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My favorite thing about the Trump campaign is that there's some new absurdity every day.  Not sure but I think this one could be a good one:


 


Trump Campaign Inflated Trump’s Book Sales


Donald Trump's campaign used its own funds to buy more copies of his book than the rest of the world did in the second week of May. The purchase was so large that it even it registered as a sales bump by Nielsen BookScan, according to data obtained by The Daily Beast.
On May 10, the Trump campaign spent $55,000 at a New York Barnes & Noble on 3,964 copies of Crippled America: How to Make America Great Again, The Daily Beast reported Wednesday. The buy was a departure from standard campaign practice, which dictates that bulk orders be placed with the book publisher to avoid artificially boosting sales.
In the same week, other cities in the United States purchased a mere fraction of what the Trump campaign did. Seventy copies were sold in Philadelphia, 78 in Los Angeles, and 41 in Dallas.
If Trump personally profited from the book royalties, he would have violated federal law prohibiting campaign funds from being converted for personal use.
The Trump campaign did not respond on the record to inquiries about this matter. Trump’s publisher Simon and Schuster and Barnes and Noble did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
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HellToupee said:
It's like the first 100 day promises

honestly I think someone in the field has a better grasp on the issues and how to fix them  in Chicago than the bureaucracy. Certainly the godfather is clueless 
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Most 100 day plan stuff is better thought out then "I'm going to get tough" because I talked to some random guy (maybe) and that's what he said to do.

 
parrot said:
"a couple of very top police"... "a top police officer who is not the police chief"...

https://youtu.be/vC6wbw2sCrU?t=4m45s
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Before you even get to the silliness of his "solutions", it's hard to get past the implied initial problem - that the existing police force is just idly sitting by allowing crimes to be committed, that the CPD are a bunch of listless wimps with no clue that "bad people" are doing bad things, or they are aware but just are choosing not to do anything about it. And that problem all gets fixed by the introduction of this magical tough guy. I don't know if he actually believes that, but how can you expect anyone else to believe that?

 
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Gr00vus said:
Before you even get to the silliness of his "solutions", it's hard to get past the implied initial problem - that the existing police force is just idly sitting by allowing crimes to be committed, that the CPD are a bunch of listless wimps with no clue that "bad people" are doing bad things, or they are aware but just aren't doing anything about it. And that problem all gets fixed by the introduction of this magical tough guy. I don't know if he actually believes that, but how can you expect anyone else to believe that?
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It's a lot like his extreme vetting approach where you just have to "hire really smart people".  D'OH!  It's so simple!

If Trump has the ability to hire really smart people, why doesn't he hire a few for his campaign?

 
I imagine your typical Trump voter believes the solution to inner-city crime is more or less the same as the solution to violence in the middle east. Just take the gloves off, and let the good guys kill all the bad guys. Simple!

 
Gr00vus said:
Before you even get to the silliness of his "solutions", it's hard to get past the implied initial problem - that the existing police force is just idly sitting by allowing crimes to be committed, that the CPD are a bunch of listless wimps with no clue that "bad people" are doing bad things, or they are aware but just aren't doing anything about it. And that problem all gets fixed by the introduction of this magical tough guy. I don't know if he actually believes that, but how can you expect anyone else to believe that?
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He's so obviously completely FOS -- but his supporters just swallow every little bit of the BS without even a thought and demand more. It's really pretty remarkable -- a full blown cult of personality. The Trumpkins will literally cheer for virtually anything that comes out of his mouth, even when it directly contradicts something that they cheered for a few weeks ago when he said it.

 
CBusAlex said:
I imagine your typical Trump voter believes the solution to inner-city crime is more or less the same as the solution to violence in the middle east. Just take the gloves off, and let the good guys kill all the bad guys. Simple!
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Pretty sure his solution to the Middle East involves:

  1. Lob a few nukes into Syria
  2. More torture, more targeting of families
  3. Give nukes to the Saudi royal family
  4. ???
  5. Profit
Wonder if he would try that in Detroit and Chicago?

 
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parrot said:
It's a lot like his extreme vetting approach where you just have to "hire really smart people".  D'OH!  It's so simple!

If Trump has the ability to hire really smart people, why doesn't he hire a few for his campaign?
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Yeah, there's that point, but what I'm saying is, he's already way off on the wrong foot in his implied "understanding" of the problem in the first place. Does he really think the homicides in Chicago are simply a matter of the police not being tough enough or not trying hard enough? It's an idiotic starting point - pretty much a straw man. And that's his whole campaign in a nutshell, a litany of straw men that he then whips his audience into a frenzy about. It's total distraction from the root causes of the problems the U.S. has (such as they are), topped off with substance free solutions. His entire campaign is a total fabrication. And I don't think his support (most of it anyway) comes from people who are too stupid to know better, it comes from people who want to be distracted from the difficult problems we really need to be working on but are too complex to be easily solved in campaign speeches or 5 minute news segment interviews. And that's our problem, all of us. We've created this environment. And it's not getting better.

 
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Gr00vus said:
Before you even get to the silliness of his "solutions", it's hard to get past the implied initial problem - that the existing police force is just idly sitting by allowing crimes to be committed, that the CPD are a bunch of listless wimps with no clue that "bad people" are doing bad things, or they are aware but just are choosing not to do anything about it. And that problem all gets fixed by the introduction of this magical tough guy. I don't know if he actually believes that, but how can you expect anyone else to believe that?
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Let's just assume for a minute that this cop is real, and this conversation really happened; if you were a guy who in the past had expressed an interest in running for state and federal office, and you had ANY interest in public policy, wouldn't you press this guy with the magic bullet for curing inner city strife for a few details? Aren't you a little curious how he would go about settling it - IN ON FREAKIN' WEEK NO LESS -  broad-strokes at least? It probably makes Trump look the worst if this conversation DID happen.

 
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Eric Trump: It Would Be ‘Foolish’ for Donald Trump to Release Tax Returns



Candidate's son warns 'people who know nothing about taxes' would scrutinize them


Eric Trump said Wednesday it would be “foolish” for his father to release his tax returns and subject them to scrutiny by people who don’t know what they are looking at.

“You would have a bunch of people who know nothing about taxes trying to look through and trying to come up with assumptions on things they know nothing about,” Mr. Trump said on CNBC. “It would be foolish to do. I’m actually the biggest proponent of not doing it.”

The Republican presidential candidate has said he can’t release his tax returns until the Internal Revenue Service completes an audit.

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http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/08/24/eric-trump-it-would-be-foolish-for-donald-trump-to-release-tax-returns/#livefyre-comment

- So to Trump the excuse now is that the voters are morons.

- There is no audit. Drives me nuts that the reporters don't press for the audit letter instead of the returns themselves at this point.

 
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“You would have a bunch of people who know nothing about taxes trying to look through and trying to come up with assumptions on things they know nothing about,” Mr. Trump said on CNBC.
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Newsflash: most of those people are already voting for Trump. ;)

 
Sammy3469 said:
I had to laugh at some of the clips of the Hannity town hall.  Hannity's trying the best he can to lead Trump to a understandable statement on immigration multiple times and Trump just won't follow.
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That was really funny. Hannity trying to set him up with softballs, Trump speaking in non sequitir, and Hannity looking confused

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/08/24/eric-trump-it-would-be-foolish-for-donald-trump-to-release-tax-returns/#livefyre-comment

- So to Trump the excuse now is that the voters are morons.

- There is no audit. Drives me nuts that the reporters don't press for the audit letter instead of the returns themselves at this point.
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This kid is as dumb as his father.  Ivanka at least has shown some intelligence.  Eric is an entitled little ##### just like his pops.  Donny Jr. mostly is too.

 
I don't think it's smug to ridicule the most ridiculous presidential candidate and campaign that anyone living has ever witnessed. Do his supporters really not see the day to day absurdities?

 
Gr00vus said:
Before you even get to the silliness of his "solutions", it's hard to get past the implied initial problem - that the existing police force is just idly sitting by allowing crimes to be committed, that the CPD are a bunch of listless wimps with no clue that "bad people" are doing bad things, or they are aware but just are choosing not to do anything about it. And that problem all gets fixed by the introduction of this magical tough guy. I don't know if he actually believes that, but how can you expect anyone else to believe that?
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Isn't this the basic theme of every Batman movie? 

 
The General said:
Most 100 day plan stuff is better thought out then "I'm going to get tough" because I talked to some random guy (maybe) and that's what he said to do.
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No. He's going to get "rough tough", you bonehead. Your comprehension level is lacking if you can't understand the policy position of "rough tough". Many people are talking about it. 

 
Gr00vus said:
 We've created this environment. And it's not getting better.
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I don't think that many of his supporters are racists, bigots or stupid. I do think a lot of them are just pissed off at the status quo and he was the only outsider in the race. If there was someone like Perot in the race, I'd vote for that person in a heartbeat.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/08/24/eric-trump-it-would-be-foolish-for-donald-trump-to-release-tax-returns/#livefyre-comment

- So to Trump the excuse now is that the voters are morons.

- There is no audit. Drives me nuts that the reporters don't press for the audit letter instead of the returns themselves at this point.
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Actually, a number of people here are mistaking annual income for net worth, can't figure out that debt load is not an indication of being broke, etc. So maybe I go with the Trump camp on this one. People would use his tax returns for ammunition. I'm betting he has one of the most complicated tax returns in the country. Now if he wanted to release a balance sheet, that would be more interesting.

 
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roadkill1292 said:
I don't think it's smug to ridicule the most ridiculous presidential candidate and campaign that anyone living has ever witnessed. Do his supporters really not see the day to day absurdities?
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Literally Trump could shoot a three year old in the face and his supporters would still vote for him. The support he gets is unwavering. This is every much like  what we see in extremeist movements like Jonestown.  It does not matter if he is right or wrong - that is just a test of faith to them.

 
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
Literally Trump could shoot a three year old in the face and his supporters would still vote for him. The support he gets is unwavering. This is every much like  what we see in extremeist movements like Jonestown.  It does not matter if he is right or wrong - that is just a test of faith to them.
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Same can be said for Hillary supporters though.

 
I'm betting there are people in this country who know how to read and understand Trump's tax return better and more thoroughly than Donald trump does and I'll bet any reputable news outlet would be able to find these smaht folks and get them to explain to us commoners what all the there is there.

 
bueno said:
I don't think that many of his supporters are racists, bigots or stupid. I do think a lot of them are just pissed off at the status quo and he was the only outsider in the race. If there was someone like Perot in the race, I'd vote for that person in a heartbeat.
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I'm all for voting for outsiders if you're sick of the status quo, provided that outsider has a clue.  It was pretty evident early on that Trump didn't have any.  I'm not going to excuse his voters if they voted for him for this reason. 

also, there was another outsider on the other side who actually did have a clue....

 
dutch said:
I'm betting there are people in this country who know how to read and understand Trump's tax return better and more thoroughly than Donald trump does and I'll bet any reputable news outlet would be able to find these smaht folks and get them to explain to us commoners what all the there is there.
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Yeah, it isn't like we don't have about five millions CPAs in the country. 

 
bueno said:
I don't think that many of his supporters are racists, bigots or stupid. I do think a lot of them are just pissed off at the status quo and he was the only outsider in the race. If there was someone like Perot in the race, I'd vote for that person in a heartbeat.
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Yeah because being a citizen in the greatest country on earth is so miserable!  Let's change everything!!!!!!!!!!

 
bueno said:
Actually, a number of people here are mistaking annual income for net worth, can't figure out that debt load is not an indication of being broke, etc. So maybe I go with the Trump camp on this one. People would use his tax returns for ammunition. I'm betting he has one of the most complicated tax returns in the country. Now if he wanted to release a balance sheet, that would be more interesting.
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There's also his large donations to NAMBLA.

 
jomar said:
I'm all for voting for outsiders if you're sick of the status quo, provided that outsider has a clue.  It was pretty evident early on that Trump didn't have any.  I'm not going to excuse his voters if they voted for him for this reason. 

also, there was another outsider on the other side who actually did have a clue....
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Bernie wasn't an outsider. He is part of the establishment. Just because he ran as a socialist during his political career doesn't make him an outsider.

 
dutch said:
I'm betting there are people in this country who know how to read and understand Trump's tax return better and more thoroughly than Donald trump does and I'll bet any reputable news outlet would be able to find these smaht folks and get them to explain to us commoners what all the there is there.
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Obviously there are, but whether the news outlets would have smart folks reporting on them or just go for sensationalist headlines is highly questionable.

 
bueno said:
Same can be said for Hillary supporters though.
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The false equivalencies drawn between Trump and Hillary by folks on the right that certainly know better is possibly the single most annoying thing about this entire election cycle. It's like saying strep throat is as bad as terminal cancer just because being sick sucks.

 
bueno said:
Obviously there are, but whether the news outlets would have smart folks reporting on them or just go for sensationalist headlines is highly questionable.
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I reckon there'd be a little of both. Or a lot.

 
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Coeur de Lion said:
The false equivalencies drawn between Trump and Hillary by folks on the right that certainly know better is possibly the single most annoying thing about this entire election cycle. It's like saying strep throat is as bad as terminal cancer just because being sick sucks.
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Noah Garfinkel ‏@NoahGarfinkel


"Clinton and Trump both have historically low favorability ratings!" So do licorice jelly beans and Ebola. Shut up and eat the jelly beans.
 
bueno said:
Bernie wasn't an outsider. He is part of the establishment. Just because he ran as a socialist during his political career doesn't make him an outsider.
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Bernie is certainly an outsider to the 2 political parties we have.  regardless, if someone thought Bernie wasn't an outsider, that still doesn't excuse throwing your vote Trump's way for the sole reason that he is an outsider. 

I know a few trump supporters and the reason they love him is because they are racists/bigots.  they loved the idea of getting rid of Mexicans and banning Muslims.  that's it.  He didn't need to be an outsider to get their vote.

 
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