gandalas
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Trades like this one ensure that the team will REMAIN near the bottom.
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2011 offseason dynasty trades (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Octopus
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or he'll break off a couple of big plays and get the Norwood "hype" despite his limited usage and his value will rise in anticpation of what he'll do when he finally gets that bigger role.'loose circuits said:
saw this in a friend's league. 12 Team PPR Dynasty, start 2RB/3WR/1TE, can flex any position.
within 24 hours:
Gave Up:
1.01 and 3.01
for
McCoy
Gave Up:
1.05 and 2.01
for
1.01 and 3.01
Net Result:
McCoy for 1.05 and 2.01.
I think this is a case of rookie pick fever, but both teams are in rebuilding phases.
within 24 hours:
Gave Up:
1.01 and 3.01
for
McCoy
Gave Up:
1.05 and 2.01
for
1.01 and 3.01
Net Result:
McCoy for 1.05 and 2.01.
I think this is a case of rookie pick fever, but both teams are in rebuilding phases.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
MOX OWNERS:
I would appreciate all opinions, but MOX is a unique league, so opinions from those involved are especially valued.
Q/R/R/W/W/F/F (TE=WR) Non PPR, 4pt passing TD (RBs = everything)
Three separate trades, but this is what I gave/got:
Gave:
Adrian Peterson
MJD
Andre Johnson
Got:
Rashard Mendenhall
Frank Gore
Beanie Wells
Miles Austin
Brandon Marshall
Stevie Johnson
My thoughts: I give the two best player in the deal (s), and the best player in the format, (IMO) in AP. But, I am hoping the added flexibility and extra assets give me the edge. I have heard quality > quantity, and usually I agree. But in a 14 team, non PPR format, I am hoping the qty side wins.
Thoughts?
Also, for those that have played for a few years - I think my roster is the best in my league, but we are only a year old. Can you tell me how you think this starting lineup stacks up in the older leagues? Thanks.
Schaub
Mendy
Gore
Bradshaw
Austin
Marshall
St. Johnson
I would appreciate all opinions, but MOX is a unique league, so opinions from those involved are especially valued.
Q/R/R/W/W/F/F (TE=WR) Non PPR, 4pt passing TD (RBs = everything)
Three separate trades, but this is what I gave/got:
Gave:
Adrian Peterson
MJD
Andre Johnson
Got:
Rashard Mendenhall
Frank Gore
Beanie Wells
Miles Austin
Brandon Marshall
Stevie Johnson
My thoughts: I give the two best player in the deal (s), and the best player in the format, (IMO) in AP. But, I am hoping the added flexibility and extra assets give me the edge. I have heard quality > quantity, and usually I agree. But in a 14 team, non PPR format, I am hoping the qty side wins.
Thoughts?
Also, for those that have played for a few years - I think my roster is the best in my league, but we are only a year old. Can you tell me how you think this starting lineup stacks up in the older leagues? Thanks.
Schaub
Mendy
Gore
Bradshaw
Austin
Marshall
St. Johnson
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rzrback77
Footballguy
I am a little scared of Schaub, but you can't argue with the top three RBs and top two WRs, not so much a fan of Stevie though. Below is one of my MOX line-upsBrees
Gore
S Jax
V Jax
Crabtree
S Smith CAR
Z Miller
Pettigrew, Mike Thomas or Reg Bush as top depth
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Im more scared of gore than Schaub. Gore is about to fall off the cliff. Whats wrong w Schaub?
Dez
Footballguy
$750 FFPC - 12 man PPR league
Traded Away:
Peyton Hillis (CLE)
Montario Hardesty (CLE)
Leonard Hankerson (WAS)
Kendall Hunter (SFO)
Draft Pick - Round 5 Pick 6 Overall 54
2012 Draft, Rnd 3
Acquired:
Darren McFadden (OAK)
David Gettis (CAR)
Keiland Williams (WAS)
Draft Pick - Round 3 Pick 9 Overall 33
Draft Pick - Round 4 Pick 4 Overall 40
Traded Away:
Peyton Hillis (CLE)
Montario Hardesty (CLE)
Leonard Hankerson (WAS)
Kendall Hunter (SFO)
Draft Pick - Round 5 Pick 6 Overall 54
2012 Draft, Rnd 3
Acquired:
Darren McFadden (OAK)
David Gettis (CAR)
Keiland Williams (WAS)
Draft Pick - Round 3 Pick 9 Overall 33
Draft Pick - Round 4 Pick 4 Overall 40
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Im a little scared of both, especially gore. Not sure why owner of 2nd team doest like Steve Johnson as a #3 WR, he would be his #1 WR if VJax doesnt stay in SD.
Graham by a lot. He is one of the top TE's to own in dynasty leagues and someone got him for roster fodder.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Wow, now that's getting Graham CHEAP. And I actually like Danario.
TheWick
Footballguy
I haggled hard to just give Danario and a 3rd...perhaps I like Danario too much. Glad to have Graham...I really think he might explode this year.
Dez
Footballguy
Give me Graham by a LONG SHOT
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I generally agree with that as well, but I think you did ok here if you needed the depth. The quantity you got back is quality and not a bunch of junk.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Graham is the new Finley with the hype he's getting. I don't think he lives up to it, although I do agree here that I'd take his side in this deal as Alexander is a big risk due to injury an an abundence of similiar talent on St. Louis depth chart.
NajehHejan
Footballguy
I like this deal for me. The other owner must have liked it for him because he accepted it within minutes. Seems pretty even.
1 point PPR / 1 point per 10 yards rushing or receiving / 1 point per 25 yards passing / 6 point TD
Gave:
Tampa Bay Mike Williams, WR
Mike Sims-Walker, WR
3.05
Got:
1.03
2.08
Mario Manningham, WR
Thoughts?
1 point PPR / 1 point per 10 yards rushing or receiving / 1 point per 25 yards passing / 6 point TD
Gave:
Tampa Bay Mike Williams, WR
Mike Sims-Walker, WR
3.05
Got:
1.03
2.08
Mario Manningham, WR
Thoughts?
I think this is a pretty fair trade. I'm high on Tampa Mike so not sure I would have traded him away but in the end you'll get Ingram or Jones with 1.03 so it could work out. I'm not a huge MSW fan so I think 2.08 was fair. Then you give up 3.05 for Manningham which is fantastic value.
You win1.3 > Williams2.08 > MSWManningham >> 3.05
We Tigers
Footballguy
Not a fan at all. The centerpiece of the deal is Williams for 1.03; do you really see Julio Jones as a better option than Williams? Seems like a sideways move at best, incurring a lot of risk.
I just peaked, i actually have Jones with a 49 DS and Williams 48, so i guess they are basically even, but i would prefer Jones. I have a funny feeling that Falcons offense is going to be like the Rams of the 90's once Turner burns out this year. Of course i doubt Rodgers is Faulk, but Lemichael James might be, and should be there at the end of round 1 for the Falcons in next years draft.
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NajehHejan
Footballguy
I do think I’m taking a bit of a step back with 1.03 for Tampa Mike, as there could be a learning curve with Julio or Green (whoever I land there). But long term, I like either of those guys the same or even a bit better than Tampa Mike. So the rest of the deal had too much value to pass up on.
We Tigers
Footballguy
I can't imagine Green falling to 1.03 in many leagues outside of Tuscaloosa.
I do like the value you get in the rest of the deal, but Mario is still fighting for the #2 spot in NY, and his future is unclear. I would like the deal a ton more if it was 1.02 and you were guaranteed Ingram or Green. I like Jones, but see his ceiling at around what Williams did last year as long as Roddy White's around.
I do like the value you get in the rest of the deal, but Mario is still fighting for the #2 spot in NY, and his future is unclear. I would like the deal a ton more if it was 1.02 and you were guaranteed Ingram or Green. I like Jones, but see his ceiling at around what Williams did last year as long as Roddy White's around.
Dez
Footballguy
I just passed up the chance to draft Titus Young at pick 3.6...I traded it for Mike Goodson and the 4.3 pick (while I also traded away my 2012 4th round pick)Seemed to be a good deal to me with my lack of RB depth and having Stewart.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Traded 2011 4.04 for 2012 3rd rounder. 
TheWick
Footballguy
Cash Cow?Traded 2011 4.04 for 2012 3rd rounder.
TheWick
Footballguy
Whoa...2014 draft pick? Do you guys pay through those years already?I'd take that for Shonn Greene
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Team A Trades: 2012 2nd round pick (from worst team in the league last season)
Team B Trades: Fred Jackson
Team B Trades: Fred Jackson
FFPC $1250 PPR
Team A gives Jonathan Stewart, Deangelo Williams, Desean Jackson, 2012 1st (likely top 3), Dustin Keller (1.5 PPR for TE, start 1-3 TE)
Team B gives Lesean McCoy and Greg Jennings, 2.03 rookie (Kyle Rudolph), 7.06 rookie and 2012 7th rounder (16 player keeper / 20 man in-season rosters, so 7th rounders may have "some" value due to vets adding extra value)
Team A gives Jonathan Stewart, Deangelo Williams, Desean Jackson, 2012 1st (likely top 3), Dustin Keller (1.5 PPR for TE, start 1-3 TE)
Team B gives Lesean McCoy and Greg Jennings, 2.03 rookie (Kyle Rudolph), 7.06 rookie and 2012 7th rounder (16 player keeper / 20 man in-season rosters, so 7th rounders may have "some" value due to vets adding extra value)
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The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Give me Team B's haul in a landslide
Rockchild
Footballguy
They'll have to trade up to get it as they traded next years first as part of the Julio Jones trade.'Go deep said:'We Tigers said:
I tend to agree, but I think its actually closer than it may seem. I was Team A in the deal by the way and fully expect to get hammered by public opinion (all hammering welcomed and encouraged). Based on name value, the side getting Stew would seem to be living a dream. But looking at startup value:Lesean McCoy is arguably the #1 player in PPR format with a 2 RB minimum (in this case, up to 4 RB in the starting lineup). He's been taken there in more than one startup I've seen. I personally have him in the top 5, not sure where exactly at this time, but quite possibly at #1. Jon Stewart is being taken anywhere from the early 3rd to late 3rd. In the upcoming two FFPC $750 startup drafts in June/July, I would predict that Stew will be taken around the 4.3 (due to bumping of TEs and the fact that Stew gets a bad rap in the FFPC community) Deangelo is a late 5th early 6th kind of guy right now, with Carolina now presenting a realistic possibility (affecting both Stew's and Deangelo's production in 2011). In the FFPC, its even worse. I couldnt trade him away for the 1.6, 1.7 or 1.8 during the recent rookie draft for this league. I predict he'll go at 6.6. Greg Jennings is being taken in the early to middle 2nd round based on recent startups (which is about right for the FFPC as well). Desean Jackson in the late 2nd to mid 3rd in most startups. I am predicting 3.5 for the FFPC drafts. The 2.3 (Kyle Rudolph) is being taken just behind Dustin Keller and both will probably be taken in the 8th or 9th rounds of the FFPC drafts (minor edge to Keller). Basically, this could look like this in from a startup view: Typical PPR startup draft (assuming 1.5PPR TE): 1.5, 2.3, 9.7 for 3.3, 3.4, 5.12, 9.3, Prime 2012 1stMy prediction for the FFPC startups this year:1.3, 2.2, 9.7for 3.5, 4.3, 6.6, 9.3, Prime 2012 1stStill a landslide? Don't get me wrong, I still like the side getting Stew from a value standpoint (due to the Prime 2012 1st), but I think its closer than a landslide. Personally, with a lot of money on the line for a team that could very well win it all in 2011 (and would now be the favorite to do so), I had to consider the redraft value of the deal as well and in my opinion, the McCoy/Jennings side has that won by a hefty margin. In the end, that carried the day. In order to trade for an impact player such as a CJ3, McCoy, Charles or ADP in this league, this is about the cheapest that one of these players can be had.
Gonna get beat up on this one I'm sure.
12 team PPR FFPC Dynasty
Traded
Peyton Hillis RB, CLE
Montario Hardesty RB, CLE
Leonard Hankerson WR, WAS
Kendall Hunter RB, SFO
Rnd 5, Pick 6
2012 Draft, Rnd 3 (Another teams)
FOR
Darren McFadden RB, OAK
David Gettis WR, CAR
Keiland Williams RB, WAS
Rnd 3, Pick 9
Rnd 4, Pick 4
I then traded 3.09 and Keiland Williams for 3.07 to draft Titus Young
And traded 4.04 and Mohamed Massaquoi for 3.05 to draft Jacquizz Rodgers
So the trade would now look like
Traded
Peyton Hillis RB, CLE
Montario Hardesty RB, CLE
Leonard Hankerson WR, WAS
Kendall Hunter RB, SFO
Mohamed Massaquoi WR, CLE
Rnd 5, Pick 6
2012 Draft, Rnd 3 (Another teams)
FOR
Darren McFadden RB, OAK
David Gettis WR, CAR
Jacquizz Rodgers RB, ATL
Titus Young WR, DET
12 team PPR FFPC Dynasty
Traded
Peyton Hillis RB, CLE
Montario Hardesty RB, CLE
Leonard Hankerson WR, WAS
Kendall Hunter RB, SFO
Rnd 5, Pick 6
2012 Draft, Rnd 3 (Another teams)
FOR
Darren McFadden RB, OAK
David Gettis WR, CAR
Keiland Williams RB, WAS
Rnd 3, Pick 9
Rnd 4, Pick 4
I then traded 3.09 and Keiland Williams for 3.07 to draft Titus Young
And traded 4.04 and Mohamed Massaquoi for 3.05 to draft Jacquizz Rodgers
So the trade would now look like
Traded
Peyton Hillis RB, CLE
Montario Hardesty RB, CLE
Leonard Hankerson WR, WAS
Kendall Hunter RB, SFO
Mohamed Massaquoi WR, CLE
Rnd 5, Pick 6
2012 Draft, Rnd 3 (Another teams)
FOR
Darren McFadden RB, OAK
David Gettis WR, CAR
Jacquizz Rodgers RB, ATL
Titus Young WR, DET
I see it as
D McFadden > Peyton Hillis, M Hardesty (rids me of a possible RBBC headache and I acquire best player in deal)
Leonard Hankerson > Titus Young (Lost here)
Kendall Hunter > Jacquizz Rodgers ( pretty close - long term value for Hunter probably better)
David Gettis = Mo. Massaquoi ( A wash slight advantage to Gettis IMO. Plus I already own Greg Little)
5.06 nothing in return
2012 3rd nothing in return
D McFadden > Peyton Hillis, M Hardesty (rids me of a possible RBBC headache and I acquire best player in deal)
Leonard Hankerson > Titus Young (Lost here)
Kendall Hunter > Jacquizz Rodgers ( pretty close - long term value for Hunter probably better)
David Gettis = Mo. Massaquoi ( A wash slight advantage to Gettis IMO. Plus I already own Greg Little)
5.06 nothing in return
2012 3rd nothing in return
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We Tigers
Footballguy
I love when we get both participants in a trade on the same page!
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
12 team PPR start qb/2rb/2wr/te/te-wr flex
Colston
4.4
for
Collie
2.6
Choice
BarberIII
Colston
4.4
for
Collie
2.6
Choice
BarberIII
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
Surprised someone would give the 1.07 for Pierre. He's been nearly untradeable in all my leagues, even the Ingram owners have shown no interest in acquiring him.
flooredyas
Footballguy
Gave up Zack Miller (Oak) TE and rookie pick 2.06 (#22) for Hillis
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flooredyas
Footballguy
Traded rookie picks 8.06 (#118) and year 2012 4th round pick for Claussen (Drafted Newton)
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Someone just sold Steve Johnson really low in Zealots, right?
