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[rascal]

Why not...

If I was a Josh Johnson owner I'd be afraid.

Add Lincecum to that list.

Edited by rascal, 11 April 2012 - 05:44 PM.

[elguapo07]

I'm very short on Youk. I own him in one of my leagues and I'm trying to unload him.

[shadyridr]

Timmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaay

[the moops]

Cespedes - Sell High?

[MAC_32]

Cespedes - Sell High?

Given his K:BB rate I would test the waters.

[fred_1_15301]

Why not...

If I was a Josh Johnson owner I'd be afraid.

Add Lincecum to that list.

I haven't watched Johnson pitch this year. Is this start an anomaly or is he really in trouble?

[Wrigley]

Owner in my league just stated that Timmy can be had for a bag of balls and a beer.

I'm going to test these waters.

[Grahamburn]

Why not...

If I was a Josh Johnson owner I'd be afraid.

Add Lincecum to that list.

I haven't watched Johnson pitch this year. Is this start an anomaly or is he really in trouble?

I only saw updates on MLB tonight, but it seemed like the majority of the basehits were given up on his fastball. Low 90s and flat.

[Smack Tripper]

Cespedes - Sell High?

I'm trying to get him hot and strong into May to build his value, mid may and see what looks like an undervalued asset that I can target. Trouble is, he's a pretty good look right now in 6x6 and I'd have to be motivated to move him.

When Lawrie started 0-8 I had delusions of maybe making that sort of flip, but i think I'm dreaming. BUT, maybe Cespedes becomes someone to build a package around.

Big sells on Gardner and LoMo. Both are going to have their playing time eaten into but maybe you can find someone who's interested in them. I'm contemplating trying to get agressive moving Braun, just a bad feel there but he's started off hot.

And I might be a kool-aid drinkin fool, but I'd buy on Trumbo and A-Rod. I would think Luebke might be had after his first two starts too. Probably buy on Montero too, but I don't know what the expectation level is for him.

Edited by Smack Tripper, 12 April 2012 - 08:08 AM.

[MAC_32]

Big sells on Gardner and LoMo. Both are going to have their playing time eaten into but maybe you can find someone who's interested in them.

I think it'll be tough sledding now that the news is already out there. Thankfully the only league I'm invested in either is a daily league with LoMo. I get to play the merry-go-round of starting 2 of LoMo vs. righties, Heyward vs. righties, Bourjos vs. lefties, and Venable vs. righties (preferably away from Petco). Had hopes that Reimold would take off too, but given his leash he has about 2-3 weeks to start producing or he's going to slide down the lineup and instead of starting 2 out of every 3 days may just get lefties and the occasional righty.

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Cespedes - Sell High?

I'm trying to get him hot and strong into May to build his value, mid may and see what looks like an undervalued asset that I can target. Trouble is, he's a pretty good look right now in 6x6 and I'd have to be motivated to move him.

When Lawrie started 0-8 I had delusions of maybe making that sort of flip, but i think I'm dreaming. BUT, maybe Cespedes becomes someone to build a package around.

Big sells on Gardner and LoMo. Both are going to have their playing time eaten into but maybe you can find someone who's interested in them. I'm contemplating trying to get agressive moving Braun, just a bad feel there but he's started off hot.

And I might be a kool-aid drinkin fool, but I'd buy on Trumbo and A-Rod. I would think Luebke might be had after his first two starts too. Probably buy on Montero too, but I don't know what the expectation level is for him.

Funny I was trying to make a move on both Cespedes AND Lawrie to a guy that is built for now. I won the league two straight years but am now in a bit of a rebuilding phase. Pre-pinkie injury I was offering David Wright and either Sin Soo Choo or Nelson Cruz for Lawrie and Cespedes. I thought he would maybe change part of the deal and reoffer, but he flat out refuses to move Lawrie. Can't say I blame him as AI think Lawrie is a budding star.

[shadyridr]

i really wanna trade luebke. I hope he has a good outing soon. He'll be lucky to get 10 wins

[MAC_32]

Owner in my league just stated that Timmy can be had for a bag of balls and a beer.

I'm going to test these waters.

Tread lightly, given his velo me thinks there may be other issues we'll learn about later this month. I'm not pitching a buy low offer for at least another start or two.

[Eephus]

Owner in my league just stated that Timmy can be had for a bag of balls and a beer.

I'm going to test these waters.

Tread lightly, given his velo me thinks there may be other issues we'll learn about later this month. I'm not pitching a buy low offer for at least another start or two.

He's pitched his way out of similar problems before (Aug 2010). His first start was due to a bad inning and a half, he looked solid in-between those. Last night was just the Cosmos overreacting to the Zito shutout in the preceding game.

I still believe in Timmy

[Dr. Awesome]

Cespedes - Sell High?

i really wanna trade luebke. I hope he has a good outing soon. He'll be lucky to get 10 wins

I'm buying both. I've got other pitchers for the wins - Luebke should help everywhere else. Especially the k's. It seems folks are eager to dump Cespedes. I'm buying if I can get him cheap enough.

[Eephus]

Cespedes - Sell High?

i really wanna trade luebke. I hope he has a good outing soon. He'll be lucky to get 10 wins

I'm buying both. I've got other pitchers for the wins - Luebke should help everywhere else. Especially the k's. It seems folks are eager to dump Cespedes. I'm buying if I can get him cheap enough.

[MAC_32]

Owner in my league just stated that Timmy can be had for a bag of balls and a beer.

I'm going to test these waters.

Tread lightly, given his velo me thinks there may be other issues we'll learn about later this month. I'm not pitching a buy low offer for at least another start or two.

He's pitched his way out of similar problems before (Aug 2010). His first start was due to a bad inning and a half, he looked solid in-between those. Last night was just the Cosmos overreacting to the Zito shutout in the preceding game.

I still believe in Timmy

I hope he corrects himself like he did in that ugly August, if I had him anywhere I'd hold and not jump ship. If he doesn't have a great start in the next outing or two but the velo comes back I'd buy.

[MAC_32]

i really wanna trade luebke. I hope he has a good outing soon. He'll be lucky to get 10 wins

I'm not looking to trade yet, but I do wonder if the rest of the league has caught up to him. If so and he doesn't adjust he becomes a west coast only guy for me unfortunately.

[Eephus]

i really wanna trade luebke. I hope he has a good outing soon. He'll be lucky to get 10 wins

I'm not looking to trade yet, but I do wonder if the rest of the league has caught up to him. If so and he doesn't adjust he becomes a west coast only guy for me unfortunately.

I think a lot of people projecting a breakout were forgetting that Luebke was a 26 year old rookie who pitched a quarter of 2011 innings in relief. I think he'll rebound and be usable as a spot starter at home but he's always been a high regression risk from last year's results.

[Dr. Awesome]

Cespedes - Sell High?

i really wanna trade luebke. I hope he has a good outing soon. He'll be lucky to get 10 wins

I'm buying both. I've got other pitchers for the wins - Luebke should help everywhere else. Especially the k's. It seems folks are eager to dump Cespedes. I'm buying if I can get him cheap enough.

But I'm not convinced he's going to crash as much as folks think. He's obviously not going to keep up the home run rate. But he's improved a lot since his spring debut. I don't know if he'll continue to make improvements but I'd like to find out with him on my roster. I may be a homer but I'm not that stupid. I don't have any A's on my roster. I'll stream Milone/Parker/Colon or maybe a bat as needed but have a limited interest in rostering others. But Cespedes? Very interested in seeing if he can continue to make strides. We know he has talent - after all, you saw the youtube video.

[shadyridr]

Cespedes - Sell High?

i really wanna trade luebke. I hope he has a good outing soon. He'll be lucky to get 10 wins

I'm buying both. I've got other pitchers for the wins - Luebke should help everywhere else. Especially the k's. It seems folks are eager to dump Cespedes. I'm buying if I can get him cheap enough.

Hard to rack up K's when you can only last 4 or 5 innings due to control issues

[MAC_32]

i really wanna trade luebke. I hope he has a good outing soon. He'll be lucky to get 10 wins

I'm not looking to trade yet, but I do wonder if the rest of the league has caught up to him. If so and he doesn't adjust he becomes a west coast only guy for me unfortunately.

I think a lot of people projecting a breakout were forgetting that Luebke was a 26 year old rookie who pitched a quarter of 2011 innings in relief. I think he'll rebound and be usable as a spot starter at home but he's always been a high regression risk from last year's results.

I didn't get him in any of my redrafts because people saw that potential, I didn't, had him in that 40-50 range in which I got Sale, Minor, Floyd, and McCarthy in most of my leagues. I was expecting a little better than this though. About 6 IP's/gm, K/IP, more walks, low wins, but still plus ratios and unlike other Padres pitchers you can start him all of the time and not just 60% of the time. Not looking forward to trying to find those 50 IP's I'd lose with Leubke in guys like Homer and Capuano who I only drafted as insurance but with Baker gone they're looking like guys I'll have to use. Oof.

[MAC_32]

Why not...

If I was a Josh Johnson owner I'd be afraid.

Add Lincecum to that list.

I haven't watched Johnson pitch this year. Is this start an anomaly or is he really in trouble?

I only saw updates on MLB tonight, but it seemed like the majority of the basehits were given up on his fastball. Low 90s and flat.

Yep, he's not trusting his breaking stuff even though the heat isn't getting guys out. Probably worried about injury again. He's a hold, but it doesn't look good, just don't think sellers can get enough for him right now.

[pollardsvision]

Cespedes - Sell High?

i really wanna trade luebke. I hope he has a good outing soon. He'll be lucky to get 10 wins

I'm buying both. I've got other pitchers for the wins - Luebke should help everywhere else. Especially the k's. It seems folks are eager to dump Cespedes. I'm buying if I can get him cheap enough.

Hard to rack up K's when you can only last 4 or 5 innings due to control issues

Depends on the league.
If there's an innings limit, it's essentially a game of K/9 rates. They guy tossing 5 IP with 4 or 5 Ks is helping alot more than the guy going 8 with 5 or 6 Ks.

Not that the 5 IP starter with control issues doesn't come with a host of other problems, but a guy that gets a lot of K's without eating up a lot of innings can certainly help the cause of chasing K's in an IP limit league.

[Woogie Lee]

Why not...

If I was a Josh Johnson owner I'd be afraid.

Add Lincecum to that list.

I'm confused. Are we selling low?

[MAC_32]

Why not...

If I was a Josh Johnson owner I'd be afraid.

Add Lincecum to that list.

I'm confused. Are we selling low?

I took it as - is he a buy low? and I'd rather not unless I can get him for a bag of balls

[Northern Voice]

Bautista's timing looks to be coming back around, won't match last two seasons but he'll still put up a big OBP and the HR's may start to come in bunches here soon. Maybe some owners have soured on him?

[cheese]

Time to deal Hamilton for an uberstud IMO. With his stats so far this year, you're probably doing great on offense if you've got him. No reason to play the lottery on him playing out the season for once. Swap him for a Pujols/Miggy/Votto type IMO and get off the roller coaster high. I think with his numbers and hype surrounding the 4 hrs, you can fetch nearly anybody right now.

This is also a great time to deal pitching for hitting if you need it. Your pitcher stats will never look better than they do right now.

[shadyridr]

Im seeing what I can get for jup

[SwampDawg]

I'm shopping Mike Minor before he loses all value.

[rascal]

Your pitcher stats will never look better than they do right now.

that scares the hell out of me

[cheese]

Your pitcher stats will never look better than they do right now.

that scares the hell out of me

It's a general statement. If you're rolling with Josh Johnson and Heath Bell, maybe not.

[the moops]

Im seeing what I can get for jup

How is he a sell high?

[shadyridr]

Im seeing what I can get for jup

How is he a sell high?

Trying to sell before his value plummets any further

[shadyridr]

Bautista's timing looks to be coming back around, won't match last two seasons but he'll still put up a big OBP and the HR's may start to come in bunches here soon. Maybe some owners have soured on him?

I just offered JUP for Bautista & Haren in my keeper league

[jamny]

jup?

[the moops]

Im seeing what I can get for jup

How is he a sell high?

Trying to sell before his value plummets any further

I'm trying to get him in my league. Guy turned down McCutchen and ARod for him.

[shadyridr]

Im seeing what I can get for jup

How is he a sell high?

Trying to sell before his value plummets any further

I'm trying to get him in my league. Guy turned down McCutchen and ARod for him.

best Ive been offered so far is Haren & Beltran. Tempting

[SouthJersey]

Anyone traded Harper in a non-keeper league? What kind of value were you able to get back for him?

[Wrigley]

Im seeing what I can get for jup

How is he a sell high?

Trying to sell before his value plummets any further

I'm trying to get him in my league. Guy turned down McCutchen and ARod for him.

best Ive been offered so far is Haren & Beltran. Tempting

Hmmmm, I'm tinkering around with offering up Adam Jones and a pitcher(Samardzija/Dempster)for him

Then I see what Jones has done so far......and start to think I'm offering too much

[MAC_32]

Just dealt Kimbrel and A Rod for Tex in a head to head league

[rascal]

Tommy Hanson by the end of the month could be a good buy low:

Check out his upcoming May schedule
@STL
@TB
@CIN
STL

June as of now he is in line for inter league matchups with TOR, BAL, and @NYY.

[Doctor Detroit]

I think buying Jupton is the shark move.

[shadyridr]

I think buying Jupton is the shark move.

I know. Hes just been so frustrating so far. Ill relent

[scrumptrulescent]

I think buying Jupton is the shark move.

Sure is. I'm an owner and frankly, he pisses me off with all his K's. I don't typically sell low though.

It's humorous to see the bad offers I'm getting for him, like Jon Jay and Ricky Nolasco. Yippee!

[rascal]

What about Cano?

[cheese]

Just dealt Kimbrel and A Rod for Tex in a head to head league

Tex is in this thread every year and he pays off 2nd half every year. It's amazing that people still draft him and then give up on him.

[The Flying Elvis]

What about Cano?

I'd buy low. He always starts off pretty slow and there really isn't anything to indicate he is due for a down year. He is what, 29? In his prime so you can probably put him down for .290+ 25-30 HRs and 100 RBIs by the end of the year.

[Kraft...]

Matt Moore? Talent is there, I think he figures it out.

[rascal]

Matt Moore? Talent is there, I think he figures it out.

As an owner, I would be too scared of buyers remorse to trade him. But if it was good enough, I would trade him. He is really pissing me off. Much like the rest of my pitching staff (Lester, Gallardo till yesterday, Scherzer, Romero, Garcia, and Masterson).