Vincent Jackson's Return (wk 12) (2 Viewers)

[Raider Nation]

How many players have we seen that come off a long, extended hold out and either have conditioning problems or pull something the minute they are back?

He's been practicing with the team for weeks. I see no reason why this should be any different than week #1 of the NFL season.Starting him with extreme confidence.

 

[AgentMulder]

I am having a hard time with this one. FBGs has VJ rated really high and I am wondering if that is just the hype or what. Other than he is in the right situation, what other rationale are people using to justify this? How many players have we seen that come off a long, extended hold out and either have conditioning problems or pull something the minute they are back? If I had a dollar for how many times you have heard an announcer talk about, "Well so and so is going to have to get used to GAME SPEED vs just practice speed" when talking about a player post-hold out.I have CJ, Austin, Tampa Mike, Hines Ward and VJ and can only start 2. CJ will be in, but just don't know if I am willing to take a chance on benching Austin to take a gamble on VJ.

I would take my chances with VJ, and of course I'm not saying Austin won't out-perform him this week, but like others have said: he has fresh legs, he is the BEST target right now on that team in a PASS HAPPY offense and this game would appear to have the makings of a shoot out. Austin got how many targets last week? Granted he had a couple TDs but would you really be surprised if VJAX ended up with double digit targets in that offense this week?

 

[Courtjester]

How many players have we seen that come off a long, extended hold out and either have conditioning problems or pull something the minute they are back?

He's been practicing with the team for weeks. I see no reason why this should be any different than week #1 of the NFL season.Starting him with extreme confidence.

I have made the decision I am too, I was just looking to see if there was some angle I was missing to ease my mind over the decision. I would be happy with 80 yards and a TD from him. Anything else would be gravy....

 

[Utter Chaos]

I put him in my lineup this morning as WR3 over Johnny Knox and Steve Smith (car)

 

[Boomer1]

He's in my lineup over a under-performing Fitz......

 

[jackdubl]

I, personally, am seriously considering playing him ahead of Miles Austin. FBG rankings agrees that's the move.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Over Ocho/Knox in one league

Over Moore/Royal in another

Over even worse options in a third

 

[Fullneider]

Lost Nicks and BMW this week, but I was going to start him over BMW anyway, maybe. With Rivers throwing the ball and limited other recievers whats the hang-up?

 

[PR Sparty]

Over Marshall. Expecting 6 catches, 80 yards and a TD

 

[Haberdasher]

I'm have him in over Maclin & Tampa Mike.

*fingers crossed*

 

[kinged]

Over TO-------- way over Randy Moss!

 

[SCT]

over Santana Moss, Mike Thomas, and Steve Smith-Car

 

[HustleBlood]

i put him in my lineup last week just so i didnt miss it

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

oct 14, 1990 there was a similar thread about a guy named jerry rice.

the rest is history.

 

[TitanicHornet]

I would have thought starting him was a no brainer?

 

[tec79]

Choice between CJ, Welker and VJ or a TE....rolling the dice and going with CJ and VJ

 

[mdlane]

I'm have him in over Maclin & Tampa Mike.*fingers crossed*

Me, too - bottom line he just has too much upside.

 

[theToes]

starting him over welker and marshall

 

[Breesisdaman]

Nicks out, TO on the Bench, HArvin on the bench, Jackson in the lineup

 

[Jetdoc]

I have Bowe and Colston starting over him. Lots of upside, but lots of risk for his first game back from a LONG layoff.

 

[CDog]

I am actually torn on this. I have to choose 2 of the below (PPR):

Dwayne Bowe

Larry Fitzgerald

Vincent Jackson

Santonio Holmes

Lineup Dominator has me going Fitz/Jax so that's what I am doing. But I keep picking the wrong 2 receivers in this league. Last week I started Nicks/Fitz (who both had good games), but Bowe/Holmes blew up. Of course I am starting Bradshaw/Morris at RB, so the team has a few issues.

 

[Wombat1]

there is another 3 page thread on this...

 

[FUBAR]

on the bench for Maclin, Dez, AJ and Boldin.

 

[Northbound Train]

No question about it....this is the reason I rostered him all year, for a week like this.

He should be the feature right from the get-go and this could be a high scoring affair....starting with confidence

 

[two_dollars]

Over Ward, over Austin, over Thomas.

Leading my pack of V.Jackson, Manningham, and B. White.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Over Ward, over Austin, over Thomas.Leading my pack of V.Jackson, Manningham, and B. White.

Betty?

 

[two_dollars]

Over Ward, over Austin, over Thomas.Leading my pack of V.Jackson, Manningham, and B. White.

Betty?

It's ok, I have a snicker's bar.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Ok guys calm down, temper your expectations this week for VJ. You have been warned!

Its nice for the lack of depth right now for Rivers, but he could just as easily be used as a decoy, not be in on all the snaps, yada yada

And remember VJ could care less if the Chargers go to the playoffs/sb

Did he tell you this personally or do you have a link? No you dont because you are speculating because thats probably what you would do were you in his shoes but this line of thinking is flawed for the following reasons:1. He doesnt have a ring and sure could use one. Those rings sure are purtty

2. He is still good friends with all his team mates and coaches- The GM sucks but all the Chargers players know that.

3. There is no guarantee that the team he plays for next year or the next 10 years wins a super bowl so every year counts

4. The better he looks playing now the more interested other teams will be- see Michael Vick. Jackson wants those suspensions and driving under the influence chargers to be the last thing on GM's minds.

I could go on but you get the point.

Jackson this week will be huge considering him, T.O. and Harvin for my #3 WR position this week and VJ may get the gig.

You seriously going to bench TO for VJ this week? wtfAll your reasons are weak sauce, and Vick is staying in Philly he ain't going anywhere else

Now do you seriously see why I benched him? Get back to me now after VJ goes off Sunday.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I put him in my lineup this morning as WR3 over Johnny Knox and Steve Smith (car)

How do you know he'll be the WR3 and not WR1. Maybe there should be leagues where you have to rate your own players BEFORE the week starts and if you're right in your ranking of your own team, you get bonus points.Otherwise, whether you put in VJax as your WR3 or WR1, as long as he's starting it doesn't really matter, as long as he gets more points than both of the two you put him in over.I think with Gates out, Floyd nicked up and Patrick Crayton out, anything less than 80 yards and a TD would be a disappointment.I do think the Bolts will try and pound it up the middle with Tolbert but even with that said, they'll have to throw some.

 

[two_dollars]

Ok guys calm down, temper your expectations this week for VJ. You have been warned!

Its nice for the lack of depth right now for Rivers, but he could just as easily be used as a decoy, not be in on all the snaps, yada yada

And remember VJ could care less if the Chargers go to the playoffs/sb

Did he tell you this personally or do you have a link? No you dont because you are speculating because thats probably what you would do were you in his shoes but this line of thinking is flawed for the following reasons:1. He doesnt have a ring and sure could use one. Those rings sure are purtty

2. He is still good friends with all his team mates and coaches- The GM sucks but all the Chargers players know that.

3. There is no guarantee that the team he plays for next year or the next 10 years wins a super bowl so every year counts

4. The better he looks playing now the more interested other teams will be- see Michael Vick. Jackson wants those suspensions and driving under the influence chargers to be the last thing on GM's minds.

I could go on but you get the point.

Jackson this week will be huge considering him, T.O. and Harvin for my #3 WR position this week and VJ may get the gig.

You seriously going to bench TO for VJ this week? wtfAll your reasons are weak sauce, and Vick is staying in Philly he ain't going anywhere else

Now do you seriously see why I benched him? Get back to me now after VJ goes off Sunday.

Yep, I think VJ is pretty much a lock to put up better numbers than TO.

 

[nysportsfan]

starting him over welker and marshall

I probably would have done the same, but I ouch, that stings.

 

[Skipper]

Starting VJ against the team that traded him to me (for Reggie Bush). Hoping that'll make me look smarter than my last-minute decision to start Shaun Hill over Brady.

It's hard to see Jackson not having WR1 numbers from here on out. Crayton and Tutu are nothing special, and Rivers made them look like studs. VJ comes in as a stud, and Rivers will find him.

 

[nysportsfan]

Starting VJ against the team that traded him to me (for Reggie Bush). Hoping that'll make me look smarter than my last-minute decision to start Shaun Hill over Brady.It's hard to see Jackson not having WR1 numbers from here on out. Crayton and Tutu are nothing special, and Rivers made them look like studs. VJ comes in as a stud, and Rivers will find him.

And no Gates. Guy should come in and crush it.

 

[two_dollars]

Starting VJ against the team that traded him to me (for Reggie Bush). Hoping that'll make me look smarter than my last-minute decision to start Shaun Hill over Brady.It's hard to see Jackson not having WR1 numbers from here on out. Crayton and Tutu are nothing special, and Rivers made them look like studs. VJ comes in as a stud, and Rivers will find him.

And no Gates. Guy should come in and crush it.

I am finding it hard to believe Gates play again at all this year.

 

[nysportsfan]

Starting VJ against the team that traded him to me (for Reggie Bush). Hoping that'll make me look smarter than my last-minute decision to start Shaun Hill over Brady.It's hard to see Jackson not having WR1 numbers from here on out. Crayton and Tutu are nothing special, and Rivers made them look like studs. VJ comes in as a stud, and Rivers will find him.

And no Gates. Guy should come in and crush it.

I am finding it hard to believe Gates play again at all this year.

I know I don't think one necessarily limits the other, actually.

 

[Sebowski]

starting him over welker and marshall

I probably would have done the same, but I ouch, that stings.

And now Marshall is probably out. If he plays Namdi will shut him down anyway.

 

[kingmalaki]

I started Holmes over him. I think that was a mistake. I forgot how bad Sanchez can look at times. 

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

starting him over welker and marshall

I probably would have done the same, but I ouch, that stings.

And now Marshall is probably out. If he plays Namdi will shut him down anyway.

so, if that's the case, he's probably had nothing but futility against the raiders in the past.

 

[The Man With No Name]

starting him over welker and marshall

I probably would have done the same, but I ouch, that stings.

And now Marshall is probably out. If he plays Namdi will shut him down anyway.

so, if that's the case, he's probably had nothing but futility against the raiders in the past.

2009: 5 for 56 1 td.........8 for 103 1 td

2008: 5 for 148 1 td

.........3 for 52

 

[habsfan]

I'm have him in over Maclin & Tampa Mike.*fingers crossed*

Me, too - bottom line he just has too much upside.

The way I look at it is, if he'd been in camp and I had drafted him, there's no way I would have sat him Week 1... so this just happens to be his "Week 1".

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Well, it was a good run

 

[NinerFan49]

What kind of injury did he sustain?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Not sure there's a winner in this one - but looks like VJax gets the last shot in.

 

[degenerate]

missed it. did he do the expected tweak?

 

[coachbobbyfinstock]

Well, it was a good run

Calf Injury, done for the night. you got to be kidding me!!!!!!

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

What kind of injury did he sustain?

The kind that lets you walk around on the sideline in no discomfort, but keeps you out for, say, 6-8 games and then magically disappears after the season is over? Just a guess.

 

[cvnpoka]

amazing. some ppl called this. not me, but there are gonna be some insufferable i told ya so's in the future in this place.

 

[duaneok66]

thread appears comical now . . .

 

[bushdocda]

Epic oof.

 

[None_More_Black]

I don't think he is faking the inury. I think he would have "injured" himself in practice if he wanted to malinger.