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Yes. This kind of comes down to Doug's process for maintaining accountability and high standards. I can see giving your franchise QB input into the game plan and play calling but if it makes the offense less effective, then it needs to end, regardless of how much Carson wants to do it. Will be hard to ever find out the truth, but it's an interesting thing to think about.
I mean - I've seen a variety of picks mocked to us, sometimes I saw us mocked a pick at #6 that another draft had going #15.
Well for a couple of seconds and a conditional 3rd, Indy could probably land their QB of the future to regain that connection this off season.
Ya well a lot can happen. Usually most mocks (if they're done properly) will just use the current standings for the order they use.
I can see something like that being the difference between 2017 and 2018/2019 but Wentz on field execution and decision making going off a cliff can't be just that.
There's no questions its different, although I'd love to see someone better at breaking down plays give more clarity to it.
It’s not just about the carries. They used him in the pass game and the entire offense was RPO based from what I recall. They leaned heavily on him. The OL played their best game of the season too which helps and very few penalties. I really hope this OL can play together the remainder of the season.
IMO, his arm strength is OK. It's not bad, but just NFL average. He has a slow windup though. So does Wentz, but he has a cannon. So Hurts has a slower than average release and less velocity on the ball.
I’m fascinated on how two people can argue over the percentage of suckage of your own team? For pages and pages. It’s like you HAVE to have the last word. No wonder you guys brag about how massive your team thread is. It’s comedic that now you argue over just how bad the team is.Haha jeez so defensive
I like you and your posts, but man.... it's not the same. I said it was possible we win, you said it was actually IMPOSSIBLE.... we won. End of story.
Either way the win isn't a good thing. But there's a chance we win out now and win the div.
We're passionate fans. We discuss all things even when they go bad. Unlike your thread that is only active when the team is winning... it's had what, 1 post in the last couple months? Cowboys fans post more in this thread than in their own.... little weird. Next.I’m fascinated on how two people can argue over the percentage of suckage of your own team? For pages and pages. It’s like you HAVE to have the last word. No wonder you guys brag about how massive your team thread is. It’s comedic that now you argue over just how bad the team is.
Next week vs. Cardinals actually. They blitz a lot, disguise coverages and drop Edge players into underneath coverage. I watched a couple of games early in the season because Murray. If the knocks on Hurts are true, this kind of thing should trouble him.
Yes noticed that for awhile. Also the ok emoji changes to just a smiley face. Can't be too terrified of words and symbols now.
True, but it's still better overall for the franchise to see some like out of their young players, especially Reagor and the Oline. We're still likely to have a top 10 pick, unless we win out.
I don’t see how this is protective of Wentz to be honest.
If we win out it just prolongs the inevitable. The flaws with Howie and Doug will still remain but just for another miserable year.
If the HC is using the players input to run an offense that is sucking he should be fired immediately. I’m not remotely trying to hear that Doug is a victim in this at all. He’s been bad for a while now and as well as he did yesterday his flaws still stood out again
I get the passion, actual I like reading all four of the East threads as it’s good info on what each team is dealing with in a horrible division. I like lots of the homer posters in each, including yours. I’m a fan of Doug, although he is definitely struggling, and am just as perplexed as to why he’s changed his style of coaching.
If they could pull that off, I think it would benefit both teams. Carson with a fresh start in another city may be just what he needs. No way he would be worse than Scam Newton.Hurts not looking back. Starter for the remainder of 2020 and 2021.
Wentz to the Patriots.
But I think what people are not factoring in is will teams be willing to take on the contract of the worst starting qb in the NFL in 2020? It is a huge gamble for a team to take on Wentz contract. I feel like his connection to Reich might lead Colts to put out feelers but as a gm would you be willing to put your job on the line to hope Wentz can become a solid qb again?
Yeah. If that happens he has to go. No matter what side of the QB fence you’re on it’s not fair to the other to constantly have to look over their shoulder instead of being the guy. I do think they have failed big time in doing that with Carson. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that his best year came when he didn’t have to worry about losing his spot.
Peters having someone’s ear or respect is different than someone influencing the game plan IMO. If you and I are working together and your advice is constantly making us look bad than as a superior I have to remove you from the equation if it’s my job first. Doug is a SB winning HC
It’s not the risk you think. If their coaches feel he’s correctable and coachable you’ll have teams lining up. The money is the issue for both teams.
If he gets back to even 2019 form, that contract is a bargain. That's why they signed him to it. No one anticipated this.
He needs to answer it either way. If Carson isn't smart enough to run the plays, you need to tell us that. There's no need to protect him if it's going to cost you your job. I don't suspect Carson being too dumb to be able to run RPOs though.
I agree but there’s obviously something there. I’m trying to look through both lenses and either way I view it, it comes off as a Doug problem. What other SB winning coach let’s players walk all over them? I’m genuinely asking. If the narrative is Wentz is bullying him or not listening etc at what point do you stop going square peg and round hole as a coach? Or why can’t you coach/teach and get your message across to this one player?
Ya I don't know where you're going with that. You are usually one of the better Dallas posters that doesn't come here to troll and actually has some good insight on things, but I think you are a bit off here. We were trying to figure out the probability if we'd get a top 5 pick or not and disagreeing on if it was a sure thing or not. If you don't like the posts here you don't have to read them.I get the passion, actual I like reading all four of the East threads as it’s good info on what each team is dealing with in a horrible division. I like lots of the homer posters in each, including yours. I’m a fan of Doug, although he is definitely struggling, and am just as perplexed as to why he’s changed his style of coaching.
It’s weird how because some of you “own” this thread somehow that you argue over the percentage of how bad something is? Then, you ALWAYS have to have the last word. It’s like two ten year olds in the backseat.... “stop touching me, you touched me first, no you did, DADDDD!!!”
Maybe nobody post on the Dallas thread because we all agree we suck and don’t have to “win or get the last word” because it’s 12 percent instead of 13 percent probablity of continued suckage?
I’ll bow out now so you can have the last word on this.
As far as football related content, I think the move to Hurts was a payoff because he seems to be able to read and react so much better than Carson. With the Oline struggles, Hurts doesn’t wait around for plays to develop. Maybe that’s coach/play calling or maybe he’s just a better QB?
Lol thank you.
