to: granted, the technology is very different ... but it took 73 years to find the eventual resting place of the RMS Titanic. It was about 12,000 ft deep, and it was in two large pieces (not scattered about in chunks).
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fatness
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Apple Jack
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They found the boxes for Air France, so while very unlikely, it's not inconceivable. Though they had a much smaller search area (still big) considering they found the wreckage with just five days of current movement.
Doug B
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KCitons
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Depends on which theory you believe. A black box with a good battery is suppose to last approx 30 days.
With the report that Malaysian Airlines was storing the replacement batteries improperly, I'm wondering if the same defective batteries could have been used in the other beacons as well. There is suppose to be a sensor that reacts when it detects salt water, and another when there is an impact. Bad batteries would explain why these signals were never sent.
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TheIronSheik
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I still believe the theory that the plane is on an alien mothership somewhere in outer space. And they have wireless electricity. So the black box is still recording.
KCitons
Footballguy
I have all the theories written down in my notebook. It's number three, right below pilot suicide and mechanical failure.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
Depends on if you think the batteries were old or new, stored correctly or incorrectly, or installed correctly or with reverse polarity.
In any case, the answer is "between a while ago and 9 days from now plus or minus a few days.". That range of answers seems to be within the general accuracy scope in this thread.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Doesn't matter. There's no way in hell they're getting anywhere within 50 miles of those boxes by 30 days after the crash, let alone finding them.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
I think some of us would probably pay good money for this notebook at this point...CNN included...
Fat Nick
Footballguy
Next follow-up will inevitably be "We have confirmed that the objects photographed by the aircraft are indeed debris...but we don't know what the debris is from. It could be MH370, it could be anything."
Joe Summer
Footballguy
And then the next follow-up will be "The debris has disappeared".
KCitons
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Wish we could get clarification of which path is correct.
If this plane took the path around the North end of Indonesia, and then flew to the current search area, it would add almost 900 miles to the travel distance?
If it took the direct path, it would have flown directly over Indonesia and should have showed up on radar. I guess it could have flown low enough to dodge radar. Which would also account for some of the extra fuel burn.
If this plane took the path around the North end of Indonesia, and then flew to the current search area, it would add almost 900 miles to the travel distance?
If it took the direct path, it would have flown directly over Indonesia and should have showed up on radar. I guess it could have flown low enough to dodge radar. Which would also account for some of the extra fuel burn.
Ignoramus
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And the weather that's on the west coast of the US right now will head east in a couple of days and we've actually had people and instrumentation at thousands of points in between monitoring for hundreds of years, yet we still don't know what the weather will be this very afternoon with any real degree of certainty.Why then is it so surprising that it's hard to find a seat cushion floating in the ocean when all you know is that it dropped somewhere along a 2,000 mile arc two weeks ago?Fat Nick said:
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fred_1_15301
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SaintsInDome2006
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One report on tv said that the Air France flight was quite fortunately found lying on a plateau, holding pretty well still together, it was happenstance that it fell to the sea bottom like that.Apple Jack said:
