moleculo
Footballguy
reply posted. I'll be checking back in closer to Sunday - still not sure how I feel about this one.
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Demaryius Thomas (1 Viewer)
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Seriously? @ St. Louis?I'm in the same boat, but I can't see myself sitting Moss.
Devil in the Detail
Footballguy
Better QB, better passing offense, better physical metrics and college performance, and Thomas doesn't have a year of underperformance (including drops) on his resume.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Thomas stat line last week (1 game): 8-97-1DHB stat line last YEAR (11 games): 9-124-1Keep in mind, this is with Thomas missing TC and preseason with the foot injury. Simply put, one has a ton more talent, gobs more upside, and doesn't play for the Raiders.Now some of that is tongue in cheek - I actually like DHB's chances of becoming a reliable WR - just not nearly as much as Thomas'.
dagwood
Footballguy
Lets compare apples to applesLast week DHB stats 6-80-0 with 13 targets.Gradkowski played only about 2 quarters and DHB stats for those 2 qtrs 5-74-0 with 9 targetsThe physical size and speed are similar.
DoubleG
Footballguy
You cherry picked DHB's last game (which happens to be the best game of his career to this point), after a season + in the league and compared it to D. Thomas debut, in which he only played a handful of series' without any TC or preseason - how exactly is that "apples to apples"?
Judo czop!
Footballguy
Worried about all the DThomas fanboys on here but how would you rank these 3 waiver wire possibilities in a scoring distance league?
Mine:
1 DThomas
2 MClayton
3 Williams(TB)
Mine:
1 DThomas
2 MClayton
3 Williams(TB)
dagwood
Footballguy
No I compared DHB's last weeks game to DT's last weeks game. Isn't that about as apples to apples as you can get?
1. Clayton2. Williams3. Thomassubject to change but there seriously needs to be more time on Thomas to put him above the other two. The guy played one professional game and missed all of the preseason.
are you trying to tell me the demyt lovers arent cherrypicking his best/last game to justify him over long time high end fantasy wr performers?
DoubleG
Footballguy
Ummm...no. By that logic Jason Snelling > Frank Gore and ADP, and there's about 35 RBs in the league better than Chris Johnson including Earnest Graham, Correl Buckhalter and Chris Grunkowski.
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
I'm glad I checked out this thread so everybody could fill me in on who they're starting Demaryius Thomas over. I was concerned about everybody's lineup situations this week. But now that that's settled, can someone point me to an informative thread on D.Thomas?
DoubleG
Footballguy
He's better than DHB.
ETA: Actually sometimes the "I'm starting X over Y" at least gives you an idea of where people value a certain player in relation to other players - whcih is exactly what rankings are.
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Chaka
Footballguy
In his first game and vs a high end defense? Yes I do think he will be worse than Delhomme and Moore.I wouldn't start DT over Smith but he is in a much better passing offense than Smith right now.
There were a lot of good facts on Thomas in the first couple of pages. What more are you looking for? Want to know his shoe size or something?
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
The Broncos' goal is not to have a No. 1 receiver, according to Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post.
Sounds like a great goal to have from an NFL perspective but a bad goal to have for us FF schmucks.
EBF
Footballguy
What is the similarity?
DoubleG
Footballguy
How about 13 weeks, since DT had no training camp and the team is basically working him on the fly.How about a simple sig bet? DT>DHB, your sig says "Double G is the FF foshizzle and a genius." DHB>DT, reversed (i.e. my sig will have "Dagwood is the FF foshizzle and a genius")
dagwood
Footballguy
You proved my point if you think this is an even bet. I have been saying that I see the two in the same tier. Your crowd has been saying DT belongs in the AJ/Colston category.So if that is the case, I should get considerable odds for such a long shot bet.
DoubleG
Footballguy
It was a sig bet. Now you want odds? Good lord. I take it that's a no.
dagwood
Footballguy
They are both young First round picks with great size, speed and athletic ability. The both are raw and need to develop their route running and receiver skills.
DT is on a better offense; DHB is a year older and has had 12 months to improve his deficiencies.
I don't think the difference is as great as some of you think.
DT is on a better offense; DHB is a year older and has had 12 months to improve his deficiencies.
I don't think the difference is as great as some of you think.
kingmalaki
Footballguy
I picked him up in 2 leagues. I'm sitting him for Best in one and for Knox in the other, although I have considered starting him over Knox.
heh, not that i think this is literal, but thus far in the thread no one had mentioned that mcdaniels is arguably a negative for demaryius. he did only play 2 series last game. will mcdaniels let him play more? who knows, but i wouldnt trust a damn thing out of his mouth leading up to gameday.
i have this same decision and have been leaning demaryius over knox. i think demaryius has a higher ceiling but knox has a far higher floor.
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
for what its worth I spent $42.21 out of $100, I probably over paid but I wanted him as crabtree was my #3 and I think he has a solid shot at being a #1 this season.
PahtyTom
Footballguy
hey guys no one cares about your sig bets
Thomas is a ballsy/risky play this week if your are sitting proven guys like Steve Smith for him, but it is not a stupid play imo. Depending on your own situation and outlook, it can make perfect sense or no sense. Thomas' upside is unknown, which can be a good thing. He could put up 0 catches or he could put up 12 catches. If you wanna shoot for the moon, go for it. The reasons he is so attractive are:
1. His first ever game last week after not playing in over a month
2. He is in good passing offense void of a real #1 WR
3. He is McDaniels guy that was handpicked to replace Brandon Marshall
4. He is not only an athletic freak with great football talent, but also very intelligent
Thomas is a ballsy/risky play this week if your are sitting proven guys like Steve Smith for him, but it is not a stupid play imo. Depending on your own situation and outlook, it can make perfect sense or no sense. Thomas' upside is unknown, which can be a good thing. He could put up 0 catches or he could put up 12 catches. If you wanna shoot for the moon, go for it. The reasons he is so attractive are:
1. His first ever game last week after not playing in over a month
2. He is in good passing offense void of a real #1 WR
3. He is McDaniels guy that was handpicked to replace Brandon Marshall
4. He is not only an athletic freak with great football talent, but also very intelligent
ponchsox
Footballguy
If he caught 8 balls in only 2 series, just think what he can do when he plays the entire game.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
I agree with this. If I had Johnson and Colston I wouldn't start Thomas over them, but I don't. Thomas is a guy who was the top pick at his position and who is remarkably on a lot of waiver wires. He plays for a team that has been throwing a lot and being successful with some average WR talent. I don't think Marshall's 100 grabs last year will vanish in this O and suspect the cream will rise to the top at wideout with the best player getting a big chunk of those grabs. I view Thomas as an upside play for later in the year and a play this week for teams who have average WR talent at WR 3-4.
good upside especially for the price (i.e. WW). kinda reminds me of the MSW 2009 or antonio bryant 2008 where they were talented WRs, not drafted in FF drafts and WW steals that helped teams get to the playoffs. if you're claiming DThomas, what do you have to lose? he's your WR#4 or 5 with potential to be WR#3 and POSSIBLY a WR#2. otherwise, he becomes WW fodder in a couple of weeks....
Chaka
Footballguy
Well if Jeff Legwold says it's true, who are we to argue?
CaptainHook
Footballguy
nope can't watch them if you dont have it...really thinking about buying it now though...
CaptainHook
Footballguy
here we go...looks like orton is in love with him
Neofight
Footballguy
I was able to see them by simply clicking the "OK" button. Not a subscriber.ETA: This is sweet that there is the ability to share these clips; perfect for FF.
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Chaka
Footballguy
I would feel better about him long term if Gaffney wouldn't leap on his back after he scores a TD.
Dought Man
Footballguy
I cant imagine the coach would want to sit this guy for no good reason. If he's healthy, he is going to play more and more each week. They didnt draft him that early to sit him on the sidelines to watch journeyman Jabar Gaffney and company.
Not to mention, they are going to need to throw this week. Figure Indy will put up about 4 scores.
Not to mention, they are going to need to throw this week. Figure Indy will put up about 4 scores.
Neofight
Footballguy
I thought the same thing. Gaffney might be thinking about his job security in doing that.
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
Gaffney bought him a motorcycle and Heliskiing lessons as a welcome gift.
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