***Official CFB NCG Thread: Ohio wins; Joe T shamed once again*** (1 Viewer)

[jurb26]

Nice run.

 

[jurb26]

Oregon got away with a major hold outside.

 

[massraider]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

Head talent matters just as much and there is no comparison there either.

One can be fixed. I'm not pounding the table for Winston here, but he can mature. Mariota can't improve his arm.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

I think FSU had 19 men on the field

 

[gump]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

None. Zero. Winston's risk is up for debate...but Mariota is not worthy of the top pick. Unless Kelly trades up. 1% chance he goes #1.

 

[GoFishTN]

I love the FSU band playing every time Oregon has a big play.

 

[jurb26]

FSU in major trouble now. Gotta score TDs.

 

[BRONG]

When did the Oregon start selling the "Fighting" Ducks part more? Seeing a lot of it.

 

[Christo]

FSU better figure out how to score TDs and not settle for FGs

Get the refs more money?

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

Head talent matters just as much and there is no comparison there either.

One can be fixed. I'm not pounding the table for Winston here, but he can mature. Mariota can't improve his arm.

I'm not trying to pound the table against Winston (or for Mariota), but can somebody give an example of a qb that had maturity issues in college and went on to be a big-time NFL qb?

 

[culdeus]

tough to get in to this game because I want both these teams to die in a fire.

 

[JaxBill]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

None. Zero. Winston's risk is up for debate...but Mariota is not worthy of the top pick. Unless Kelly trades up. 1% chance he goes #1.

Really good comparison of the two.

http://nflphilosophy.com/marcus-mariota-vs-jameis-winston/

Rather lengthy, perfect for halftime.

 

[The Commish]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

Head talent matters just as much and there is no comparison there either.

One can be fixed. I'm not pounding the table for Winston here, but he can mature. Mariota can't improve his arm.

I'm not trying to pound the table against Winston (or for Mariota), but can somebody give an example of a qb that had maturity issues in college and went on to be a big-time NFL qb?

Cam has grown significantly....not "big-time" just yet but certainly trending that way.

 

[The Commish]

tough to get in to this game because I want both these teams to die in a fire.

 

[JaxBill]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

Head talent matters just as much and there is no comparison there either.

One can be fixed. I'm not pounding the table for Winston here, but he can mature. Mariota can't improve his arm.

I'm not trying to pound the table against Winston (or for Mariota), but can somebody give an example of a qb that had maturity issues in college and went on to be a big-time NFL qb?

Does Cam Newton count?

 

[jurb26]

Really nice play by Winston.

 

[massraider]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

Head talent matters just as much and there is no comparison there either.

One can be fixed. I'm not pounding the table for Winston here, but he can mature. Mariota can't improve his arm.

I'm not trying to pound the table against Winston (or for Mariota), but can somebody give an example of a qb that had maturity issues in college and went on to be a big-time NFL qb?

Cam Newton

Brett Favre

Joe Namath

Ben Roethlisberger

If you open it up to non-QBs, the list grows quite a bit. It's also encouraging that Winston's concerns don't involve alcohol/drugs.

Can I get a list of QB that improved their arm strength or accuracy in the NFL?

 

[fasteddie_21]

FSU defense in trouble. Gassed. Loooong 2nd half.

 

[Yenrub]

tough to get in to this game because I want both these teams to die in a fire.

This is how I will feel about the Sugar Bowl later tonight

 

[jurb26]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

Head talent matters just as much and there is no comparison there either.

One can be fixed. I'm not pounding the table for Winston here, but he can mature. Mariota can't improve his arm.

I'm not trying to pound the table against Winston (or for Mariota), but can somebody give an example of a qb that had maturity issues in college and went on to be a big-time NFL qb?

Cam Newton

Brett Favre

Joe Namath

Ben Roethlisberger

If you open it up to non-QBs, the list grows quite a bit. It's also encouraging that Winston's concerns don't involve alcohol/drugs.

Can I get a list of QB that improved their arm strength or accuracy in the NFL?

Marino was a big time putz at Pitt, too.

 

[Yenrub]

Nice drive by FSU

Their defense better hold Oregon scoreless for this last 36 seconds

 

[jurb26]

Big time score there for FSU. They get the ball at start of 3rd.

 

[massraider]

Hey, you have to draft him assuming he grows up. Ryan Leaf never matured. Some GM and coach are going to stake their jobs on this guy. Winston is scary.

 

[Tom Servo]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

Head talent matters just as much and there is no comparison there either.

One can be fixed. I'm not pounding the table for Winston here, but he can mature. Mariota can't improve his arm.

I'm not trying to pound the table against Winston (or for Mariota), but can somebody give an example of a qb that had maturity issues in college and went on to be a big-time NFL qb?

Cam Newton

Brett Favre

Joe Namath

Ben Roethlisberger

If you open it up to non-QBs, the list grows quite a bit. It's also encouraging that Winston's concerns don't involve alcohol/drugs.

Can I get a list of QB that improved their arm strength or accuracy in the NFL?

Marino was a big time putz at Pitt, too.

 

[MikeIke]

Wasn't near a computer and the game is over now, but that Baylor block in the back on the int return was one of the worst plays in history. I mean the guy 2 hand shoved a 350 pound OL square in the back when he was 5 yards behind the play with no chance of catching up. That would have put the game out of reach.

That was a pretty ####ty call but Baylor had every opportunity to win that game, and didn't. No excuse at all for that, and not punting at the MSU 40 up 13 with 6 minutes left was pure stupidity. They deserved to lose.

It wasn't a ####ty call at all, it was a ####ty block by a ####### who made a stupid play. It a legit penalty and deserved to be called.

 

[dickey moe]

Oof

 

[Yenrub]

Can FSU cash in on the pick?

 

[massraider]

Heck, maybe Philly does have a shot at trading up for Mariota after all.

 

[jurb26]

Terrible throw. Mariota is so inaccurate.

 

[jurb26]

Greene, you gotta catch that.

 

[culdeus]

random question, how much does a full size shuffleboard table cost? ballpark. will answer yours

 

[dickey moe]

Catch that and you get 3.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Terrible throw. Mariota is so inaccurate.

So far tonight, yes. Overall, not in the least.

 

[Zegras11]

they need the fat kciker

 

[jurb26]

Dang, FSU kicker guy almost made that.

I'm drafting him in my rookie drafts.

 

[dickey moe]

Sharon and Holden Cox

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

I never realized how much Jimbo Fisher sounds like Jerry Reed.

 

[BRONG]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

Head talent matters just as much and there is no comparison there either.

Hello, you do know James got into STANFORD, right?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Whatever NFL team drafts Mariotta,

glllllllllllllllllllllllllll

 

[tommyGunZ]

Zero dog in the Winston/Mariota fight, and I'm actually pulling for the Ducks, but I would be furious if my Chargers had the #1 pick and took Mariota over Winston. It's not even close.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

random question, how much does a full size shuffleboard table cost? ballpark. will answer yours

You can spend $5-6K on a high end one.

A decent full-size one is probably two racks.

 

[Osaurus]

I never realized how much Jimbo Fisher sounds like Jerry Reed.

His dog Flash is never too far from him

 

[The Commish]

Well....at least we don't have to listen to Lou and Mark May at half time

 

[seahawk 17]

What's wrong with Royce Freeman....haven't heard is number called since the TD.

 

[jurb26]

What's wrong with Royce Freeman....haven't heard is number called since the TD.

Looks good, just not getting touches.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Even a sweet looking back shoulder throw from Mariota had no zip on it.

Strictly from an arm talent perspective, there is no comparison.

Head talent matters just as much and there is no comparison there either.

One can be fixed. I'm not pounding the table for Winston here, but he can mature. Mariota can't improve his arm.

I'm not trying to pound the table against Winston (or for Mariota), but can somebody give an example of a qb that had maturity issues in college and went on to be a big-time NFL qb?

Does Cam Newton count?

I suppose so. I had forgotten about the whole laptop at UF deal.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Wasn't near a computer and the game is over now, but that Baylor block in the back on the int return was one of the worst plays in history. I mean the guy 2 hand shoved a 350 pound OL square in the back when he was 5 yards behind the play with no chance of catching up. That would have put the game out of reach.

That was a pretty ####ty call but Baylor had every opportunity to win that game, and didn't. No excuse at all for that, and not punting at the MSU 40 up 13 with 6 minutes left was pure stupidity. They deserved to lose.

It wasn't a ####ty call at all, it was a ####ty block by a ####### who made a stupid play. It a legit penalty and deserved to be called.

yep...had to be called. just can't imagine what that guy was thinking.

 

[fsufan]

FSU has been in this spot all year

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

I never realized how much Jimbo Fisher sounds like Jerry Reed.

His dog Flash is never too far from him

I thought that was Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane's dog?

 

[Guest]

TCU would hang a 100 on both of these ham and eggers.