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When do children first become aware of what drugs are and the different types?

Perhaps I am being naive, but I thought alcohol and/or drugs weren't something kids were too aware of until 3rd or 4th grade, and they wouldn't start messing with anything until 14 or 15 years old.

In my children's class, they begin teaching them about high level basics of the danger's in kindergarten, and I was taken aback at how early that is being taught.

Are there any studies that show kids awareness to drugs/alcohol that show when they not only become aware of them, but when they understand enough to possibly use them?

 
I knew kids in 7th grade who were getting baked after school. Completely freaked me out. I knew about different drugs a lot younger than that, but had no idea what they were. There was a running joke where we'd ask if anyone had any quaaludes, in a Tony Montana voice. That was probably 6th grade.

 
cub,

Just as a frame of reference, I started using drugs when I was 12 - in 1981. So imagine how easy it is for children to acquire drugs now that marijuana is decriminalized in some states.

 
very common in middle school in the 70s/80s... outside of SF. earlier age than that... I wasn't aware at all.''

Kindergarten?! IMO, no place for it even being talked about. Where is this?

 
El Floppo said:
very common in middle school in the 70s/80s... outside of SF. earlier age than that... I wasn't aware at all.''

Kindergarten?! IMO, no place for it even being talked about. Where is this?
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If they're talking about the dangers or taking the OTC or prescription drugs that their parents might use.....I don't have a problem with that.

 
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I think it depends on what they are exposed to at home/friends. Generally kids with older sibs will know more younger about everything: sex drugs music, etc. if parents use, kids know. I was very aware of alcoholism by second grade and told all kinds of sex stories to kids at school.

I like to talk to my kids about anything that comes up regardless of their ages. Sex, death, drugs, alcohol. Whatever comes up, and it does, I'm ready.

 
Studies have shown 3 things as it relates to drug prevention education.

1. Drug ed usually starts in middle school

2. By then kids have mostly formed their opinions on drugs

3. The impacts on opinions of drug ed. wears off quickly

 
I knew people who were smoking pot when I was in the 3rd grade. And that was over 40 years ago. I assume there are still early adopters.

 
Ilov80s said:
Studies have shown 3 things as it relates to drug prevention education.

1. Drug ed usually starts in middle school

2. By then kids have mostly formed their opinions on drugs

3. The impacts on opinions of drug ed. wears off quickly
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Yep. They definitely start drug-ed too late.

 
jdoggydogg said:
cub,

Just as a frame of reference, I started using drugs when I was 12 - in 1981. So imagine how easy it is for children to acquire drugs now that marijuana is decriminalized in some states.
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Really? I live in a state where it always was and is still illegal, and I can't imagine it being any easier to get in Colorado than it is here. When I was 10 years old I could go out and get some weed inside of an hour, anytime I wanted, and I lived in what would be considered "a nice quiet town".

Weed was always easier to get than alcohol.

It baffles me that people think the kids will all be doing weed because it is legalized. All the people that smoke weed now are the same people that will be smoking weed (hence, having weed at their homes for kids to take) if it was legal in their state. I don't see a bunch of non-weed smokers lined up waiting for weed to be legal. The penalties are so weak for weed that the laws arent stopping people from using anyway, and there isnt anywhere close to a shortage of supply.....ever.

And as for how old kids are in general when they are aware of this stuff enough to use, I am 100% confident that it is directly related to their home environment in some form or another.

But sure, a normal home, you are looking at 7th-9th grade for some experimentation, generally some bubbly.

 
ghostguy123 said:
jdoggydogg said:
cub,

Just as a frame of reference, I started using drugs when I was 12 - in 1981. So imagine how easy it is for children to acquire drugs now that marijuana is decriminalized in some states.
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Really? I live in a state where it always was and is still illegal, and I can't imagine it being any easier to get in Colorado than it is here. When I was 10 years old I could go out and get some weed inside of an hour, anytime I wanted, and I lived in what would be considered "a nice quiet town".

Weed was always easier to get than alcohol.

It baffles me that people think the kids will all be doing weed because it is legalized. All the people that smoke weed now are the same people that will be smoking weed (hence, having weed at their homes for kids to take) if it was legal in their state. I don't see a bunch of non-weed smokers lined up waiting for weed to be legal. The penalties are so weak for weed that the laws arent stopping people from using anyway, and there isnt anywhere close to a shortage of supply.....ever.

And as for how old kids are in general when they are aware of this stuff enough to use, I am 100% confident that it is directly related to their home environment in some form or another.

But sure, a normal home, you are looking at 7th-9th grade for some experimentation, generally some bubbly.
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Actually we have done several threads here where people who are currently non-smokers say they would if it was legal and they wouldn't lose their jobs. And I think there are definitely people who would try it for the novelty if it was legal even if it were only a one time thing. So while I don't necessarily think more kids will smoke I do think more adults very well might.

 
They start in Kindergarten to try and get kids to snitch out their parents. I had a summer job at a fishing tackle warehouse when I was younger, and a guy there told me his kid told his teachers he smoked.

 
NCCommish said:
Actually we have done several threads here where people who are currently non-smokers say they would if it was legal and they wouldn't lose their jobs. And I think there are definitely people who would try it for the novelty if it was legal even if it were only a one time thing. So while I don't necessarily think more kids will smoke I do think more adults very well might.
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I wonder what is stopping them now then? Is it their jobs will change their protocols if weed is legalized, or are they just not doing it because it is illegal?

I havent looked at those threads, but it would seem quite strange to me that people would all of a sudden smoke some weed just cause it is legalized given the ridiculously low penalties for smoking it now.

If your job chances their policies, then yeah, I can see that leading to more smokers.

Where I work, it wouldnt matter if it was legal or not, i still cant smoke (I dont smoke anyway, so dont really care).

 
ghostguy123 said:
NCCommish said:
Actually we have done several threads here where people who are currently non-smokers say they would if it was legal and they wouldn't lose their jobs. And I think there are definitely people who would try it for the novelty if it was legal even if it were only a one time thing. So while I don't necessarily think more kids will smoke I do think more adults very well might.
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I wonder what is stopping them now then? Is it their jobs will change their protocols if weed is legalized, or are they just not doing it because it is illegal?

I havent looked at those threads, but it would seem quite strange to me that people would all of a sudden smoke some weed just cause it is legalized given the ridiculously low penalties for smoking it now.

If your job chances their policies, then yeah, I can see that leading to more smokers.

Where I work, it wouldnt matter if it was legal or not, i still cant smoke (I dont smoke anyway, so dont really care).
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If it becomes federally legal they are going to have a hard time testing employees for it. And a lot of businesses have quietly dropped testing for pot as it becomes harder to justify it and find people who test clean.

 
NCCommish said:
If it becomes federally legal they are going to have a hard time testing employees for it. And a lot of businesses have quietly dropped testing for pot as it becomes harder to justify it and find people who test clean.
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Alcohol is legal and you cant drink on the job. COmpanies are well withing their rights to hire and fire based on whatever drug policies they see fit. My company (hospital) wont even hire anyone who smokes cigs.

And businesses that are quietly dropping the THC testing are doing this in states where weed is currently illegal, so not sure what legalizing it has to do with that.

My guess is that businesses will stop testing for weed whether it is legal or not, but still keep their policies in line so that they can test for it if they feel they need to with certain employees, namely people who are screwing up.

 
ghostguy123 said:
NCCommish said:
If it becomes federally legal they are going to have a hard time testing employees for it. And a lot of businesses have quietly dropped testing for pot as it becomes harder to justify it and find people who test clean.
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Alcohol is legal and you cant drink on the job. COmpanies are well withing their rights to hire and fire based on whatever drug policies they see fit. My company (hospital) wont even hire anyone who smokes cigs.

And businesses that are quietly dropping the THC testing are doing this in states where weed is currently illegal, so not sure what legalizing it has to do with that.

My guess is that businesses will stop testing for weed whether it is legal or not, but still keep their policies in line so that they can test for it if they feel they need to with certain employees, namely people who are screwing up.
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No it's happening across the nation not just in the few states where it is legal. And who tests for alcohol use? No one said anything about getting high on the job. Excessive alcohol use cost the economy over 200 billion dollars in lost productivity the last year we have numbers for. No one is hungover from pot.

 
ghostguy123 said:
It baffles me that people think the kids will all be doing weed because it is legalized.
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In High School we used to hang out in front of liquor stores asking adults to buy beer. You don't think that'll happen with marijuana? Anyway, I didn't intend to divert the conversation. My point is that drugs are ubiquitous and easy to acquire.

 
jdoggydogg said:
ghostguy123 said:
It baffles me that people think the kids will all be doing weed because it is legalized.
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In High School we used to hang out in front of liquor stores asking adults to buy beer. You don't think that'll happen with marijuana? Anyway, I didn't intend to divert the conversation. My point is that drugs are ubiquitous and easy to acquire.
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No, I dont think that will happen with Marijuana (not enough for it to factor into any decisions).

Marijuana is super easy for kids to get right now. It's all over the place (talking about states where it is NOT legal). Not too many people have supplies of beer they are selling out of their homes or on the street.

 
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