gump
Footballguy
Yep those are the 2 candidates I believe...
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2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (3 Viewers)
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Capella
Footballguy
This is what my big money guy says. Big invite is there, fsu is taking it, gotta work some stuff out. He says it is UNC. Not interested in Clemson at all which is surprising to me.
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The Commish
Footballguy
I get it....there is plenty of football power in the B1G at this point. UNC helps with basketball for sure, plus the TV audience across all sports is larger with UNC than Clemson, so they can charge more in their next TV deal. Really don't know why they are considering Miami though. Seems UNC is the play.
whoknew
Footballguy
Alabama Hiring Former Michigan LB Coach.
Michigan State's AD must be so concerned about the safety of Michigan's players.
Michigan State's AD must be so concerned about the safety of Michigan's players.
Tau837
Footballguy
This is not about basketball. Clemson > UNC in football.
Instinctive
Footballguy
And it's impossible to leave the ACC. We "know."
The Commish
Footballguy
Of course they are, but Clemson <= Top teams already in the B1G moving forward. They don't add anything meaningful to the B1G for football moving forward. And with the B1G, it's rarely ever just one dimension. Of course, Nebraska is the puzzling exception. Still don't know why they took Nebraska.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Silver diplomas are awarded to CSM graduates. Not gonna lie, that’s an awesome diploma.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
FCS Championship semifinal Montana v NDSt is going into OT. Winner gets SDSt in the final.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The FCS semifinal OT was extraordinary. Never seen anything quite like it. Montana in the final.
hagmania
Footballguy
WDIK2
Footballguy
Appears to be official now.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
1st and only (?) Famous Toastery Bowl delivered. Old Dominion went up 28-0 and still lost in overtime. Western Kentucky players celebrated by throwing toast in the air.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Gabriel AND Moore. That’ll do, pig, that’ll do!
3C's
Footballguy
Until yesterday I had no idea what a Famous Toastery was. Guess their money was well spent in getting the word out to the couple of thousand who watched that game.
ODU had a lot of luck jumping out to that lead but I'm kinda surprised they were unable to hold off WKU. Once they made the QB change they went on a roll.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Can't imagine it was much money to sponsor. The whole thing was pretty thrown together, but the Charlotte stadium is nice. A little horseshoe stadium right on campus. Famous Toastery is a notch or two above Denny's I guess. There is one across from my office that I've never been impressed by. Apparently they tried to expand into another state that already had a brunch chain called "Toast" so they went with this stupid name.Until yesterday I had no idea what a Famous Toastery was. Guess their money was well spent in getting the word out to the couple of thousand who watched that game.
ODU had a lot of luck jumping out to that lead but I'm kinda surprised they were unable to hold off WKU. Once they made the QB change they went on a roll.
Clay Helton's son looked lost out there to start the game for WKU. The QB that came in is hitting the portal, bet he is glad to put some of that on tape. He locked into Dalvin Smith down the stretch who looked like a man among boys. Felt like ODU should have spent more time running the ball, particularly with their QB.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I wanted to take the Chip Kelly presser and do an entire thread on the NCAA's need for a Commissioner but I also want to do right by this thread which encompasses a lot
www.youtube.com
Lot of sports shows have played his words over the last couple days and I think he makes a lot of sense as we learn the kind of money needed to grab a quality QB in the portal
Matt Rhule was blunt at his presser and what he tells the administration at Nebraska...blank check basically
When will we see the first $5M a year college QB?
We already see guys that realize they can leave high school and sign anywhere they can play immediately and get paid a lot of money
That is what college football has become, it just isn't presented like that most of the time on TV
Why would an 18 year old sign with a top school like Texas and sit for 2-3 years when they can go to Syracuse and start right away, AND get PAID
I'm waiting to see Miami just pony up and get a big name at QB since Van Dyke fell apart under Cristobal's watch and transferred to Wisconsin, good for him
I am a casual college football fan, mostly just watch Miami when they are worth watching. I'm likely missing out but when you get married its usually either Sat or Sun and I choose to have my Sundays in the Fall with the NFL. I think a lot of folks are like me and don't understand all the ways players are making money right now.
-Is anyone actually tracking the portal...how can you with so many players?
I want to buy a college football team, that's got to be in the cards for rich/wealthy people that cannot get an professional franchise, go buy a college team like Nike did.
The Miami Hurricanes presented by Amazon works for me. We have a guy named John Ruiz that has done well with the Basketball but we need a better football guy.
What would it take to buy a college football program right now or sponsor one with so much money they all but have to listen to you or else you pull back the money?
Quarterbacks are getting paid more money in the NCAA than Purdy and others right now. Maybe an NFL QB with college eligibility left behind can figure a way to go
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They need a Commissioner and they need to get their act together quickly or things are going to end up going badly.
NCAA Football should be its own thing, I agree with Chip that ladies softball at UCLA should be playing other Pac-10/Pac-12 schools, this should not be something where all sports have to be sucked into the 5 power conferences or 64 teams the NCC is ultimately wanting.
What are your alls thoughts on some of this?
I'm old school, still think they should just have the 2 best teams when the polls close in early Dec just duke it out on New Years Day and be done with it but those days are history
Miami won 5 Titles that way, it worked fine but I understand the enthusiasm and TV revenue from a College Football Playoff
Chip Kelly wants to fix college athletics
Chip Kelly sounds off on NIL, the transfer portal and college football.
www.youtube.com
Lot of sports shows have played his words over the last couple days and I think he makes a lot of sense as we learn the kind of money needed to grab a quality QB in the portal
Matt Rhule was blunt at his presser and what he tells the administration at Nebraska...blank check basically
When will we see the first $5M a year college QB?
We already see guys that realize they can leave high school and sign anywhere they can play immediately and get paid a lot of money
That is what college football has become, it just isn't presented like that most of the time on TV
Why would an 18 year old sign with a top school like Texas and sit for 2-3 years when they can go to Syracuse and start right away, AND get PAID
I'm waiting to see Miami just pony up and get a big name at QB since Van Dyke fell apart under Cristobal's watch and transferred to Wisconsin, good for him
I am a casual college football fan, mostly just watch Miami when they are worth watching. I'm likely missing out but when you get married its usually either Sat or Sun and I choose to have my Sundays in the Fall with the NFL. I think a lot of folks are like me and don't understand all the ways players are making money right now.
-Is anyone actually tracking the portal...how can you with so many players?
I want to buy a college football team, that's got to be in the cards for rich/wealthy people that cannot get an professional franchise, go buy a college team like Nike did.
The Miami Hurricanes presented by Amazon works for me. We have a guy named John Ruiz that has done well with the Basketball but we need a better football guy.
What would it take to buy a college football program right now or sponsor one with so much money they all but have to listen to you or else you pull back the money?
Quarterbacks are getting paid more money in the NCAA than Purdy and others right now. Maybe an NFL QB with college eligibility left behind can figure a way to go
BACK to SCHOOL
They need a Commissioner and they need to get their act together quickly or things are going to end up going badly.
NCAA Football should be its own thing, I agree with Chip that ladies softball at UCLA should be playing other Pac-10/Pac-12 schools, this should not be something where all sports have to be sucked into the 5 power conferences or 64 teams the NCC is ultimately wanting.
What are your alls thoughts on some of this?
I'm old school, still think they should just have the 2 best teams when the polls close in early Dec just duke it out on New Years Day and be done with it but those days are history
Miami won 5 Titles that way, it worked fine but I understand the enthusiasm and TV revenue from a College Football Playoff
The Commish
Footballguy
Follow your instincts and do right by this thread by moving this to it's own
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
No, if one were truly "old school", you would return to the pre-BCS era of bowl commitments and praying that voters don't give us a split national championship.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
It should read Tallahassee. You can't tell one redneck Florida town from another without a program.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
"Should Brock Purdy return to college and double his NFL salary?"Follow your instincts and do right by this thread by moving this to it's own
-Do you think I should launch it in the Shark Pool where I belong?
"When are we going to have an NCAA Commissioner?"
I'd like to nominate Chip Kelly, I don't care what he did post-Oregon, he clearly has a brilliant and and has thought long and hard about all this.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Unfortunately, two of the best QBs the Jets ever had.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Joe Namath? And don't give me his passer rating. He has a Super Bowl ring earned by beating a highly favored Colts team, and those two have a combined total of...zero.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Sure, he' be No. 1. I said "two of the best", not "the two best".
I'd rank Pennington second behind Joe, but McCown would be behind a few others like Fitzpatrick, O'Brien and Testeverde - what a sad collection of QBs the Jets have had.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
That game was fixed
3C's
Footballguy
His passer rating was great! https://twitter.com/nypostsports/status/811239804004405252
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Michigan dropped from 11 to 19 in the 24x7 recruiting rankings today. That's a pretty big drop in 1 day. Maybe the kids think Harbaugh is leaving.
The Commish
Footballguy
This is the range where a good many of their classes usually are. I haven't paid close attention, but they only count the players that actually sign right?
ETA: Looking through their list, I don't see anyone glaring that is missing though. I think I saw a few portal target misses, but those aren't part of this are they?
ETA2: Looks like some of them aren't rating as high as they were earlier in the year. That might be part of it too....not sure.
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gump
Footballguy
Post-ESD completion '24 rankings... https://www.on3.com/db/rankings/industry-team/football/2024/
culdeus
Footballguy
That NIL number seems misleading. It looks like it is an average for kids that do get an deal
gump
Footballguy
Yea I'm not sure how complete the data is...but here's how the calculate it:
About On3 NIL Valuation, Roster Value and NIL
The On3 NIL Valuation, Post Value and the NIL 100 set the standard market value for student-athletes and their NIL deals.
culdeus
Footballguy
Ah so it's AI guessing at it. Even better.Yea I'm not sure how complete the data is...but here's how the calculate it:
About On3 NIL Valuation, Roster Value and NIL
The On3 NIL Valuation, Post Value and the NIL 100 set the standard market value for student-athletes and their NIL deals.www.on3.com
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
FSU board meeting tomorrow to discuss challenging ACC GOR. FSU really going to spend a billion dollars on legal fees, exit fees, and lost television money over the next 12 years? The B1G isn't even paying the west coast schools a full share. How much are they going to pay FSU to join for 12 years without any television rights? This should get fun though.
Capella
Footballguy
There will be an expensive settlement and fsu will be in the big 10 in a few years. The ACC probably doesn’t want to find out if the grant of rights is actually enforceable.
gump
Footballguy
They may have some outside financial help I think.
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