2024 Detroit Lions 6-1: Lions "Dismember the Titans." On to Green Bay (86 Viewers)

[jon_mx]

Zay Jones released by thr Jags. Lions need a 3rd receiver and he is solid.

6 months after being arrested for DV? Don’t see that happening.

Everything was dropped. Reading into the incident it sounds like it wasn't anything.

Shelia has a zero tolerance view on DV, so even the appearance of guilt would be a large enough of a red flag to stay away.

Did you talk to her about it before or after my post?

No. Shelia's views on domestic violence were widely publicized during the Cam Sutton fiasco. HTH.

Right, but on a guy running from the law. Not a guy where there was no appearance of guilt.

He is on the back part of his career and hasn't had a big season yet.

No appearance = the girl had scratches on her neck.

It ain't happening. It would not surprise me if Brad's entire draft card had about 20 names on it. Character is that important to what the Lions are building.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Zay snatched a chain off his baby mama, scratching her neck. Guess you could try to argue that’s fairly innocuous I suppose. Personally I think any kind of intimidation (breaking stuff, flipping furniture) is a form of abuse and no one should be subjected to it.

Zay has a history of legal troubles & (very) erratic behavior. Google if you’re curious. His brother (also an NFLer) also has a DV arrest. Not sure why anyone would stump for him.

 

[msudaisy26]

Zay Jones released by thr Jags. Lions need a 3rd receiver and he is solid.

6 months after being arrested for DV? Don’t see that happening.

Everything was dropped. Reading into the incident it sounds like it wasn't anything.

Shelia has a zero tolerance view on DV, so even the appearance of guilt would be a large enough of a red flag to stay away.

Did you talk to her about it before or after my post?

No. Shelia's views on domestic violence were widely publicized during the Cam Sutton fiasco. HTH.

Right, but on a guy running from the law. Not a guy where there was no appearance of guilt.

He is on the back part of his career and hasn't had a big season yet.

They are looking for a guy to come in and take Josh Reynolds spot. Not St. Brown's.

 

[jon_mx]

Zay Jones released by thr Jags. Lions need a 3rd receiver and he is solid.

6 months after being arrested for DV? Don’t see that happening.

Everything was dropped. Reading into the incident it sounds like it wasn't anything.

Shelia has a zero tolerance view on DV, so even the appearance of guilt would be a large enough of a red flag to stay away.

Did you talk to her about it before or after my post?

No. Shelia's views on domestic violence were widely publicized during the Cam Sutton fiasco. HTH.

Right, but on a guy running from the law. Not a guy where there was no appearance of guilt.

He is on the back part of his career and hasn't had a big season yet.

They are looking for a guy to come in and take Josh Reynolds spot. Not St. Brown's.

DPJ is a much better option and Kalif is fine as a 4th and on special teams. There are other guys I would rather give a roster spot to than Zay Jones, like Antoine Green who is still developing.

 

[jon_mx]

Apparently Terrion called the Lions asking for them to move up and take them. Apparently he loves the football culture and wants to work with Branch again.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Looks like there may have been a backup plan in case Arnold got sniped.

Were Lions trying to trade up for Darius Robinson?

The Lions were ready to trade up for Missouri DL Darius Robinson in the 1st round if Terrion Arnold was unavailable, per Albert Breer of SI

lionswire.usatoday.com

Robertson ended up with Arizona at 27.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Lions OTA & Minicamp schedule:

Rookie Minicamp: May 10-12

OTA Offseason Workouts: May 21-23, May 29-31, June 10-12

Mandatory Minicamp:
June 4-6

 

[Ilov80s]

Apparently Terrion called the Lions asking for them to move up and take them. Apparently he loves the football culture and wants to work with Branch again.

Where did you get this story?

 

[Ilov80s]

Zay Jones released by thr Jags. Lions need a 3rd receiver and he is solid.

6 months after being arrested for DV? Don’t see that happening.

Everything was dropped. Reading into the incident it sounds like it wasn't anything.

Shelia has a zero tolerance view on DV, so even the appearance of guilt would be a large enough of a red flag to stay away.

Did you talk to her about it before or after my post?

No. Shelia's views on domestic violence were widely publicized during the Cam Sutton fiasco. HTH.

Right, but on a guy running from the law. Not a guy where there was no appearance of guilt.

He is on the back part of his career and hasn't had a big season yet.

They are looking for a guy to come in and take Josh Reynolds spot. Not St. Brown's.

DPJ is a much better option and Kalif is fine as a 4th and on special teams. There are other guys I would rather give a roster spot to than Zay Jones, like Antoine Green who is still developing.

Still can’t rule out Chark coming back

 

[Ilov80s]

Looks like there may have been a backup plan in case Arnold got sniped.

Were Lions trying to trade up for Darius Robinson?

The Lions were ready to trade up for Missouri DL Darius Robinson in the 1st round if Terrion Arnold was unavailable, per Albert Breer of SI

lionswire.usatoday.com

Robertson ended up with Arizona at 27.

That’s huge, I prefer Arnold sooooo much more.

 

[jon_mx]

Apparently Terrion called the Lions asking for them to move up and take them. Apparently he loves the football culture and wants to work with Branch again.

Where did you get this story?

Starting around the 2:00 mark

- YouTube

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[Zeppelin]

Will Harris signed a one year contract.

Before anyone gets pissed off, he signed with the Saints.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Apparently Terrion called the Lions asking for them to move up and take them. Apparently he loves the football culture and wants to work with Branch again.

Where did you get this story?

Starting around the 2:00 mark

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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Actually it was something he said to them during his Top 30 visit, several weeks in advance of the draft.

Terrion Arnold had a feeling the Detroit Lions were going to trade up to get him in the first round of Thursday's NFL draft.

When he made his pre-draft visit to the Lions earlier this month, Arnold left defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn with a message.

"I walked in there, they said, 'Man, it’s all about fit, did you like the fit?'" Arnold told a small group of reporters early Friday morning. "I said, 'Coach, you know what you need to do, trade up.' Me and A.G., we walked in there. He said, 'Hopefully we get a chance to get you.' I said, 'You know what to do, trade up.' That’s what they did."

Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press

 

[SoBeDad]

Apparently Terrion called the Lions asking for them to move up and take them. Apparently he loves the football culture and wants to work with Branch again.

Do you or @BobbyLayne think a tradeup with Miami at 1.21 for Quinyon Mitchell (or Arnold) was offered. What DET gave DAL 1.29 and 3.9 (73) would've been sufficient per the trade chart. Quinton has slightly more athleticism, but Terrion is better vs the run and has faced tougher competition.

 

[jon_mx]

Apparently Terrion called the Lions asking for them to move up and take them. Apparently he loves the football culture and wants to work with Branch again.

Do you or @BobbyLayne think a tradeup with Miami at 1.21 for Quinyon Mitchell (or Arnold) was offered. What DET gave DAL 1.29 and 3.9 (73) would've been sufficient per the trade chart. Quinton has slightly more athleticism, but Terrion is better vs the run and has faced tougher competition.

Brad said he started calling teams in the late teens to trade up. Brad is not one to leave any stones unturned. Toughness and tackling are requirements for Lions defense, so I believe Brad when he said Rakeshaw and Arnold were his top two CB. Latu might have been their first target, but I have not known Brad to reveal players who got away. They always talk about the players they got and how excited they were to get them.

 

[SoBeDad]

Brad said he started calling teams in the late teens to trade up. Brad is not one to leave any stones unturned. Toughness and tackling are requirements for Lions defense, so I believe Brad when he said Rakeshaw and Arnold were his top two CB. Latu might have been their first target, but I have not known Brad to reveal players who got away. They always talk about the players they got and how excited they were to get them.

Grier said much the same, so we'll never know. But Grier values some athletic traits over "production". Many fans were initially disappointed in the Chop pick because of only 4 sacks. But he had top metrics in pass rush win rate and quick pressure rate. So fans are now more enthusiastic. If both Phillips and Chubb hadn't been injured, I think Grier accepts a tradedown offer like the one between DAL & DET.

 

[jon_mx]

A few good UDFA signings. Particularly good is Kingsley Eguakun a center from Florida. He was a 2-year starter before getting injured last year in preseason. He attempted to play mid-season, but could no longer go after four games. Super intelligent, good size 6'-3, 305 LBS. Gave him the max contract of $225k guarenteed. Off the radar because of his injury, but an excellent developmental guy.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Anyone know what’s going on with Branch?

Missed a couple games after getting a HAS v the Packers. I presume it was a minor surgery but haven’t been able to find out.

 

[jon_mx]

Anyone know what’s going on with Branch?

Missed a couple games after getting a HAS v the Packers. I presume it was a minor surgery but haven’t been able to find out.

Someone who claims to have talked to him said he had some cleanup done and thst he will be ready for camp.

 

[Zeppelin]

I still wouldn’t mind bringing Chark back for depth.

Chark signed with the Chargers.

 

[jon_mx]

I still wouldn’t mind bringing Chark back for depth.

Chark signed with the Chargers.

Smart move. He has a chance at a huge role there.

 

[Zeppelin]

I still wouldn’t mind bringing Chark back for depth.

Chark signed with the Chargers.

Smart move. He has a chance at a huge role there.

For a few games until he gets hurt.

 

[jon_mx]

Amon-Ra

His dad’s name was Brown. He sainted himself. #truestory

Welp let’s get to work on those UDFA signings. Should be an easy pitch. “Pretty good chance you’ll be on the 53-man bc we ain’t got jack here.”

Amon-Ra can ball and plays big. Such a deep WR group this year for him to fall into the 4th round. One of the steals of the draft IMO. His dad was two-time Mr. Universe. His brother plays for the Pack. I really like this pick for the Lions.

Going to the Wayback Machine....nice call!

 

[Moonlight]

Holmes being described as arrogant by anonymous NFL executive for the Martin and Manu picks.
Perhaps some jealousy here but also those picks have raised eyebrows with Lions faithful.
I’ve wondered about them because of the amount of draft capital. But if either hits they would support Holmes’ somewhat unconventional approach.

 

[jon_mx]

Holmes being described as arrogant by anonymous NFL executive for the Martin and Manu picks.
Perhaps some jealousy here but also those picks have raised eyebrows with Lions faithful.
I’ve wondered about them because of the amount of draft capital. But if either hits they would support Holmes’ somewhat unconventional approach.

Holmes made his critics look foolish last year. I love the Manu pick. The Lions had some excess draft capital next year and used it to get a guy they really like this year. Manu is an unbelievable specimen of size, strength and athleticism. Lions love his character. He is not nearly as green as people think he is. Brad has a clear plan, and I have been a buyer since the beginning.

 

[Zeppelin]

I can't say that I liked Holmes trading next years 3rd to draft Manu but I can't say I have a problem with it either. Holmes and Campbell had him in for a visit and got to see how well he moved among other things.

At this point, Holmes has crushed all 3 of his previous drafts so I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Still have 8 picks in 2025, compared to the 6 they had this year. Some of the later ones could be combined to move up, or maybe even trade a 2026 pick if there is a player in that range they really want.

I'm not sure whether there is a compensatory pick coming their way for Jonah Jackson being signed away.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I trust Brad’s evaluations and process. OL was a need and they obviously had some later guys they valued higher. He is going to miss some picks but even if he bombs on a few he has done a heck of a job. He addressed the concern with some major upside and trusts his staff to get the best out of them. It will be fun to see how it works out on those.

 

[Da Guru]

I still wouldn’t mind bringing Chark back for depth.

Chark signed with the Chargers.

1 year 5 million. For that price would have liked to see him return. Chark never did get the big long term deal he was looking for when he left.

Lions must have faith in Jones as #3. Williams really needs to step it up now.

 

[Da Guru]

I can't say that I liked Holmes trading next years 3rd to draft Manu but I can't say I have a problem with it either. Holmes and Campbell had him in for a visit and got to see how well he moved among other things.

At this point, Holmes has crushed all 3 of his previous drafts so I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Holmes has done a really good job so far.

Only question marks are still to see if Williams can develop into a reliable 75 catch WR instead of just being a reverse threat. This is his season.

Some unnamed GMs are calling Holmes arrogant for trading up and drafting guys like Martin and Manu when they were projected to be late rounders at best. Manu was not even on some draft boards.

Not sure why they would use the term arrogant. It is either brilliance or stupidity. That has yet to be determined.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The very last opinions I would go by are competing GMs. It's like asking the CEO of Honda to review the newest Toyota.

 

[Da Guru]

The very last opinions I would go by are competing GMs. It's like asking the CEO of Honda to review the newest Toyota.

Of course they are "unnamed"

 

[jon_mx]

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

Carlos Monarrez was smart not to put his name on this.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Amon-Ra

His dad’s name was Brown. He sainted himself. #truestory

Welp let’s get to work on those UDFA signings. Should be an easy pitch. “Pretty good chance you’ll be on the 53-man bc we ain’t got jack here.”

Amon-Ra can ball and plays big. Such a deep WR group this year for him to fall into the 4th round. One of the steals of the draft IMO. His dad was two-time Mr. Universe. His brother plays for the Pack. I really like this pick for the Lions.

Going to the Wayback Machine....nice call!

I really liked Amon-Ra as a prospect. I had similar enthusiasm for Gibbs at #12 last year.
This year my favorite prospect was Rome Odunze and unfortunately he went to the Bears. That guy can ball and gives 100% on every play. If Caleb Williams and JJ McCarthy pan out, this is going to be a very competitive division.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Holmes being described as arrogant by anonymous NFL executive for the Martin and Manu picks.
Perhaps some jealousy here but also those picks have raised eyebrows with Lions faithful.
I’ve wondered about them because of the amount of draft capital. But if either hits they would support Holmes’ somewhat unconventional approach.

Holmes seems to keenly understand how to evaluate talent + drive + team fit. I think he's the best in the business right now.

 

[TwinTurbo]

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

Carlos Monarrez was smart not to put his name on this.

Its difficult to understand how anyone could have graded the Sewell pick as a D even if that person knew very little about football. Also the Bengals passed on him for Ja'Marr Chase. Bengals and Lions both won in the 2021 draft.

 

[Ilov80s]

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

Carlos Monarrez was smart not to put his name on this.

Its difficult to understand how anyone could have graded the Sewell pick as a D even if that person knew very little about football. Also the Bengals passed on him for Ja'Marr Chase. Bengals and Lions both won in the 2021 draft.

Right, in what world is a premier OT not worth a top 10 pick?

 

[Zeppelin]

Jake Bates had 5 FGs yesterday, including a 60-yarder.

Edit to add: His 5th FG was a 42 yard walk off winner.

This guy's already a legend.

 

[Da Guru]

Jake Bates had 5 FGs yesterday, including a 60-yarder.

Edit to add: His 5th FG was a 42 yard walk off winner.

This guy's already a legend.

Bates is on our own backyard, at least kick the tires on him. Read Minny had interest..get him in the building.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

get him in the building.

He's already in the building.

But seriously, I'm not sure how much of a home advantage the Lions will have, it will probably come down to who pays him the most.

 

[BobbyLayne]

From Weeks 3-13, Lions DT Alim McNeill averaged 3.2 Total QB Pressures/Game (Knee Sprain Week 13). Extrapolated over a 17-Game Regular Season that is 54.4 QB Pressures which would have tied him with Leonard Williams for 11th Most among Interior DL (just ahead of Javon Hargave/DeForest Buckner).

Now Alim McNeill, entering Year 4, gets to play on an interior with DJ Reader, Year 3 Josh Paschal, Year 2 Brodric Martin, and Rookie Mekhi Wingo. 60+ Total QB Pressures is not out of the question.

Worth noting, McNeill averaged 3 QB Pressures/Game in the Playoffs as well after returning from Injury.

 

[Zeppelin]

From Weeks 3-13, Lions DT Alim McNeill averaged 3.2 Total QB Pressures/Game (Knee Sprain Week 13). Extrapolated over a 17-Game Regular Season that is 54.4 QB Pressures which would have tied him with Leonard Williams for 11th Most among Interior DL (just ahead of Javon Hargave/DeForest Buckner).

Now Alim McNeill, entering Year 4, gets to play on an interior with DJ Reader, Year 3 Josh Paschal, Year 2 Brodric Martin, and Rookie Mekhi Wingo. 60+ Total QB Pressures is not out of the question.

Worth noting, McNeill averaged 3 QB Pressures/Game in the Playoffs as well after returning from Injury.

I think new D-Line coach Terrell Williams is going to have a huge impact on the entire line.

 

[Da Guru]

get him in the building.

He's already in the building.

But seriously, I'm not sure how much of a home advantage the Lions will have, it will probably come down to who pays him the most.

It always boils down to $$$$. don`t blame him as this might be his only chance to get a little bonus cash.

 

[jon_mx]

Until the Panthers finish their season, nothing more the Lions can do, but his leg is legit.

With the new kickoff rules, having a good return guy is becoming important.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

With the new kickoff rules, having a good return guy is becoming important.

This should be interesting in camp and preseason. Maybe the Utah RB/Safety Vaki?

 

[jon_mx]

With the new kickoff rules, having a good return guy is becoming important.

This should be interesting in camp and preseason. Maybe the Utah RB/Safety Vaki?

Yeah, I kind of think that was a factor in that pick. Jamo would be great, but we don't have the depth at WR to even think about it....unless we are deep in the playoffs.

 

[BobbyLayne]

WR Isaiah Williams (IF he makes the 53-man) might another option for KR

Vaki will be a 4-phase STer day 1 but had virtually no experience as a returner (1 return in the last 2 CFB seasons) - might still be a good choice bc of his open field ability

 

[BobbyLayne]

Pretty stoked about this, was hoping they’d pull the trigger. ST ace & we need S depth.

@RapSheet

Free agent safety C. J. Moore is re-signing with the #Lions on a 1-year deal, source said. After serving a gambling suspension that took away his 2023, Moore is back in Detroit.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Dan Campbell won’t participate in the rookie minicamp that begins today in Allen Park due to a personal matter. He is expected to rejoin the team soon.

 

[Ilov80s]

Dan Campbell won’t participate in the rookie minicamp that begins today in Allen Park due to a personal matter. He is expected to rejoin the team soon.

I hope everything is ok. This obviously makes me nervous but best wishes to him and his family.