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First time, long time

We have an owner in our leage, pickles> hi, that picked up waiver wire players this week(first week of the playoffs) even though he is out.

Is this:

a. bad form

b. great shtick

c. perfectly fine

I think i'ts a and b but those players should probably be put back in the WW pool.

 
In my league(dynasty) I dont let anyone that has been eliminated from the playoffs pickup any players off the wiaver wire or trade with anyone else. Its to easy to have two buddies working together. One owner that is in the playoffs could have his buddy pickup a player so his oppenent that he his playing against cant. I think its unfair.

 
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If it's a keeper/dynasty, it's fine.

If you have a Toilet Bowl that the team can still compete in, it's fine.

If he really has no reason to pick up players, they should be put back in the pool.

 
Depends on if there's something worth fighting for.

If your league is set up for paying top season point total(s), and the team's still in contention, then yes.

If your league is set up to pay top point total each week, then yes.

 
In my league(dynasty) I dont let anyone that has been eliminated from the playoffs pickup any players off the wiaver wire or trade with anyone else. Its to easy to have two buddies working together. One owner that is in the playoffs could have his buddy pickup a player so his oppenent that he his playing against cant. I think its unfair.
I think that's unfair to the teams eliminated - what if week 15 an unheralded RB bursts on to the scene - these guys should have a shot at him - it's a dynasty league.
 
yeah straight redraft league with no toilet bowl
Do you have a rule that prohibits it?If not, the owner is playing the role of "spoiler".May want to update the rule book
That may be the case, but as commish (even if there was no rule prohibiting such an action) I would definitely reverse the move as if it had never happened. If this is not a dynasty league and there is no toilet bowl, then there is absolutely no reason a team, whose season is over, should be permitted to make moves. It's common sense."Playing the role of spoiler" is weak sauce when the team's season is already over.
 
yeah straight redraft league with no toilet bowl
Do you have a rule that prohibits it?If not, the owner is playing the role of "spoiler".

May want to update the rule book
That may be the case, but as commish (even if there was no rule prohibiting such an action) I would definitely reverse the move as if it had never happened. If this is not a dynasty league and there is no toilet bowl, then there is absolutely no reason a team, whose season is over, should be permitted to make moves. It's common sense."Playing the role of spoiler" is weak sauce when the team's season is already over.
On what grounds. The "I forgot to write it into the rulebook" clause?
 
our league doesn't have rules, we (using this term lightly) wait until 2 minutes before the draft to announce them.

 
Once the playoff week begins there's no ww or trades until after the season ends.

 
In our redraft league with no toliet bowl, keepers, etc. I have disable the owners' ability to propose and accept trades, use the ww, or submit lineups.

 
In our redraft league with no toliet bowl, keepers, etc. I have disable the owners' ability to propose and accept trades, use the ww, or submit lineups.
:thumbdown: I do the same thing. They have nothing to play for so there's no reason to make transactions (Redraft/No Loser Bracket)
 
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yeah straight redraft league with no toilet bowl
Do you have a rule that prohibits it?If not, the owner is playing the role of "spoiler".

May want to update the rule book
That may be the case, but as commish (even if there was no rule prohibiting such an action) I would definitely reverse the move as if it had never happened. If this is not a dynasty league and there is no toilet bowl, then there is absolutely no reason a team, whose season is over, should be permitted to make moves. It's common sense."Playing the role of spoiler" is weak sauce when the team's season is already over.
On what grounds. The "I forgot to write it into the rulebook" clause?
On the grounds that as commish, I make decisions on things in the best interest of the league as a whole. I would never even want such a clause cluttering up my rulebook. It's common sense. A team in a redraft league who has no more games and has been eliminated has no reason to make a move. Any reasonable person can see that and would not use the ultra weak argument that they should be allowed to make the move b/c the rulebook doesn't prohibit it.
 
Our redraft league has a rule that states as soon as a team is eliminated from the playoffs, their roster is frozen. Even the players that are in the toilet bowl (played in week 15) are not allowed to make waiver moves because they are eliminated from the playoffs.

No one wants to win the toilet bowl anyway because then you are stuck with the futility trophy for the entire year and it must be prominently displayed in your house/apartment/moving crate under the interstate.

 
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Our redraft league has a rule that states as soon as a team is eliminated from the playoffs, their roster is frozen.
Wow. That's taking it even a step further. I don't like that only b/c a team could be eliminated in week 11 and still have two games left against teams in the hunt and I would not want to make it easy for the teams in the hunt to get a win simply b/c the team was officially eliminated from the playoffs in week 11 and the only TE on his roster just got injured.I have no problem with it being at the end of the regular season, but as soon as a team is eliminated could have negative consequences for the competitive balance of the league.
 
First time, long timeWe have an owner in our leage, pickles> hi, that picked up waiver wire players this week(first week of the playoffs) even though he is out. Is this:a. bad formb. great shtickc. perfectly fineI think i'ts a and b but those players should probably be put back in the WW pool.
I don't see anything wrong with it unless it's against the rules. And I don't see why it should be against the rules anyhow.You don't have ANY reason for teams to play once the playoffs start? There should be a Toilet Bowl or something. If not, a weekly high score payout is a good idea. This keeps teams from dumping when they get eliminated.Even with no official incentive, don't your owners have any pride? If I'm eliminated from the playoffs, I'll still challenge another team to a side bet. Bet a case of beer on who scores more points this week. This should be encouraged with lots of trash talk. have some fun for crissakes.I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would WANT to limit owners from participating before the NFL regular season is over. This is supposed to be fun times with your buddies, with some money on the line.
 
Our redraft league has a rule that states as soon as a team is eliminated from the playoffs, their roster is frozen.
Wow. That's taking it even a step further. I don't like that only b/c a team could be eliminated in week 11 and still have two games left against teams in the hunt and I would not want to make it easy for the teams in the hunt to get a win simply b/c the team was officially eliminated from the playoffs in week 11 and the only TE on his roster just got injured.I have no problem with it being at the end of the regular season, but as soon as a team is eliminated could have negative consequences for the competitive balance of the league.
That prevents dumping and collusion. Also 8 of our 12 teams make the playoffs so in a 13 week season, the first team isn't eliminated until week 11 or 12 at the earliest.The reason we instituted this rule is that we have had owners in the past that were out of contention and gave up. Opportunistic owners would then swoop in and make garbage offers - which were approved because they failed to get the required number of against votes. We actually had to kick an owner out for being a repeat offender. Now I can't imagine any of our owners pulling that stuff as we have 12 solid owners...but the rule stays just in case.
 
Our redraft league has a rule that states as soon as a team is eliminated from the playoffs, their roster is frozen.
Wow. That's taking it even a step further. I don't like that only b/c a team could be eliminated in week 11 and still have two games left against teams in the hunt and I would not want to make it easy for the teams in the hunt to get a win simply b/c the team was officially eliminated from the playoffs in week 11 and the only TE on his roster just got injured.I have no problem with it being at the end of the regular season, but as soon as a team is eliminated could have negative consequences for the competitive balance of the league.
That prevents dumping and collusion. Also 8 of our 12 teams make the playoffs so in a 13 week season, the first team isn't eliminated until week 11 or 12 at the earliest.The reason we instituted this rule is that we have had owners in the past that were out of contention and gave up. Opportunistic owners would then swoop in and make garbage offers - which were approved because they failed to get the required number of against votes. We actually had to kick an owner out for being a repeat offender. Now I can't imagine any of our owners pulling that stuff as we have 12 solid owners...but the rule stays just in case.
Instead of making a rule to freeze their rosters like you did, I would have just made it so that there are no trades after week 10 games. That solves your problem, but if you have good owners (like you said) that is even better.
 
I was in a league a few years back that required the teams not in the playoffs when they started to cut all of their players which would then be drafted by the surviving teams in an auction format. Made things interesting, but I hated it.

 
Once the playoffs end, all non playoff teams are not allowed to make any moves.

If the regular season is still going, then the rules have to be the same for every team.

A bad team may not be mathematically eliminated in week 10, for example, so he can use the waiver wire to try and win against team A, but then he gets eliminated and can't try to win against team B. This is especially relevant if players get injured. I fail to see how this doesn't compromise the integrity of the league.

The best way to prevent collusion is to have quality owners. But limiting only certain teams from using waivers at certain times is ridiculous in my opinion.

 
In my league(dynasty) I dont let anyone that has been eliminated from the playoffs pickup any players off the wiaver wire or trade with anyone else. Its to easy to have two buddies working together. One owner that is in the playoffs could have his buddy pickup a player so his oppenent that he his playing against cant. I think its unfair.
I think that's unfair to the teams eliminated - what if week 15 an unheralded RB bursts on to the scene - these guys should have a shot at him - it's a dynasty league.
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In my league(dynasty) I dont let anyone that has been eliminated from the playoffs pickup any players off the wiaver wire or trade with anyone else. Its to easy to have two buddies working together. One owner that is in the playoffs could have his buddy pickup a player so his oppenent that he his playing against cant. I think its unfair.
I think that's unfair to the teams eliminated - what if week 15 an unheralded RB bursts on to the scene - these guys should have a shot at him - it's a dynasty league.
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:mellow: :wall: I wouldn't stay in this league. Unless maybe all WW picks when the non-playoff teams can't get them go back to the draft pool.
 
If a league has rules that demand an owner submit a valid roster each week, or if you have any sort of a total points payout, then EVERY team should be allowed waiver pickups each and every week, regardless of whether they made the playoffs.

 
All teams must have the same rights during the regular season.

If I have to beat a team still in contention in order to make the playoffs, but another team in contention has to play an "eliminated" team who cannot improve their roster to cover poorly performing players or injuries, then the team playing the eliminated team has a HUGE advantage.

Playing the spoiler is part of the NFL. It should also be part of fantasy football.

There are other ways to control collusion (no trades among anyone after a certain week).

I would raise hell about this rule.

In a dynasty league, you also give a huge advantage to teams still in contention to pick up the next "out of nowhere" player that emerges at the end of the season every now and then.

Here's how we do it. No trades after week 10. No waiver wire pickups for anyone once the playoffs start.

Pretty simple, and works fine. Over 10 years running this league and it's always worked out.

 
In my league(dynasty) I dont let anyone that has been eliminated from the playoffs pickup any players off the wiaver wire or trade with anyone else. Its to easy to have two buddies working together. One owner that is in the playoffs could have his buddy pickup a player so his oppenent that he his playing against cant. I think its unfair.
I think that's unfair to the teams eliminated - what if week 15 an unheralded RB bursts on to the scene - these guys should have a shot at him - it's a dynasty league.
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:goodposting: :goodposting: I wouldn't stay in this league. Unless maybe all WW picks when the non-playoff teams can't get them go back to the draft pool.
This is exactly what my dynasty league does. Dynasty rosters are locked at end of regular season. Any WW transactions during fantasy playoffs are reversed after the playoffs.
 
All teams must have the same rights during the regular season.If I have to beat a team still in contention in order to make the playoffs, but another team in contention has to play an "eliminated" team who cannot improve their roster to cover poorly performing players or injuries, then the team playing the eliminated team has a HUGE advantage.Playing the spoiler is part of the NFL. It should also be part of fantasy football.There are other ways to control collusion (no trades among anyone after a certain week).I would raise hell about this rule.In a dynasty league, you also give a huge advantage to teams still in contention to pick up the next "out of nowhere" player that emerges at the end of the season every now and then.Here's how we do it. No trades after week 10. No waiver wire pickups for anyone once the playoffs start.Pretty simple, and works fine. Over 10 years running this league and it's always worked out.
We used to do the "no waiver wire in the playoffs" thing but the first year we did it, one of the finalists lost both QB's in the semifinal week (one was Gus Frerotte headbutting the wall after a TD and knocking himself out for the year) and had no QB for the Super Bowl. Pretty lame. We reversed it after that year.
 
Maybe I'm just weird but even when I'm eliminated from the playoffs I'm still trying to win as many games as I can. As commissioners, I think that is what you should want from your owners. As long as there are still games to be played everybody should have an equal chance at the free agents.

By freezing peoples rosters, IMO, you are more likely to create unfair situations. Lets say a starting RB for a team out of the playoffs goes down with injury late in the year. His backup now becomes the hot commodity. By only allowing the teams in contention for the playoffs to pick up waiver wire players you are now allowing somebody to pick up a player he would normally not be able to get. In addition, the team that lost his RB now may be stuck playing short handed in a game that could affect the playoff picture.

 
Maybe I'm just weird but even when I'm eliminated from the playoffs I'm still trying to win as many games as I can. As commissioners, I think that is what you should want from your owners. As long as there are still games to be played everybody should have an equal chance at the free agents.By freezing peoples rosters, IMO, you are more likely to create unfair situations. Lets say a starting RB for a team out of the playoffs goes down with injury late in the year. His backup now becomes the hot commodity. By only allowing the teams in contention for the playoffs to pick up waiver wire players you are now allowing somebody to pick up a player he would normally not be able to get. In addition, the team that lost his RB now may be stuck playing short handed in a game that could affect the playoff picture.
Yea...it's a shame this thread has segued this way since I have never heard of a league freezing a team's roster when there still might be some regular season games played...until Mr. Know-It-All brought it up.The OP of this thread was bringing up the point that there are teams eliminated AND the regular season is over (so their season is over and this is a redraft league too)... and should he still allow those teams to make moves. Obviously the only reason to make moves is to snake players from the playoff teams just to be a d!<K. That's bush league to me, and I wouldn't allow it since there is no reasonable point to it.
 
yeah straight redraft league with no toilet bowl
Do you have a rule that prohibits it?If not, the owner is playing the role of "spoiler".

May want to update the rule book
That may be the case, but as commish (even if there was no rule prohibiting such an action) I would definitely reverse the move as if it had never happened. If this is not a dynasty league and there is no toilet bowl, then there is absolutely no reason a team, whose season is over, should be permitted to make moves. It's common sense."Playing the role of spoiler" is weak sauce when the team's season is already over.
On what grounds. The "I forgot to write it into the rulebook" clause?
On the grounds that as commish, I make decisions on things in the best interest of the league as a whole. I would never even want such a clause cluttering up my rulebook. It's common sense. A team in a redraft league who has no more games and has been eliminated has no reason to make a move. Any reasonable person can see that and would not use the ultra weak argument that they should be allowed to make the move b/c the rulebook doesn't prohibit it.
Nice, act snotty because someone doesn't agree with you. :confused: It doesn't "clutter" the rulebook to have one line saying "Unless a team is in the playoffs, you may not make WW moves"

Its obviously NOT common sense since someone did it.

Its not a weak argument, its a fact. There is nothing to prohibit it other than your opinion of it being "common sense" which obviously it isn't since it was done. And it was probably gamesmanship by one of the eliminated teams.

And yes, ultimately I do agree with the idea that eliminated teams shouldn't make moves but without a rule to stop you really shouldn't arbitraily reverse it as a commish. That will end up leading to hard feelings unless its a very tight knit group of owners.

 
yeah straight redraft league with no toilet bowl
Do you have a rule that prohibits it?If not, the owner is playing the role of "spoiler".

May want to update the rule book
That may be the case, but as commish (even if there was no rule prohibiting such an action) I would definitely reverse the move as if it had never happened. If this is not a dynasty league and there is no toilet bowl, then there is absolutely no reason a team, whose season is over, should be permitted to make moves. It's common sense."Playing the role of spoiler" is weak sauce when the team's season is already over.
On what grounds. The "I forgot to write it into the rulebook" clause?
On the grounds that as commish, I make decisions on things in the best interest of the league as a whole. I would never even want such a clause cluttering up my rulebook. It's common sense. A team in a redraft league who has no more games and has been eliminated has no reason to make a move. Any reasonable person can see that and would not use the ultra weak argument that they should be allowed to make the move b/c the rulebook doesn't prohibit it.
Nice, act snotty because someone doesn't agree with you. :lmao: It doesn't "clutter" the rulebook to have one line saying "Unless a team is in the playoffs, you may not make WW moves"

Its obviously NOT common sense since someone did it.

Its not a weak argument, its a fact. There is nothing to prohibit it other than your opinion of it being "common sense" which obviously it isn't since it was done. And it was probably gamesmanship by one of the eliminated teams.

And yes, ultimately I do agree with the idea that eliminated teams shouldn't make moves but without a rule to stop you really shouldn't arbitrarily reverse it as a commish. That will end up leading to hard feelings unless its a very tight knit group of owners.
huh? Are we talking about the same thing?I am referring to a redraft league team whose regular season is over and did not make the playoffs and we are talking about this team making rosters add/drops once their season is officially over. I am saying these teams should not be able to make moves since it is unnecessary and serves no purpose.

I think of "playing the role of spoiler" as a team who is out of the playoff hunt and brings it to defeat a team in the playoff hunt near the end of the regular season. You think of it as a team whose season is over trying to pick up players to screw the teams who are in the playoffs? That's horrible gamesmanship and in extremely poor taste.

For a commish to reverse these type of moves is a good thing since there is no justifiable point in them. This won't lead to hard feelings. What will lead to hard feelings is allowing this BS to take place and having the playoff teams wondering why a team whose season is over is still making add/drops of viable players in a redraft league.

I understand you strongly disagree with me, but your argument couldn't be more ridiculous. Just b/c there is not an official rule? If the team was serving it's own best interest with a pickup then I could see your point, but a team whose season is over has no business making add/drops in a redraft league. Common sense trumps the lack of a rule prohibiting it. Sometimes the commish needs to make a fair and unbiased call for the good of the league --- this is one of those times.

Like others have said previously, I make sure I lock the teams whose season are over from making add/drops so that this doesn't become an issue.

 
if it's straight redraft and you guys think you'll be getting back together next year, you could have the bottom 4, or whatever, teams compete for the #1-4 picks, instead of just going straight reverse order of finish.

at least that way mostly everybody has something to play for the last couple weeks.

 
And yes, ultimately I do agree with the idea that eliminated teams shouldn't make moves but without a rule to stop you really shouldn't arbitraily reverse it as a commish. That will end up leading to hard feelings unless its a very tight knit group of owners.
You think that allowing a team that's done playing to snarf free agents from the teams still in the playoffs will not lead to hard feelings?Every league needs a general "don't be a bozo" rule. This is a bozo situation.
 
First time, long time

We have an owner in our leage, pickles> hi, that picked up waiver wire players this week(first week of the playoffs) even though he is out.

Is this:

a. bad form

b. great shtick

c. perfectly fine

I think i'ts a and b but those players should probably be put back in the WW pool.
a and b. I think next year I'm proposing a rule that doesn't allow this.
 
yeah straight redraft league with no toilet bowl
Do you have a rule that prohibits it?If not, the owner is playing the role of "spoiler".

May want to update the rule book
That may be the case, but as commish (even if there was no rule prohibiting such an action) I would definitely reverse the move as if it had never happened. If this is not a dynasty league and there is no toilet bowl, then there is absolutely no reason a team, whose season is over, should be permitted to make moves. It's common sense."Playing the role of spoiler" is weak sauce when the team's season is already over.
On what grounds. The "I forgot to write it into the rulebook" clause?
On the grounds that as commish, I make decisions on things in the best interest of the league as a whole. I would never even want such a clause cluttering up my rulebook. It's common sense. A team in a redraft league who has no more games and has been eliminated has no reason to make a move. Any reasonable person can see that and would not use the ultra weak argument that they should be allowed to make the move b/c the rulebook doesn't prohibit it.
Nice, act snotty because someone doesn't agree with you. :lol: It doesn't "clutter" the rulebook to have one line saying "Unless a team is in the playoffs, you may not make WW moves"

Its obviously NOT common sense since someone did it.

Its not a weak argument, its a fact. There is nothing to prohibit it other than your opinion of it being "common sense" which obviously it isn't since it was done. And it was probably gamesmanship by one of the eliminated teams.

And yes, ultimately I do agree with the idea that eliminated teams shouldn't make moves but without a rule to stop you really shouldn't arbitrarily reverse it as a commish. That will end up leading to hard feelings unless its a very tight knit group of owners.
huh? Are we talking about the same thing?I am referring to a redraft league team whose regular season is over and did not make the playoffs and we are talking about this team making rosters add/drops once their season is officially over. I am saying these teams should not be able to make moves since it is unnecessary and serves no purpose.

I think of "playing the role of spoiler" as a team who is out of the playoff hunt and brings it to defeat a team in the playoff hunt near the end of the regular season. You think of it as a team whose season is over trying to pick up players to screw the teams who are in the playoffs? That's horrible gamesmanship and in extremely poor taste.

For a commish to reverse these type of moves is a good thing since there is no justifiable point in them. This won't lead to hard feelings. What will lead to hard feelings is allowing this BS to take place and having the playoff teams wondering why a team whose season is over is still making add/drops of viable players in a redraft league.

I understand you strongly disagree with me, but your argument couldn't be more ridiculous. Just b/c there is not an official rule? If the team was serving it's own best interest with a pickup then I could see your point, but a team whose season is over has no business making add/drops in a redraft league. Common sense trumps the lack of a rule prohibiting it. Sometimes the commish needs to make a fair and unbiased call for the good of the league --- this is one of those times.

Like others have said previously, I make sure I lock the teams whose season are over from making add/drops so that this doesn't become an issue.
Your common sense is way different than mine. I consider it common sense to give the owners an incentive to PLAY every single week. We have a high score payout every week, for 17 weeks. Even if you're knocked out of the playoffs, there's still a financial reason to submit a lineup and try to win. We also do a toilet bowl for the teams that dont make the playoffs. But even if that wasnt the case, I'd hope that my owners were making side bets here and there. I bet a night of drinks with another owner a few weeks ago over who'd win our game. If I ever get knocked out of the playoffs I almost always follow it up with a side bet.Common sense to me is setting up a league that's fun and encourages the owners to put a lineup in every week. Common sense tells me only a terrible commish would not only encourage his owners to NOT put in a good lineup, but actually enforce that they don't compete. Common sense tells me that's a terrible league that I wouldn't want any part of.

 
Your common sense is way different than mine. I consider it common sense to give the owners an incentive to PLAY every single week. We have a high score payout every week, for 17 weeks. Even if you're knocked out of the playoffs, there's still a financial reason to submit a lineup and try to win. We also do a toilet bowl for the teams that dont make the playoffs. But even if that wasnt the case, I'd hope that my owners were making side bets here and there. I bet a night of drinks with another owner a few weeks ago over who'd win our game. If I ever get knocked out of the playoffs I almost always follow it up with a side bet.Common sense to me is setting up a league that's fun and encourages the owners to put a lineup in every week. Common sense tells me only a terrible commish would not only encourage his owners to NOT put in a good lineup, but actually enforce that they don't compete. Common sense tells me that's a terrible league that I wouldn't want any part of.
I think you are having a different conversation than the one I was having. I agree with everything you said given that the leagues you are referring to are different than the one I was referring to. My comments were about a redraft league for a team who is no longer playing (as opposed to a team that still is facing an opponent in league play) where there is no toilet bowl. If teams want to have side action with other teams in this type of league after they are done playing their league games then I have no problem with that. Allowing teams who are done playing to make adds/drops in the exact type of league I am referring to, though, is something that the overwhelming majority of people would frown upon.
 
And yes, ultimately I do agree with the idea that eliminated teams shouldn't make moves but without a rule to stop you really shouldn't arbitraily reverse it as a commish. That will end up leading to hard feelings unless its a very tight knit group of owners.
You think that allowing a team that's done playing to snarf free agents from the teams still in the playoffs will not lead to hard feelings?
Definitely depends on the league. I let my guys make moves after they're done, but more because we're a close group and screwing other owners is acceptable, if not encouraged. Classless, sure... but so are fart jokes and they're still funny in the right context. Nothing a beer can't fix.Standard iLeagues I'll go with the masses and say you should lock eliminated owners ( I really think you should lock EVERYONE during the playoffs, but whatever ), though I have to admit that Zoomanji has a point. If it wasn't in the rulebook then its a tough sell to say the commish should act. I understand the desire to do so... its with the best of intentions, and there's little logic behind the guy keeping the player. But I believe having that kind of executive power is a slippery slope. Really feels more like a "damn, guys, I should have made that rule. We'll put it in next year" situation. For the time being, either convince the eliminated guy to drop the player back to the pool, or let him have his laughs by getting back at the kids that are still in the money.If there's not a rule then there's not a rule. I don't like the precedent of simply creating one in week 14 of the season, regardless of how well intended. I'd personally make the rule for '09 and tell the playoff bound teams to man up, but that's just me.A question though... how relevant are the FAs that we're talking about here? Is it really enough for anyone to get their panties bunched about? Is Larry Johnson on the wire in these leagues? If so, I guess my question to the owner that's mad about eliminated teams making a pickup would be, "Why didn't you get this guy 3 weeks ago?"
 
Standard iLeagues I'll go with the masses and say you should lock eliminated owners ( I really think you should lock EVERYONE during the playoffs, but whatever ), though I have to admit that Zoomanji has a point. If it wasn't in the rulebook then its a tough sell to say the commish should act. I understand the desire to do so... its with the best of intentions, and there's little logic behind the guy keeping the player. But I believe having that kind of executive power is a slippery slope. Really feels more like a "damn, guys, I should have made that rule. We'll put it in next year" situation. For the time being, either convince the eliminated guy to drop the player back to the pool, or let him have his laughs by getting back at the kids that are still in the money.If there's not a rule then there's not a rule. I don't like the precedent of simply creating one in week 14 of the season, regardless of how well intended. I'd personally make the rule for '09 and tell the playoff bound teams to man up, but that's just me.
My school of thought put these meaningless adds the same as dropping quality players, which is something that would get more people's attention. I mean, you wouldn't allow a team to drop players like Cutler, Gore, Boldin, etc... after their season was over....obviously! ... right? I know that a "devil's advocate" type of response might be that there should be a rule prohibiting that, though. It goes along the same line of thinking as adding players ... if your league play is completely over in a redraft league then there is no reason you should be or need to make any player moves.
A question though... how relevant are the FAs that we're talking about here? Is it really enough for anyone to get their panties bunched about? Is Larry Johnson on the wire in these leagues? If so, I guess my question to the owner that's mad about eliminated teams making a pickup would be, "Why didn't you get this guy 3 weeks ago?"
Once you start getting into "who" is when people have differing opinions. It's the principle of the matter, not the significance of who is getting added and dropped. The principle is that adding/dropping players does not serve the interest of the team performing the add/drop since that team's season is over. Again, my comments were strictly about a redraft league where this is no toilet bowl or other league activity once a team's regular season is over.
 
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I'm in a redraft league with no toilet bowl. Only payouts are to the Super bowl participants, and the division winners. One knucklehead in our league was making all sorts of adds/drops last season, during weeks 14 - 16 despite not making the playoffs. This really irritated some owners, particularly one playoff participant who needed help for one position.

Fast forward to this year. Same knucklehead didn't make the playoffs again, and started making moves again after the games last week. Guy who got pissed at him last year, didn't make the playoffs this year, so he made an add/drop and floated the idea of cutting his entire team in an attempt to cause chaos as some form of protest against letting non-playoff participants make moves.

I sent our commish an email, stating that owners out of the playoffs had no legitimate reason for making any moves, and there was a rumor that at least one owner was going to drop all of his players. Commish instantly froze the rosters of all non-playoff participants. He said it was pathetic that it had to come to that, which I agreed. Problem solved.

 
Im curious to see how you guys feel about this scenario.

Redraft, with toilet bowl - 12 teams (6 playoffs teams) - $100 entry fee-

our toilet bowl winner gets 1% ($11) of the pot which is equivalent to a weekly points champ. the playoff teams get 2%($22) of the pot just for making the playoffs.

We have an owner in the toilet bowl playing who lost his TE and does not have a back up. he is complaining about not being able to do moves.

to solve this I can take away the 1% prize for the toilet, but to me it seems like such a small prize this should be a none issue. but it is.

 
Im curious to see how you guys feel about this scenario.

Redraft, with toilet bowl - 12 teams (6 playoffs teams) - $100 entry fee-

our toilet bowl winner gets 1% ($11) of the pot which is equivalent to a weekly points champ. the playoff teams get 2%($22) of the pot just for making the playoffs.

We have an owner in the toilet bowl playing who lost his TE and does not have a back up. he is complaining about not being able to do moves.



to solve this I can take away the 1% prize for the toilet, but to me it seems like such a small prize this should be a none issue. but it is.
wat? Not sure you should try to pull that off this season.The point made by most people in this thread is that the ability to make moves should only be restricted if the owner is done for the year. If you allow Super Bowl playoff owners to make moves, I don't think restricting Toilet Bowl owners is reasonable. They might be playing for a smaller amount, but they're still playing for something.

 
Keeper league.

Once you're eliminated, you may no longer make any moves.

For teams that are still in contention, you can make moves, but any player dropped is off of your roster and can't be kept. Any player picked up is returned to the player pool after the playoffs.

So essentially, any moves made during the playoffs means both players involved will be in the draft pool the next year. That way none of the non-playoff teams lose anything and none of the playoff teams gain any extra players for the next year.

 
Im curious to see how you guys feel about this scenario.

Redraft, with toilet bowl - 12 teams (6 playoffs teams) - $100 entry fee-

our toilet bowl winner gets 1% ($11) of the pot which is equivalent to a weekly points champ. the playoff teams get 2%($22) of the pot just for making the playoffs.

We have an owner in the toilet bowl playing who lost his TE and does not have a back up. he is complaining about not being able to do moves.



to solve this I can take away the 1% prize for the toilet, but to me it seems like such a small prize this should be a none issue. but it is.
wat? Not sure you should try to pull that off this season.The point made by most people in this thread is that the ability to make moves should only be restricted if the owner is done for the year. If you allow Super Bowl playoff owners to make moves, I don't think restricting Toilet Bowl owners is reasonable. They might be playing for a smaller amount, but they're still playing for something.
don't worry all this would be for next years rules.I would not want non playoff teams making moves. technically they are done for the year.

the only reason its for just 1% is so they have something to play for. I see this canceled out since all the teams to made the playoffs get 2% off the bat.

 
First time, long timeWe have an owner in our leage, pickles> hi, that picked up waiver wire players this week(first week of the playoffs) even though he is out. Is this:a. bad formb. great shtickc. perfectly fineI think i'ts a and b but those players should probably be put back in the WW pool.
If your league rules allows it how can it be anything but OK. I will add thisd. our rules suck and should be changed to "no WW pickup in the playoff for anyone".
 
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Keeper league. Once you're eliminated, you may no longer make any moves.For teams that are still in contention, you can make moves, but any player dropped is off of your roster and can't be kept. Any player picked up is returned to the player pool after the playoffs.So essentially, any moves made during the playoffs means both players involved will be in the draft pool the next year. That way none of the non-playoff teams lose anything and none of the playoff teams gain any extra players for the next year.
We do the exact same thing and it has worked well. If you still have something to play for it shouldn't be restricted, but at the same time it shouldn't cost the teams that are out of it.
 

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