Sabertooth
Footballguy
They see the incongruent hand size when he picks up a water bottle with both hands and they just gotta see.
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Stormy Daniels scandal thread (1 Viewer)
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
You don't pay for the sex, you pay for them to leave after. Or in this case, keep quiet. I don't believe Trump paid Stormy on the night of the escapade. He only promised her a quid pro quo. Which of course he didn't deliver on.
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She wasn't the married one. Is there anything your orange messiah could possibly do that would make you doubt your love for him?
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
misogyny... funny...Trumps behavior was inappropriate but no more wrong inappropriate than the Porn Star and the Playboy Playmate.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Trump as a person is a piece of ####... What do you think of the women who slept with him ?
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Look, 63 million people voted for Trump, and I would guess that almost none of them would be shocked by this behavior. The voters knew what kind of guy this was; they voted for him anyhow.
I think America is highly disappointed in Trump and it will be borne out this November. I think any decent Democratic candidate will have a great chance to defeat Trump in 2020. But none of it will have anything to do with Stormy Daniels.
Lets move on.
I think America is highly disappointed in Trump and it will be borne out this November. I think any decent Democratic candidate will have a great chance to defeat Trump in 2020. But none of it will have anything to do with Stormy Daniels.
Lets move on.
saintfool
Dead sexy
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
saintfool
Dead sexy
You're more or less right. Daniels relationship with Trump isn't the story here really. It opens the door to Mueller, I suppose, and a Dem congress that could go after him finally with the payments to her.
The Commish
Footballguy
no....NDA was established 10 days before election
ETA: Well, sort of "established"....wasn't signed by Donnie Two Scoops.
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I kinda think threatening Daniels when she was with her kid was worse than anything Daniels or McDougal did wrong. Also kinda think cheating on his wife while she's at home caring for his newborn son was substantially worse than anything Daniels or McDougal did wrong. And I kinda think if he was involved in coercing McDougal to sign a catch and kill contract with the National Enquirer based on attorney collusion and false promises (which he obviously was), that would be worse than anything Daniels or McDougal did wrong.
In fact I'm not entirely sure what Daniels and McDougal did wrong, as I believe both were single at the time of their affairs with Trump and entitled to sleep with any low-life public figure they choose, and any public figure too stupid to realize their partners might tell people about the affairs made their own bed.
But I suppose morality is a subjective thing, misogynistic shtick account guy. You do you.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
They can’t keep their story straight. The company is supposed to be the party, instead the lawyer for the lawyer for the president just says he represents Cohen. Trump is supposed to not be involved, instead his own Trump Org counsel appears in Trump’s name and joins in the arbitration demand. I’m really just waiting for a judge to act and it may not be until June-July.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I must say, I do not recall Ditka Butkis being like this. it disturbs me. I sincerely hope that the common elements in our screen names does not cause others to conflate the two of us.
Anyhow, have fun discussing the events of the day.
Anyhow, have fun discussing the events of the day.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Yeah sure, there's at least two dozen other stories about Trump that show what a low-life piece of garbage he is, not to mention what a huge national security risk it is because his embarrassing and almost certainly criminal past makes him vulnerable to blackmailing and corruption. But if this one that sticks and makes a few more people realize it because it's lurid and gossipy and fairly straightforward, that's a good thing for the country. If not, fine, on to the next one. But I don't see the harm in pressing it. What exactly are we sacrificing by doing so?
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
He's always been exactly like this. You sure you're not confusing him with Limp Ditka? I've made that mistake before.
Trump was a married man with a newborn at home. He promised a porn star a spot on his TV show to give her exposure. He used his money and power to bang a woman who wouldn't even give him a second look under normal circumstances. He then paid her off to keep his adultery from ruining his election bid.
I'd say that Stormy is a person who uses sex to make a living. That's her gig. Sleeping with Trump was just another example of it. On the piece of #### scale, I'd put her at about a four. Trump is a legit, disgusting ten.
Sand
Footballguy
And who doesn't on the bolded (besides gay guys)?
This whole thing - rich guy pays for sex.
Never liked him, still don't like him, but this whole thing is nothing but a 4th estate revenge plot come to fruition.
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
The funny thing is what a different tune you guys are singing now that it isn't Bill Clinton.And who doesn't on the bolded (besides gay guys)?
This whole thing - rich guy pays for sex.
Sand
Footballguy
I like Bill Clinton. But he did his thing in office - that's a whole other level.
The rest of it with him never bothered me. It's obvious he's in an open marriage.
ETA: But if we want to go down the road of whataboutisms let's have some chats about JFK and our buddy Lyndon "Jumbo" Johnson.
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And Trump paid off numerous women to silence them to avoid losing the election. That's a whole other level.
I like Bill Clinton. But he did his thing in office - that's a whole other level.
The rest of it with him never bothered me. It's obvious he's in an open marriage.
Listening to you guys try to justify this is hilarious!
Henry Ford
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
The sex isn't really the problem here. It's the cover-up and the threats and the lies and character attacks and the violations of campaign finance laws, which were going on while he was the GOP nominee for president and continue as he's the president. The sex is just what gets people to pay attention to this story, as opposed to the dozens of other stories of his unethical behavior and vulnerability to blackmail.
I like Bill Clinton. But he did his thing in office - that's a whole other level.
The rest of it with him never bothered me. It's obvious he's in an open marriage.
That plus the fact that Trump is the GOP and the GOP is the party that spent the better part of the last two decades attacking equal rights in the name of defending "the sanctity of marriage" while attacking Obama for everything he'd done in his entire life literally from birth, with Trump himself joining many of those efforts.
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Sand
Footballguy
Rich men have been paying for sex for, oh, all of human history, I'm sure. None of this surprises me, particularly given what Trump was before the election.
The General
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Unprotected sex with a porn star and a playmate makes this irrelevant. At that point he’s endangering his wife and child. Though if the argument is it’s a sham marriage then maybe that helps.
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Sand
Footballguy
I'm sure you're right - and that's pretty sad. Maybe I just have different views than most on this stuff. Glass houses and all that (not saying I've paid 6 figures for Stormy Daniels' company - :X - just to get that out there.)
squistion
Footballguy
The Stormy Daniels ‘60 Minutes’ interview is on pace to be the most-watched episode in nearly 10 years
http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/stormy-daniels-interview-on-pace-to-be-most-watched-60-minutes-since-2008/360225
http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/stormy-daniels-interview-on-pace-to-be-most-watched-60-minutes-since-2008/360225
Sand
Footballguy
I was speaking of Clinton there. I highly doubt Trump was ever in an open marriage. It's plainly obvious the Clintons are.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
About 20 years ago, sheesh, maybe 25, some GB's and myself decided to catch a Cub game. It was the end of May and cold and ####, actually snowing. So we head to a bar to escape the cold and as a GB and myself are talking a couple of cute young ladies walk over to introduce themselves. One of them was Amanda which I remember because GB replied "oh the same as my daughter". They left immediately.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
My takeaways:
Trump gets as exited by his own picture as he does a porn star.
Trumps lawyer layered incompetency upon incompetency and then maybe topped it with fraud and coercion.
Trump took efforts to hide truths from the electorate and in doing so clumsily, though his lawyers, may have violated campaign finance laws.
Now just as I was not overly concerned with Clinton's tawdry behavior but rather his behavior with the Court and litigants, so too am I concerned about the legal matters here. I want a Chief Executive that is candid with the American People except, perhaps, in matters of national security, and one who respects the rule of law. I'm old fashioned like that. If he violated campaign finance laws in his haste to keep the truth from the American electorate on the eve of an election I find that highly relevant, even if the violation was one of hasteful oversight on a technical campaign finance reporting requirement.
Trump gets as exited by his own picture as he does a porn star.
Trumps lawyer layered incompetency upon incompetency and then maybe topped it with fraud and coercion.
Trump took efforts to hide truths from the electorate and in doing so clumsily, though his lawyers, may have violated campaign finance laws.
Now just as I was not overly concerned with Clinton's tawdry behavior but rather his behavior with the Court and litigants, so too am I concerned about the legal matters here. I want a Chief Executive that is candid with the American People except, perhaps, in matters of national security, and one who respects the rule of law. I'm old fashioned like that. If he violated campaign finance laws in his haste to keep the truth from the American electorate on the eve of an election I find that highly relevant, even if the violation was one of hasteful oversight on a technical campaign finance reporting requirement.
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Workhorse
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The Commish
Footballguy
Of course....how does this address the potential issues created via the lens of improper contributions to a campaign? I don't think anyone here cares about the sex part, even though at least some of the same people who don't have a problem with it now did have a problem with it During Slick Willy's term. Pointing out that hypocrisy at this point is simply piling on.
msommer
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
If we're all gonna sing kumbaya here and agree that infidelity is no longer a disqualifying factor in a president, then I'd like us all to stay consistent about that going forward.
Any of youse got a problem widdat?
Any of youse got a problem widdat?
Koya
Footballguy
Really? A President and his legal are using threats of violence and other coercive measures in addition to promoting fraudulent misrepresentation is ok with you?
Has our bar been lowered that far?
So Clinton gets impeached for a BJ. John Edwards' political career is destroyed because he had sex while married. But Donald Trump gets a pass because he's always been an adulterous piece of ####? That's the new GOP goal post?
Workhorse
Footballguy
That's a good point. I meant more along the lines of the tawdriness of the whole Stormy/Trump relationship. None of the gory details interest me in the least.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I've read the articles of impeachment against Clinton. BJ's were not listed. As for Edwards I believe he went down for hypocrisy, not extramarital sex. His story, the base of his support was his strong family ties weathered through a bought with breast cancer in his wife. He was the stalwart who stood with her. Thus was the image. The reality of him fathering a kid on a campaign worker while his wife languished did him in. He lived by the Oprah crowd and he died by them.
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Koya
Footballguy
Regardless where you stand on that issue, it's not close to the most damning accusations here. Setting someone up with an attorney who is on the take while physically threatening and coercing someone into doing as you wish is so far beyond what SHOULD be acceptable to the American public.
But we see clearly that many among us simply don't actually have a moral code, or at least not he code of a person with enough substance and spine to hold all folks accountable by it... and while according to that code we can argue the merits of who cheats and when, there's far less wiggle room (unless you are a hypocrite or honesty jus say you really are not someone that supports law and order and doing the right thing) when it comes to the other accusations here.
Again, any president prior to Trump might not get past this, but on his scale even these accusations are hardly the worst we know. Says a lot about the people willing to support such a disgusting human being.
Koya
Footballguy
Pretty much with you there. That's hardly the issue - other than the clear hypocrisy it shows among a group of flip flopping, weak willed pathetic cheerleaders who clearly stand for nothing more than their team, their guy, their party and "screwing the Liberals"
Sand
Footballguy
Junior obviously does.
There is a big difference between some activities as a private citizen and as POTUS. So, yeah, Slick Willie and his cigar were a much bigger thing than this from that point of view. The 60 minutes interview was just political assassination over tawdry behavior when a private citizen - meh.
The campaign funding violations are a big deal, though. And his lawyer is an idiot.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Clinton's book has been written. - Trump is president right now. As a public official people have a right to know what he did here.
Banger
Footballguy
Sand
Footballguy
Clinton got impeached for lying to Congress, if I recall. Edwards got caught up in his affair during the election - bad timing. The electorate is a fickle beast.
I have no idea if Trump would have gotten a pass during the election process if this came out. I suspect not.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The idea this isn't a legitimate journalistic public issue worth covering is absolutely laughable.And who doesn't on the bolded (besides gay guys)?
This whole thing - rich guy pays for sex.
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