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That's actually a large part of the point behind FSTs - - to get the suspect to make an incriminating statement while the test is being performed. It's the reason why the cops always talk to the suspect during the test. The classic: "I can't even do that when I'm *sober*!" Boom - - confession. Just a little game they play.
After he counts to 30 with his foot in the air.....and he balance's like superman for no reason....The cop says...sir...I didn't ask you to do thatBoston: Would a drunk guy be able to do thatCop: Sir, you are a highly trained athlete....LOL
After he counts to 30 with his foot in the air.....and he balance's like superman for no reason....
Really! Do you have inside information? Or are you talking out of your backside?
After he counts to 30 with his foot in the air.....and he balance's like superman for no reason....
You don't do that unless you're high.
Me too.
David's no longer at tOSU, in case you missed that part of the video.
Assume it was meant to be "NAACP"
I've got news for youNOBODY passes a field sobriety test.It's impossible
I did once and I drank about 6 beers in about 4 hours
duhHe's not going to waste an hour trying to exculpate or even find the truth. He's trying to do one thing only, and that's to build his case.
Definitely something to be proud of.
I talked my way across the canada/US border once...after making up the entire story as to why we were there and why we were crossing at 2:30 in the morning
Definitely something to be proud of.
BS! Although you do get a number of self incriminating statements during FSTs, it is not their primary purpose.Disclaimer, I have not seen the video yet (I'm still at work and can't link in).However I see people complaining about procedure. What I'm reading it seems the cop performed the correct procedural steps.1) Reasonable cause to perfom a stop... Yep, suspect asleep at the wheel with the vehicle in drive.2) Perform verbals and FSTs... suspect unable to follow directions (heel toe), performs additional actions not part of the test. FSTs are actually not hard to pass, but you better pay very very close attention to the instructions as each deviation is a mark against you.----------- At that point the officer has reasonable cause to arrest the suspect for DUI. PERIOD.--------------3) process suspect and prep for additional testing (Breath analysis, urine sample, blood sample options).4) preserve chain of evidence, take statements (this is the point you have to allow suspect to contact a lawyer) ect.Until he is actually charged, the suspect doesn't require a lawyer. Everything prior to that is simple evidence gathering for a SUSPECTED DUI. However, if a suspect requests a lawyer any statement he makes in an interview is inadmissable as he was not provided a lawyer.I'll try to catch the video tonight and give my opinion on the cops actions. All of this is just based on what I am reading of the incident.My main sticking point so far is that DB mentioned he could not perform a test (walk the line) due to previous surgeries etc. That alone will likely invalidate that particular test. If he offered to perform breath analysis early enough (during FSTs), the cop should have given him the opportunity to do so IMHO.Remeber its a chain of activities- probable cause to stop (perform FSTs)- probable cause to give breath analysis (results of FSTs)All of my law enforcement experience was on a federal installation, so none of my knowledge may be accurate in a Florida case.
Um, why so quick to play the "BS!" card, chief? I said it was a "large part of the point," which is not the same as "their primary purpose." Not to doubt your law enforcement experience, but if you don't understand that FSTs are largely for show and mean whatever the officer wants them to mean, then . . . well . . . I guess I have to doubt your experience.
Wow, with this much speculative license you could be a reporter for ESPN. Yeah the cop sounded like he was talking to a kindergartner but he kept that calm tone the whole time and had to talk down to Boston because he could barely follow very simple instructions. . Boston was squirrely and pretty much uncooperative as well. I don't see any basis for calling this cop any names, escept maybe boring. Boston was acting like an idiot at times, refusing to do the tests and not doing what the officer said, making the cop repeat the instructions over and over. He could barely balance with one foot up and his "Superman" was pathetic. I'm surprised the cop didn't arrest him 5 minutes in. Cops have to make sure they word everything right and he's on video so he's covering all his bases. If Boston was more cooperative he might have gotten released instead of making a fuss and blundering through the tests. And then, the audacity of the white cop to actually ASSUME that the black suspect had graduated from college. How dare he!I don't know if Boston was effed up or not, the bloodtests will show it. He was definitely stubborn and passively uncooperative and argumentative. But the easiest way to not get charged is to shut up and do the tests as best you can. I really don't see what the cop did wrong other than not cuff him after the Superman pose. He was thorough and polite and called him sir or Mr Boston the whole time. The first two tests and the fact that his eyes were jittery are all the fuzz need to show probable cause. Oh, and he was asleep in his car in the street and didn't know where he was. But other than that, you're right the cops blew that one.
Read the article in the link of the first post. He was asleep at a red light turned green, repeatedly. He didn't know where he was, his story of where he was and where he was going doesn't match (according to TB homers on the board) and his eyes were jittery.scott46984 said:
It could have been a lot of things. The question I would think is what did the officer have reasonable grounds to suspect. He clearly say something to the effect of "I don't think it's alcohol". And this was before the testing, so obviously the officer had an idea that there were problems. We didn't see what happened before the video, so maybe there's some information we're not getting. But, the video looks nothing like a DUI arrest video. I've seen tons of DUI arrest videos and never seen one even close the Boston tape. It makes me think the officer knows something we don't. Because if David comes up clean, there's going to be a firestorm of DWB charges down there.Maurile Tremblay said:
Thanks - didn't see that. The fact that he was in a traffic lane at a stoplight certainly makes it more suspicious, as well as not knowing where he was. Still, there's certainly other possible explanations (exhaustion, medications, mental state, etc.) for such erratic behavior. We'll find out soon enough, and if he was under the influence of something illegal then he'll deserve what he gets, but I'm just a bit troubled by the joy many seem to take in the downfall of someone's life/career. Athlete/celebrity or not, it's sad to see see someone's life play out in front of the whole country as if it were entertainment.
Driving While Blacked-out? And is passed out in a car that's running in the middle of traffick truly considered driving?
Having seen you type, I believe you may be drunk or high.
to all the people saying Boston was being so compliant with the cop. Polite even. Give me a break. If I was ever in that situation the only things coming out of my mouth would be "no sir" or "yes sir." Boston displayed blatant irritation throughout the tests. He blacked out with the car in gear. I'd wash the cops car if he asked me."Speculative License"? Those were all direct quotes from the video. The only thing I speculated on is that the cop is a ####.mad sweeney said:
Do they normally do this? Sounds to me they really just don't like DB. I hate the race card, but...MBH_14 said:
So now it "could" be unrelated to drugs? But after he passed the breathalizer, and for the most part the FST, they still arrested him?
My only question on this is - do players have access after camp breaks? Boston is really pressing to make the team, maybe he went and did some working out on his own?
jesus.clearly he was on something.
