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Youre absolutely welcome to criticize. I think many of your critiques are valid BTW. You're also free to hate this country, and Im free to tell you to get the #### out if you do. That's all part of the American exceptionalism which you regard as a myth.
Ridiculous judge allowing that to come in as a present sense impression. Happens way too much.
Yeah. Present sense impression is the last-ditch, I have nothing else but really want to get this evidence in, hail Mary attempt. It should be accompanied by a presumption that it doesn't apply.
Wait . . . that's the thanks I get for rooting for your stupid college basketball team?Feel free to leave whenever you like, and take Jack White fan with you.
An interent forum and rights allowing you to use it are not exceptional unless you are comparing us to China. I tend to think of the US as a 1st world western country. So I compare us to our true counterparts.
The Magee case is based on the premise that he didn't know it was police knocking his door down.
Also makes just about everyone more apt to just take off running or resist once caught. Just have your friends start filming after the cops catch you.
Which is the case for every single "No-knock" raid.
im assuming he was not in uniform or showing in any way he is a cop...to people passing by he`s just a dude in his car telling you to be quiet on a public street
So what, a 4.9% chance of being killed by police for no good reason per encounter is an acceptable risk?
I don't know you have to ask the criminal that runs if it is acceptable. Apparently he was willing to take the risk because he took off like a jack rabbit. A simple hard tackle can break your back.
Then frankly why don't you spend just 10% of your time investigating all the positive things that police do on a daily basis vs the negative. Guess what it is probably 10,000 to 1---good vs bad. But right now we are on a witch hunt in this country and if you can't see it, you are blind. Every possible police encounter that is questionable is being reported by the media and splashed in the headlines and when it doesn't fit the narrative we want, we try and find another. There have been several in the last two months that appear on the MSN headlines and then magically we hear nothing about it again when OOOPs the guy who was shot actually fired at officers, but we don't print retractions. We got the click thru responses we hoped for at the time.
Of course he wasn't guilty of anything because he ran.
The problem is that no one cares about someone doing his/her job properly, because that's what he/she is paid to do. The only thing that anyone notices is exceptional behavior, good or bad. And it's those bad actors that create a problem for police forces as a whole.
Exactly. We're all well-programmed to say "no" to that request. But for some reason there's a perception that we have to stop and talk to a police officer if he asks us to do so and anyone who doesn't has done something wrong.
can anyone really blame blacks for running first and asking questions later? they are lead to believe that its open season on young black males and the cops are the hunters.....i wish i could say that im sensationalizing that statement but its a reality to blacks
Those cases detail a frightful human toll. Officers have battered dozens of residents who suffered broken bones — jaws, noses, arms, legs, ankles — head trauma, organ failure, and even death, coming during questionable arrests. Some residents were beaten while handcuffed; others were thrown to the pavement.
Damn.
Some of these are horrible, but what do you expect if you do something like this?
That isTennessee_ATO said:
Yeah, but it's not BS. Arizona v. Johnson explicitly allows the pat-down of a passenger based on no reasonable suspicion of criminal activity on the part of the passenger, only the subjective belief of the officer that the passenger presented a risk that was based solely on the fact that the passenger was from an area of town in which the Crips gang was prevalent. Arizona pushed for a broader ruling allowing this type of a pat-down in a consensual stop but the Court stopped short of that.That isTennessee_ATO said:
I'm not going to deny that it happens, but cops do not have a legal right to frisk someone simply for talking to them.
A study of 'stop and frisk' policy in Los Angeles found arrests were made 30% of the time - a rate 5x higher than in New York.
That hit rate tells me the LAPD are being much more selective in who they frisk, which makes a huge difference in how they are perceived in the community.
Interesting, I read up on it:
We have a problem - how do police do their job if they aren't allowed to search suspicious people? On the other hand, if a law if poorly written then it opens it to abuse.
Have a legitimate reason as to why you call them suspicious.
So you're a cop and you pull over a guy who is acting nervous and twitchy, giving you strange answers and you wouldn't think it's reasonable to search him?
You do know there are people who are naturally nervous and twitchy... take Marco Rubio for example.
AND who`s to say or define ''suspicious'' ? The cops ? I live near a town called Northborough...they have the highest DUI arrests in the state i believe ....what they do is ,if you are out after a certain time at night they just pull you over and claim you crossed the marked lane...then if you are drunk you get arrested ...if not they let you go with a warning ...almost every single arrest for DUI in the paper starts out with''failure to stay within marked lanes'' as the initial violation...point being cops can pull over anyone they want ...just need a made up reason like the above^^^^^^^^^^
But cops are always honest. They would never lie about why they stopped someone...
"Suspicious" is a meaningless word though.
This. Did you notice in the expose' on Baltimore that the officers parroted the same phrase "feared for his safety"? That's been trained into them.
Well, we've seen several posted in this thread of young black males who don't run and who do get into these situations.
That's not what I was questioning. I was asking who are leading young black males to believe it's open season on them?
