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The Jewish settlers had a chance at a one party state, in multiple locations, where no one would ever screw with them. And they rejected it.
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I'm trying to catch up here so this may have been (probably was) already addressed. I found this article recently...
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This is 7 years old but was helpful.
The Israel-Palestine conflict: a brief, simple history
The conflict is really only 100 years old.Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjOOne of the biggest myths about the Israel-Palestine conflict is that ...youtu.be
I am purposely staying out of this discussion, but please don't go there. Even as a Jewish individual, I readily admit that Israel is far from innocent, but seeing those 260+ innocent festival concertgoers, as one example, seems to indicate where the terrorism lies.
Not something I've looked into and don't care to either. That article definitely has a pro-Palestinian perspective to it, but I thought it was still a good summary so I shared it.
It’s the only way to keep it going. No outrage = no terrorists organizations rising to power.
I'm trying to catch up here so this may have been (probably was) already addressed. I found this article recently...
What is Hamas and why is it fighting with Israel in Gaza?
Why did Hamas attack Israel, and what has happened in Gaza since the 7 October raid?
PragerU is a joke, sorryThis is 7 years old but was helpful.
The Israel-Palestine conflict: a brief, simple history
The conflict is really only 100 years old.Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjOOne of the biggest myths about the Israel-Palestine conflict is that ...
A Conservative friend shared this short video with me on explaining the problem. https://www.prageru.com/video/the-middle-east-problem
Thoughts?
It lies on both sides
I don't think Jewish centers are targets for the pro-Palestinian crowd. There is a difference between being anti-Israel/anti-zionism and anti Jewish
Were you asleep all weekend?
If the Palestinians would lay down their arms and refuse to fight Israel anymore, they would co-exist in peace.Israel is the real terrorist here. They don't get to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians for decades and act like the victim.
It is sad but what did we expect to happen when diplomacy failed, and the world turned its back on them?
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So incredible
Yeah, this is a pipe dream. Israel won't stop until the Palestinians are gone.If the Palestinians would lay down their arms and refuse to fight Israel anymore, they would co-exist in peace.Israel is the real terrorist here. They don't get to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians for decades and act like the victim.
It is sad but what did we expect to happen when diplomacy failed, and the world turned its back on them?
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@BtSIsrael: Hamas's attack and the events unfolding since yesterday are unspeakable. We could talk about their cruel and criminal actions, or focus on how our Jewish-supremacist govt brought us to this point. But as...…
If Israel would lay down their arms and refuse to fight the Palestinians anymore, they would driven out of the country by force.
You know it, I know it and the whole world knows it which is why they let Israel be heavy handed.
Name one instance of the Jewish people acting even remotely like what happened this week? Slaughtering 100's of civilians? Women and children? Taking hostages with public executions?
I'm going to stop there and reserve what I really think of your post, but suffice it to say I disagree. Strongly.
It's a small part of one side of the story. Israel is NOT innocent in this situation, but that's the vibe the clip is suggesting. It's not true that Palestinians don't want to recognize Israel's right to exist. They do. They just want them to exist elsewhere. It all comes back to the land and what both groups think is their birthright provided by God. It all comes back to that. At the beginning of that video, I thought that's where he was going and I was ready to eat my shoe to hear something that level-headed from Prager, but then it was quickly back to the standard talking points. Where I do agree is that it's a simple problem to define, but not an easy one to fix. In my view, it cannot be fixed.This is 7 years old but was helpful.
The Israel-Palestine conflict: a brief, simple history
The conflict is really only 100 years old.Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjOOne of the biggest myths about the Israel-Palestine conflict is that ...
A Conservative friend shared this short video with me on explaining the problem. https://www.prageru.com/video/the-middle-east-problem
Thoughts?
My news feed is kind of spotty given my location and I had 4 games to coach so I wasn't online much. What specifically are you referring to?
The idea that pro-Palestinian terrorists wouldn't stoop to attack Jewish centers.
"Trying to legitimize a modern land claim by pointing to an ancient religious text that says you briefly ruled the area 3,000 years ago after genociding the natives. Israel exists, and that is enough to justify its continued existence, you don’t need an ancient myth to make it real." Darryl Cooper
X is rife with warnings about being in large cities over the coming months. One only has to look at the protests in New York to see how this could potentially erupt into more than two sides yelling at one another. It's not like our southern border has been a road block to any and all that want to enter the country so very conceivable that there are factions of folks who don't like America that waltzed into the country over the last few months and are plotting exactly what folks are saying won't happen. Head on a swivel folks.
Basically, Hamas (Iran) is in a battle with the Saudi's for legitimacy in the Arab world. Israel is on one side (Saudi with the new peace initiative) and Palestine (specifically Gaza) is on the other side. So it is basically a proxy war to shake up the status quo.
So nothing outside of Israel?
My synagogue currently has armed police force outside the doors, and I know for fact that we're not alone. Actually, armed guards have been a regular occurrence at countless synagogues since the Pittsburgh massacre several years ago. That tragedy was of course not Hamas-driven, but the ongoing threat of anti-Semitism is real and cannot be ignored.
Yeah, we need to insert Iran in these ideas about intent, because the Palestinians didn't build all those rockets in their garages.
Seems to be apretty subjective point in time to start keeping score of who has slaughtered more innocents in this conflict.
I agree and I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. Sorry if the "pretty low" part came across the wrong way. I meant that as "this is unlikely to happen but it is prudent to take precautions."
No worries at all - I was agreeing with you and largely referring to the previous comment that it's mainly an Israel thing. I totally agree with you that it's unlikely to happen here, but it's still a non-zero risk and can't take that chance that it always happens somewhere else.
Israel could annihilate the Palestinians tomorrow with the push of a button. They've had this ability for a very long time. They don't do it. If Hamas had nukes, what do you think would happen? We all know the answer. Israel would be a piece of glass before the days end.Yeah, this is a pipe dream. Israel won't stop until the Palestinians are gone.If the Palestinians would lay down their arms and refuse to fight Israel anymore, they would co-exist in peace.Israel is the real terrorist here. They don't get to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians for decades and act like the victim.
It is sad but what did we expect to happen when diplomacy failed, and the world turned its back on them?
Thread by @BtSIsrael on Thread Reader App
@BtSIsrael: Hamas's attack and the events unfolding since yesterday are unspeakable. We could talk about their cruel and criminal actions, or focus on how our Jewish-supremacist govt brought us to this point. But as...…
If Israel would lay down their arms and refuse to fight the Palestinians anymore, they would driven out of the country by force.
You know it, I know it and the whole world knows it which is why they let Israel be heavy handed.
Name one instance of the Jewish people acting even remotely like what happened this week? Slaughtering 100's of civilians? Women and children? Taking hostages with public executions?
I'm going to stop there and reserve what I really think of your post, but suffice it to say I disagree. Strongly.
Great post.
I've already stated that this makes the most sense to me. I believe their hope is that Israel really does go scorched earth and pushes the rest of the Arab world to put their differences aside and come to the aid of the Palestinians. I don't think this will happen (hope is more like it) but I believe that is their calculus, probably being further goaded by Iran secretly telling them that they, for one, will join the fight.
Did you miss the protests in NYC outside the Israeli consulate where the protesters waived sings saying "from the river to the sea" (a known nod to genocide of Jews) and chanting Israel go to hell?
Why do you thinkthey don't do it?Israel could annihilate the Palestinians tomorrow with the push of a button. They've had this ability for a very long time. They don't do it. If Hamas had nukes, what do you think would happen? We all know the answer. Israel would be a piece of glass before the days end.Yeah, this is a pipe dream. Israel won't stop until the Palestinians are gone.If the Palestinians would lay down their arms and refuse to fight Israel anymore, they would co-exist in peace.Israel is the real terrorist here. They don't get to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians for decades and act like the victim.
It is sad but what did we expect to happen when diplomacy failed, and the world turned its back on them?
Thread by @BtSIsrael on Thread Reader App
@BtSIsrael: Hamas's attack and the events unfolding since yesterday are unspeakable. We could talk about their cruel and criminal actions, or focus on how our Jewish-supremacist govt brought us to this point. But as...…
If Israel would lay down their arms and refuse to fight the Palestinians anymore, they would driven out of the country by force.
You know it, I know it and the whole world knows it which is why they let Israel be heavy handed.
Name one instance of the Jewish people acting even remotely like what happened this week? Slaughtering 100's of civilians? Women and children? Taking hostages with public executions?
I'm going to stop there and reserve what I really think of your post, but suffice it to say I disagree. Strongly.
I would say that the majority of those protesting in New York hate America also.
You can give whatever leniency or severity that you want. My post was responding to your comment of there being nothing outside of Israel, which was clearly wrong. Chanting Israel go to hell, 24 hours after these attacks seems at best in really poor taste. Is it much of a stretch to think that of this group that finds it ok to do so, there may be some more hardliner elements within that would be willing to go further? I think so, you do not. I don't think its too much a stretch for Jewish centers or Synagogues to have their backs up a bit. Do you?
Nevermind. Don't want to blow up the thread.
People, who I assume are Pro-Palestine, have been posting clips from a recent documentary about Tantura, a massacre that occurred in 1948. Reading about this led me to learn about the Stern Gang or Lehi, who are recognized as a zionist terrorist group from the 1940s. They tried multiple times to align themselves with the Nazis against the British.If the Palestinians would lay down their arms and refuse to fight Israel anymore, they would co-exist in peace.Israel is the real terrorist here. They don't get to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians for decades and act like the victim.
It is sad but what did we expect to happen when diplomacy failed, and the world turned its back on them?
Thread by @BtSIsrael on Thread Reader App
@BtSIsrael: Hamas's attack and the events unfolding since yesterday are unspeakable. We could talk about their cruel and criminal actions, or focus on how our Jewish-supremacist govt brought us to this point. But as...…
If Israel would lay down their arms and refuse to fight the Palestinians anymore, they would driven out of the country by force.
You know it, I know it and the whole world knows it which is why they let Israel be heavy handed.
Name one instance of the Jewish people acting even remotely like what happened this week? Slaughtering 100's of civilians? Women and children? Taking hostages with public executions?
I'm going to stop there and reserve what I really think of your post, but suffice it to say I disagree. Strongly.
My ignore list has added a couple new members this morning. Best feature on the board.
My first reaction when I saw the clips was, "Is this English CC translation accurate or a hoax?" Having read more, I understand that the clips are from a 2022 documentary by a Jewish director. Many former IDF soldiers were interviewed. There is a long history of this incident being covered up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantura_massacre
Am I a troll? If I am, I will try to stop being one.
Not directed at you at all.
