Is this the weirdest stat in sports history? (2 Viewers)

[ChiefD]

Bret Saberhagen had an “odd” start to his career.

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Season	W-L	ERA
1984	10-11	3.48
1985	20-6	2.87
1986	7-12	4.15
1987	18-10	3.36
1988	14-16	3.80
1989	23-6	2.16
1990	5-9	3.27
1991	13-8	3.07
1992	3-5	3.50
1993	7-7	3.29

I don't understand this one.

Better in odd numbered years

 

[Zow]

Guys, respectfully, impressive is not the same as weird.

I can't tell if it's impressive or weird that you keep saying this

Words have meanings.

 

[Snoopy]

Guys, respectfully, impressive is not the same as weird.

I can't tell if it's impressive or weird that you keep saying this

Words have meanings.

as evidenced by the dictionary.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Bret Saberhagen had an “odd” start to his career.

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Season	W-L	ERA
1984	10-11	3.48
1985	20-6	2.87
1986	7-12	4.15
1987	18-10	3.36
1988	14-16	3.80
1989	23-6	2.16
1990	5-9	3.27
1991	13-8	3.07
1992	3-5	3.50
1993	7-7	3.29

I don't understand this one.

Better in odd numbered years

The Eric Moulds of pitchers.

 

[Zow]

Guys, respectfully, impressive is not the same as weird.

I can't tell if it's impressive or weird that you keep saying this

Words have meanings.

as evidenced by the dictionary.

And not by this thread. Though I suppose the two concepts are not mutually exclusive.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I think this is still true...

Receiving yards for all players age 40 and up:

Jerry Rice: 2,509

Tom Brady: 6

Everyone except Brett Favre: 0

Brett Favre: -2

Does that mean that there are only 3 players in NFL history with a reception over the age of 40 and that 2 of them are QBs? That’s a pretty fun trivia question.

 

[Mister CIA]

Bret Saberhagen had an “odd” start to his career.

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Season	W-L	ERA
1984	10-11	3.48
1985	20-6	2.87
1986	7-12	4.15
1987	18-10	3.36
1988	14-16	3.80
1989	23-6	2.16
1990	5-9	3.27
1991	13-8	3.07
1992	3-5	3.50
1993	7-7	3.29

I don't understand this one.

Compare odd years to even years. See also, Eric Moulds.

 

[Scoresman]

It is more common for a person to walk on the moon than for Mariano Rivera to have given up a run in the playoffs. Rivera had 11 earned runs in the playoffs, and 12 people have walked on the moon.

Funny you should bring this one up. I also have given up less runs in the MLB playoffs than men have walked on the moon.

 

[Ilov80s]

I think this is still true...

Receiving yards for all players age 40 and up:

Jerry Rice: 2,509

Tom Brady: 6

Everyone except Brett Favre: 0

Brett Favre: -2

Does that mean that there are only 3 players in NFL history with a reception over the age of 40 and that 2 of them are QBs? That’s a pretty fun trivia question.

Yes, I believe so

 

[Dr. Octopus]

98-yard punt

Bonus stat: I regularly play golf with the punter who owns the second longest punt in NFL history of 93 yards (he's the pro at my club).

i golf with a guy who owns the record for throwing his club after a shot and getting it stuck in a tree about 40 feet off of the ground so put that in your pipe and smoke it take that to the bank bromigo

We’re all bromigoes here, you can tell us. It’s you isn’t it?

 

[Galileo]

1960 World Series New York Yankees vs. Pittsburg Pirates:
NY out scored PIT 55-21
NY out hit PIT 91-60
NY out batted PIT .338 - .256
NY pitcher, Whitey Ford pitched 2 complete game shutouts
PIT wins the series

 

[Galileo]

WR Larry Fitzgerald has more career tackles (41) than dropped passes (29)

 

[GroveDiesel]

There are a few of these but examples of Simpson's Paradox always blow my mind:

In the 1995 season, David Justice had a higher batting average than Derek Jeter.
In the 1996 season, David Justice had a higher batting average than Derek Jeter.


However, Derek Jeter had a higher batting average over the 1995-1996 seasons combined.

I know it has to be some sort of weighting thing, but I'm still struggling to figure out how this is possible.

It was messing with my head as well, but basically the idea is both of their averages were low in a season where Jeter had few at bats and Justice had a lot, and both of their averages were high in a season where Jeter had a lot of at bats and Justice had a few.

So for a an extreme example where Player 2 has a higher batting average in each season but a lower average overall...

Year 1, Player 1: 1/10 = .100 batting average
Year 1, Player 2: 150/1000 = .150 batting average

Year 2, Player 1: 800/1000 = .800 batting average
Year 2, Player 2: 9/10 = .900 batting average

Total, Player 1: 801/1010 = .793 batting average
Total, Player 2: 159/1010 = .157 batting average

In the case of Jeter/Justice, Jeter was 12/48 and 183/582 in the two seasons, and Justice was 104/411 and 45/140 in the two seasons.

Even though Justice was higher in both seasons, Jeter's total was actually not just a little bit higher, but quite a bit (.310 vs. .270).

This helps understand how it could be possible too:
At bats:

Justice 95 - 411
Justice 96 - 140
Jeter 95 - 48
Jeter 96 - 582

 

[Mister CIA]

Not a proper stat, but Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson wins $28M Lottery in 2000.

 

[Galileo]

Baltimore Colts WR Blake Turner averaged 111 yds per catch in 1962

He was credited with 37 receiving yards with zero catches in one game after getting a lateral from his teammate who caught the pass. His only other catch that season was a 74 yd TD reception. 14 games played (primarily a return man) 1/111/1 stat line receiving.

 

[Zegras11]

In junior high football game, we had seven straight plays with an interception. I made the interception on plays 1,3,5 and 7. I was so pissed off at 2 and 4, that I took over as QB and threw the 6th play.

 

[SWC]

98-yard punt

Bonus stat: I regularly play golf with the punter who owns the second longest punt in NFL history of 93 yards (he's the pro at my club).

i golf with a guy who owns the record for throwing his club after a shot and getting it stuck in a tree about 40 feet off of the ground so put that in your pipe and smoke it take that to the bank bromigo

We’re all bromigoes here, you can tell us. It’s you isn’t it?

i aint sayin but i will say the he is devilishly handsome and all the guys want to be him and all the papershakers think they can change him take that to the bank brochacho

 

[Jayrod]

Don Mattingly, grand slams by season

1982 - 0
1983 - 0
1984 - 0
1985 - 0
1986 - 0
1987 - 6 <----- MLB single season record
1988 - 0
1989 - 0
1990 - 0
1991 - 0
1992- 0
1993 - 0
1994 - 0
1995 - 0

On a COMPLETELY unrelated note, Mattingly spent the Spring of 1987 in Oakland.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

From 1992 to 1995, Tony Gwynn had more runs scored than swings and misses.

Tony Gwynn - 912 runs scored, ~693 swinging strikes

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Babe Ruth stole Home 10 times in his career.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Robin Ventura became the first player in baseball history to get 6 hits off of Nolan Ryan in the same inning.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Robin Ventura became the first player in baseball history to get 6 hits off of Nolan Ryan in the same inning.

Classic.

 

[Deamon]

Bret Saberhagen had an “odd” start to his career.

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Season	W-L	ERA
1984	10-11	3.48
1985	20-6	2.87
1986	7-12	4.15
1987	18-10	3.36
1988	14-16	3.80
1989	23-6	2.16
1990	5-9	3.27
1991	13-8	3.07
1992	3-5	3.50
1993	7-7	3.29

I don't understand this one.

I think he only had winning seasons in odd numbered years.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Jim Harbaugh has more career rushing yards than Bo Jackson

 

[wlwiles]

Maybe not truly weird but definitely unusual.

Anybody that remembers the 90's Braves string of division titles should remember 2B Mark Lemke. In his 11 year MLB career he accumulated over 3400 AB's (regular and postseason) and was never once hit by a pitch.

 

[titusbramble]

I love the weird stuff like Peyton Manning's longest rushing attempt went further than Trent Richardson's, but in terms of pure outliers, Don Bradman could have had another 40 straight ducks after his last Test innings was a duck and he'd still have the highest career batting average

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Good stuff here!

 

[General Malaise]

This one happened this past Sunday:

Houston and Atlanta were the first two teams in NFL history to have the score 11-10 at Halftime.

Woz, is that weird enough for you?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Peyton Manning's longest rushing attempt went further than Trent Richardson's

I really like this one.

 

[Zow]

This one happened this past Sunday:

Houston and Atlanta were the first two teams in NFL history to have the score 11-10 at Halftime.

Woz, is that weird enough for you?

Yep. And I'd throw in that, speaking of last weekend, the Cowboys/Rams game marked the first time ever that an NFL game ended 43-20.

 

[Schmeabs]

Bret Saberhagen had an “odd” start to his career.

Season	W-L	ERA
1984	10-11	3.48
1985	20-6	2.87
1986	7-12	4.15
1987	18-10	3.36
1988	14-16	3.80
1989	23-6	2.16
1990	5-9	3.27
1991	13-8	3.07
1992	3-5	3.50
1993	7-7	3.29

Bret Saberhagen is also the only major league pitcher since 1919 to have over 150 innings pitched and record more wins than walks in a season. In 1993 he had 14 wins and 13 walks.

In 2000 while pitching in AA I had 179 innings pitched and recorded 17 wins and only 15 walks allowed. My personal best accomplishment.

 

[Zow]

Bret Saberhagen had an “odd” start to his career.

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Season	W-L	ERA
1984	10-11	3.48
1985	20-6	2.87
1986	7-12	4.15
1987	18-10	3.36
1988	14-16	3.80
1989	23-6	2.16
1990	5-9	3.27
1991	13-8	3.07
1992	3-5	3.50
1993	7-7	3.29

Bret Saberhagen is also the only major league pitcher since 1919 to have over 150 innings pitched and record more wins than walks in a season. In 1993 he had 14 wins and 13 walks.

In 2000 while pitching in AA I had 179 innings pitched and recorded 17 wins and only 15 walks allowed. My personal best accomplishment.

Dude that's really cool.

 

[Skipdog77]

Gordie Howe recorded a "Gordie Howe Hat Trick" (goal, assist, fight in the same game) just twice in his career.

Rick Tocchet did it 18 times and Brendan Shanahan 17 times. Milan Lucic has done it more times than Howe (3).

 

[higgins]

Ok, now you people are just making things up….

 

[Sand]

Babe Ruth stole Home 10 times in his career.

Rickey Henderson only 4. That does not compute.

 

[titusbramble]

Babe Ruth stole Home 10 times in his career.

Rickey Henderson only 4. That does not compute.

Must be a case of Ruth having more opportunities and/or defensive play being much improved in terms of preventing stealing home

 

[Don Quixote]

Babe Ruth stole Home 10 times in his career.

Rickey Henderson only 4. That does not compute.

Must be a case of Ruth having more opportunities and/or defensive play being much improved in terms of preventing stealing home

Double steals were a lot more common back then.

 

[General Malaise]

Babe Ruth stole Home 10 times in his career.

Rickey Henderson only 4. That does not compute.

Must be a case of Ruth having more opportunities and/or defensive play being much improved in terms of preventing stealing home

Double steals were a lot more common back then.

So was playing baseball against guys who were barbers, farriers and telegraph operators.

 

[caustic]

The 2014 Chiefs going an entire season without throwing a TD pass to a WR will always be one of the weirdest sports phenomenons I’ve witnessed. The team wasn’t even bad!

 

[B Maverick]

From 1992 to 1995, Tony Gwynn had more runs scored than swings and misses.

Tony Gwynn - 912 runs scored, ~693 swinging strikes

Look at Gwynn's strikeout totals. He struck out less times over 10 years than most do in 1 year....

 

[Zow]

From 1992 to 1995, Tony Gwynn had more runs scored than swings and misses.

Tony Gwynn - 912 runs scored, ~693 swinging strikes

Look at Gwynn's strikeout totals. He struck out less times over 10 years than most do in 1 year....

"But if a pitcher can change speeds, every hitter is helpless, limited by human vision. Except for that (expletive) Tony Gwynn.”

- Maddux

 

[B Maverick]

Don Mattingly, grand slams by season

1982 - 0
1983 - 0
1984 - 0
1985 - 0
1986 - 0
1987 - 6 <----- MLB single season record
1988 - 0
1989 - 0
1990 - 0
1991 - 0
1992- 0
1993 - 0
1994 - 0
1995 - 0 <------ Don made the playoffs once during his playing career

Just adding some fun to this.

Mattingly is the only Yankee to have his uniform number retired without winning a World Series.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Since this started as a football forum, it might be good to mention this as far as the coach vs QB debate.

Joe Gibbs is the only coach in NFL history to win a Super Bowl with three different quarterbacks.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Joe Gibbs is the only coach in NFL history to win a Super Bowl with three different quarterbacks.

That one may never be broken.

 

[Zow]

Joe Gibbs is the only coach in NFL history to win a Super Bowl with three different quarterbacks.

That one may never be broken.

I tend to agree. Andy Reid has gotten close and I think Kyle Shanahan could have made a run if he had won with Garoppolo.

 

[General Malaise]

Joe Gibbs is the only coach in NFL history to win a Super Bowl with three different quarterbacks.

That one may never be broken.

He did it with a 4th round pick, a 6th round pick and a 1st round pick who wasn't the starter for most of the season in which he won that SB. Amazing.

 

[General Malaise]

Let's say Sean McVay coaches another 20 years - possible at his age. He's got one under his belt with Stafford. Rams could be in play for a top tier QB this draft or next. I mean....if there's one coach who could threaten Gibbs for that record, it's probably the guy who has one in his pocket and just watched his Ukrainian super model wife give birth to their first kid.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Joe Gibbs is the only coach in NFL history to win a Super Bowl with three different quarterbacks.

That one may never be broken.

I tend to agree. Andy Reid has gotten close and I think Kyle Shanahan could have made a run if he had won with Garoppolo.

Even if Reid had gotten one with McNabb, he's gonna get blocked by Mahomes outlasting him. Harbaugh's got one with Flacco and may get one with Jackson, but he'd have to luck into another late in his career (very possibly with another team). Shanny & McVay have chances, I guess, because they are so young. If Tomlin can steal one with Pickett or the like the next few years and last long enough (he should - Steelers never fire coaches), he has a shot.

The thing with Gibbs is, his three were good players but none were within shouting distance of being the league's best in their times.

 

[Anarchy99]

Tom Brady has the second most playoff wins for a QB against NFC opponents (11) but only played 3 seasons in the NFC.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The thing with Gibbs is, his three were good players but none were within shouting distance of being the league's best

Decades in front of the times. Current teams like Eagles and Lions emulate his style of building from the inside, specifically the offensive line.

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