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Ministry of Pain

Ministry of Pain

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Seriously, they blanked the bed today, I just don't understand. everytime I think this is going to be their year they screw it up. They allow a rookie to throw for almost 300 yds, and Schaub tosses for 160, Slaton did nothing, AJ did nothing, Daniels was pretty quiet...what happened?

 
I think they were overconfident, and thrown off balance by Ryan's defensive schemes. I have a feeling they will rebound in a big way next week. Look for Slaton and AJ to have much better numbers (not that they could be worse!)

But in terms of non-fantasy, I just don't see this team going anywhere with Schaub as a QB. He does not impress me as a guy who can get it done.

 
I somehow managed to not get any Texans on any of my squads, which aggravated me, but I was shocked at what happened today. I think they will bounce back, but talk about crapping the bed.

 
Since I have Schaub as my QB on two teams, I'm hoping that they aren't as bad as they looked today. Maybe Ryan is that good at defense. He sure shut down Johnson and Slaton. :lmao:

 
Texans fan who quit watching after that 3rd quarter drive. :sadbanana: (OK, I lied. I watched the remainder of the :lmao: )

Pretty sad when there is nothing good to talk about.

 
Sure enough ugly start to the season, hope we right the ship next week. Jets D looked good. Rex Ryan looks to be the real deal.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Don't get this at all.
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What's to get? Houston has had some awesome drafts, it's time for them to come up in the ranks, it's really not FF but more NFL slant and they allow a rookie QB to march in and beat them today. That's what I don't get.
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They were completly out coached today. Rex Ryan is a hell of a coach and has that defense playing at a high level.Again though the Texans will score a ton of points this season...today was just not their day. And it was week 1.
 
Besides being outcoached and showing a general lack of toughness, the Texans did not create any holes in the running game, failed to protect the QB, and missed numerous tackles. It was an all around pathetic performance. somebody said the Texans were overconfident. Disagree, they played with no sense of confidence, no swagger at all. I had flahbacks to the 2005 season.

 
timschochet said:
I think they were overconfident, and thrown off balance by Ryan's defensive schemes. I have a feeling they will rebound in a big way next week. Look for Slaton and AJ to have much better numbers (not that they could be worse!)But in terms of non-fantasy, I just don't see this team going anywhere with Schaub as a QB. He does not impress me as a guy who can get it done.
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I wouldn't mind buying low on those guys for the long haul, but:Hard to see them rebounding on the road next week where they traditionally blow, against a team that has owned them, coming off 10 days rest. Also hard to believe a historically slow-starting team that's never made the playoffs was overconfident.
 
Houston was not game plan prepared for what the Jets threw at them. First lesson.... double team Jenkins,or he will ruin your day. No center can handle him one on one. Schaub was heavilly pressured all day, and there didn't seem to be any half time adjustments. AJ was often doubled, and Walter being out hurt.

The Jets aren't that good, and the Texans aren't that bad. Thay had no regular season film to game plan against this Ryan defense. Ryan also got cute with some wrinkles... Lito Sheppard, the guy who kept getting burnt in the preseason did not get a starter's quota of snaps. That was a Ryan curve ball.

I did expect Houston to pressure Sanchez more, but they let him off the hook because they over prepared to stop the run... which they did effectively. They made the rookie beat them... and he did.

 
I'm just as baffled.. and the Jets without 2 good pass rushers. Schaub and Daniels killed me today. Lots of people were starting Texans players.

 
The Texans killed me in my one league today (luckily Jennings just bailed me out at the last minute).

I started Schaub and Slaton.

Hopefully this is just a case of...the JETS D is just that good this year.

 
As good as the Jets D looked against a good offense today, the Ravens looked almost as disappointing against a mediocre offense with its third string QB in the game. Tip your cap to Rex Ryan, at least for this week.

 
Plus it is the first week of the season. Weirdness sometimes happens in the first week that doesn't really show what can be expected. It's definitely to early for me to be concerned about Schaub or Slaton.

 
I think the difference is that, like his father, Rex Ryan is simply a defensive genius. Why do you think Baltimore was so great? Their players werent THAT much better than everyone else.

I think we see a big rebound against TEN next week, although maybe not for Slaton.

 
Instinctive said:
I think the difference is that, like his father, Rex Ryan is simply a defensive genius. Why do you think Baltimore was so great? Their players werent THAT much better than everyone else.I think we see a big rebound against TEN next week, although maybe not for Slaton.
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It's true...the Ryan's know defense!!! Buddy is still loved here in Philly and always will be for the defenses he put on the field when he coached here.
 
SmashEmUp said:
Instinctive said:
I think the difference is that, like his father, Rex Ryan is simply a defensive genius. Why do you think Baltimore was so great? Their players werent THAT much better than everyone else.I think we see a big rebound against TEN next week, although maybe not for Slaton.
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It's true...the Ryan's know defense!!! Buddy is still loved here in Philly and always will be for the defenses he put on the field when he coached here.
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And even with that said...watchign the whole game even when he wasn't pressured Schaub didn't make very good throws. Just like Romo in the first half...except Romo fixed it at halftime.I may start JaMarcus week 2 vs KC
 
Instinctive said:
SmashEmUp said:
Instinctive said:
I think the difference is that, like his father, Rex Ryan is simply a defensive genius. Why do you think Baltimore was so great? Their players werent THAT much better than everyone else.I think we see a big rebound against TEN next week, although maybe not for Slaton.
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It's true...the Ryan's know defense!!! Buddy is still loved here in Philly and always will be for the defenses he put on the field when he coached here.
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And even with that said...watchign the whole game even when he wasn't pressured Schaub didn't make very good throws. Just like Romo in the first half...except Romo fixed it at halftime.I may start JaMarcus week 2 vs KC
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Jets fan here.... and I will start Schaub next week in one league over Rothlisberger. The Jets had him rattled. He'll be fine.
 
Yeah, Jets D deserves a huge amount of credit. They dominated the game.

I don't think I've seen Schaub be this inaccurate before. Even when he had time he frequently missed or threw behind receivers. Even apart from the pressure and that the Jets secondary was doing a great job in coverage, I thought he just plain played poorly.

Kudos to the Jets and their coaching staff for putting together a gem of a defensive game.

 
Yeah the jets def scheme was nice. Kept Schaub offbeat and throwing off the back feet all day. He made alot of horrible throws.

They had no sense of urgency at all....they did look like our 05 team on O. lol...damn.

But i will say this. Our D line and linebackers are very much improved. Cushin and Ryan are going to cause havok.

 
Rovers said:
Instinctive said:
SmashEmUp said:
Instinctive said:
I think the difference is that, like his father, Rex Ryan is simply a defensive genius. Why do you think Baltimore was so great? Their players werent THAT much better than everyone else.I think we see a big rebound against TEN next week, although maybe not for Slaton.
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It's true...the Ryan's know defense!!! Buddy is still loved here in Philly and always will be for the defenses he put on the field when he coached here.
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And even with that said...watchign the whole game even when he wasn't pressured Schaub didn't make very good throws. Just like Romo in the first half...except Romo fixed it at halftime.I may start JaMarcus week 2 vs KC
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Jets fan here.... and I will start Schaub next week in one league over Rothlisberger. The Jets had him rattled. He'll be fine.
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wow that season opener sucked. but i think the houston O will be fine. Rex Ryan did the same thing to the texans last year with Baltimore.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Don't get this at all.
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What's to get? Houston has had some awesome drafts, it's time for them to come up in the ranks, it's really not FF but more NFL slant and they allow a rookie QB to march in and beat them today. That's what I don't get.
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it's only week 1, they're sure to improve on yesterday's dreadful loss..remember too that Ryan wanted to make a splash in his NFL head coaching debut.he accomplished that task. He probably put ( much) more time and effort into this game, than the Houston coaching staff did.. :coffee:
 
SmashEmUp said:
Instinctive said:
I think the difference is that, like his father, Rex Ryan is simply a defensive genius. Why do you think Baltimore was so great? Their players werent THAT much better than everyone else.I think we see a big rebound against TEN next week, although maybe not for Slaton.
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It's true...the Ryan's know defense!!! Buddy is still loved here in Philly and always will be for the defenses he put on the field when he coached here.
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Of course Philly fans like a guy who put up a bounty for taking players out.
 
SmashEmUp said:
Instinctive said:
I think the difference is that, like his father, Rex Ryan is simply a defensive genius. Why do you think Baltimore was so great? Their players werent THAT much better than everyone else.

I think we see a big rebound against TEN next week, although maybe not for Slaton.
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It's true...the Ryan's know defense!!! Buddy is still loved here in Philly and always will be for the defenses he put on the field when he coached here.
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Cleveland fans may disagree.
 
I feel like they'd be getting a pass from a lot more people if this had happened against last year's Baltimore D in week 1. People haven't adjusted yet to the idea that the Jets have stolen the heart and mind of that D, and have plenty of talent of their own to make it work.

I think people are panicking about the fact that they have Texans already, when they ought to be panicking when they see the Jets coming up on their players' schedules instead. I don't they're going to be a legendary D, but they're going to cause some havoc.

 
An inauspicious start for sure, but from a FANTASY perspective, remember that last year Schaub threw for 202 yards and 2 INTs in Week One last year, while Owen Daniels was a virtual non factor. Don't panic (yet).

 
Happy Ragnarok said:
I feel like they'd be getting a pass from a lot more people if this had happened against last year's Baltimore D in week 1. People haven't adjusted yet to the idea that the Jets have stolen the heart and mind of that D, and have plenty of talent of their own to make it work.I think people are panicking about the fact that they have Texans already, when they ought to be panicking when they see the Jets coming up on their players' schedules instead. I don't they're going to be a legendary D, but they're going to cause some havoc.
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VERY :moneybag: As the year wears on, I think we're all going to realize, "Okay, most of it was just that the Jets D is THAT freaking improved". And Houston certainly played like Sh**. They didn't help their own cause. But the Texans won't be the last O that's left scratching their heads against that D.
 
The Jets have the best up the middle combo (Jenkins, Scott and Harris) in the league, a top 3 corner (revis) a big time safety (Rhodes) and a head coach that mastermined the best defense of the last 15 years. I didnt expect this type of performance without Pace, but the talent is there.

Teams will adjust as they see more and more tape on Ryan's schemes, but the Jets are going to be a big time defense. They've got 6 legitimate pro-bowl caliber players (the 5 mentioned above plus Pace)

Hell, even Gholston made some things happen yesterday. anything they get out of him is gravy.

 
It's a function of trying to create a fantasy team with no OL to protect Shoob who is pretty fragile.

I think they thought they could create a triplet type team, but that doesn't work if you can't hold blocks for a 3 count.

 
I watched the game as I didnt have much choice up here in MA. I thought it was the Jets DST that was shining through. It almost looked like the Hou OL/Offensive Coord didnt have an answer for the Defensive schemes. Also though, I was disappointed not seeing more field reversals to counteract the NYJ team speed. Overall I blame the Hou OC.

Outside of Slaton's fumble, I thought was was working hard for everything. The fumble was all on him, but he looked good catching the ball and in the open field. I might even say he is a buy in PPR leagues.

 
I watched most of the game and to be honest, the Texans line couldn't have blocked my grandmother and she's been dead for 20 years. :IBTL:

 
Tanner9919 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Don't get this at all.
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What's to get? Houston has had some awesome drafts, it's time for them to come up in the ranks, it's really not FF but more NFL slant and they allow a rookie QB to march in and beat them today. That's what I don't get.
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it's only week 1, they're sure to improve on yesterday's dreadful loss..remember too that Ryan wanted to make a splash in his NFL head coaching debut.he accomplished that task. He probably put ( much) more time and effort into this game, than the Houston coaching staff did.. :IBTL:
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Ehh Ryan was against an 0-16 team at home and got drilled by the Bucs in his first road start. For a team looking to take the next step, that's a bad loss any way you slice it.
 
FavreCo said:
Reaper said:
Great Picture that tells the story...

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:IBTL: Just noticed the guy to the right. He looks like he is giving the OL-man the business.
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If Jenkins can stay healthy, this D has the potential to be dominating. You can see the difference in the D play calling right from the first Texan possession. 3rd and 12 and instead of rushing only 3 and 8 on coverage, Ryan put the pressure on Schaub. Great Marty Lyons reference!

 
drew726 said:
I wonder if the result would have been different if they had Kevin Walter. That guy is always a wild card.
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Good point. I don't know if he would have been the difference between a win and loss, but he would have opened things up a bit. Not as many double teams on AJ, maybe some more room for Slaton...and better stats for Schaub?Will Walter be back in week 2?
 
Slaton might be a very good buy low candidate after week 2. If there are some over-reactive players in your league it might be a prime chance to snag him for cheap. :confused:

 
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