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Javon Walker wants out (3 Viewers)
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Sweet Love
IBL Representative
While he is not FredEx bad, he is not TO good. Son, needs to shut his trap and just play...unless he wants to go to a crummy team with no WR presence (honestly, could that be it?). Unfortunately, most of those teams are just plain bad.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Seems like Walker wants to have his cake (paid top dollar) and eat it too (be on winning team).
He can't have both.
He can't have both.
Mark Wimer
Moderator
Personally, I think Walker is suffering from post-traumatic shock syndrome, and it hasn't been adequately addressed. He did have his friend Darrent Williams bleed his life out on Walker's lap last New Years Eve. No wonder he'd be depressed and say something stupid in the week surrounding the anniversary of that event. Also no surprise he'd like to leave the scene where he is constantly reminded of the tragedy.
My .02.
My .02.
Banger
Footballguy
I don't think he cares. I think he cares about getting paid and being the man.
identikit
Footballguy
Very
People handle grief differently. IIRC, Marshall was also at the scene of the crime, and somewhat involved with the altercation.Looks to me like it could be a combination of an athlete's natural ego and a sensitive man's grief. 
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Two Words: Brandon Marshall.
Javon is irrelevant.
Javon is irrelevant.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Actually he is when healthy. He isn't exactly a rocket scientist though.
bcr8f
Footballguy
His friend died in his arms and Brandon Marshall was somewhat involved with the guys that shot him. He may just want to get away from the whole situation.Very
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
EdwardCat
Footballguy
FredEx? Who does this refer to?
Tex Goldstein
Footballguy
Yeah, losing a friend in such intimate circumstances is really tough. I'll never forget New Years Eve 1989 when one of my good high school friends blew his brains out with a handgun at a party (no note, no reason we could figure out, just did it alone in a bedroom at the house). It took me a good 15 years to be able to go out on New Year's eve - even now, almost 20 years later, I don't ever have a good time. Too much sadness around the date...Very
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
No NFL team will "pay" much in terms of trade value or "guaranteed $$" (assuming that Walker is cut) for Javon Walker a player who's future value is very unclear given his knee problems.
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Challenge Everything
Footballguy
I can see this being A reason. Also, he has not produced like he has before, has injuries that are probably not healing as quickly as he would like, and he sees someone his equal doing better than what he is doing. With that said, he should not be throwing his team under the bus like this.
identikit
Footballguy
Thanks for the info, Tommy..I wasn't aware of Marshall's close connection with the Nash tragedy....
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mr. furley
Footballguy
clearly Brett Favre was the problem when Walker left GB
DropKick
Footballguy
Few people could relate to that episode but what was his excuse when he left Green Bay? Seems like this guy has a pattern going that few of his tenure could rival.
Banger
Footballguy
Interesting and plausible theory but I never heard this talk before Marshall took over the offense or the Bronco's floated the idea of cutting his salary.
As much as I'd like to see the healthy trio of Walker/Marshall/Stokeley next season, if he's not going to be happy, keeping him is going to be a problem. If they can't get a decent upgrade at DL/LB or a S to replace Lynch, using him as trade bait to acquire additional picks in the draft might be best.
Maybe send him and the 12th pick to Dallas for their two #1s?
Maybe send him and the 12th pick to Dallas for their two #1s?
Somebody
Footballguy
My initial though mirrored what Mark mentioned, but I do agree with your point as well. He seems to be unhappy unless everything is exactly perfect, but what is the perfect situation? I don't doubt his memories of last New Year's Eve were fresh in his head when he made these comments, but didn't he leave GB in a similar fashion? I was under the impression (and I could be wrong since I am not a DEN local) that he was treated pretty well in DEN and was pretty popular in general. Just because Marshall has passed him on the depth chart doesn't seem like a valid reason to be unhappy in DEN.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Being in South Dakota, I would be happy to drive over to Denver and deliver him to Winter Park!! He may be #4 on the Pack, but he would no doubt be the #1 in Minnesota.
scott72
Footballguy
Two 1sts for damaged goods with an attitude problem? Please...they'll be lucky to get a 3rd like we did..
Phurfur
Footballguy
Walker is untradeable with his current contract and no way is he worth a #1. Jerry Jones is the last person on earth that would make the trade you mentioned but he may pick him up as a FA.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Read more what Walker said. He said Denver may not be best for him but best for Marshall. Attitude problem? He doesn't want to renogotiate and may need mixcrofracture surgery, 2 friends have died and Marshall may have instigated one of the deaths.I think he just wants to leave and start over elsewhere. He'll probably be cut and a FA while figuring out if he wants the surgery. Javon's a good guy but not the best at handling trouble. If it was me I may take the money while figuring out my future too. Look up micro fracture surgery. It isn't pretty.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Very interesting... GB wasn't a franchise headed in the right direction when TT took over, and now they're 13-3, tied a franchise record for the most wins.
Walker wanted out after his injury because he felt underpaid, but GB wasn't going to give him the money he felt he deserved- he had 2 years left on his deal and he just had an ACL injury. So off he goes to DEN, a franchise which at the time was fairly good
Fast forward a couple years later- Walker is having troubles with his knee dating back to the preseason and mini camps. He's again on a franchise headed in the right direction, but have gone down hill since Walker came there.
Clearly this guy is just a complete tool. He was my favorite player on our team his rookie season up until he turned into a selfish jerk and demanded out. Kind of nice to see him in the same situation now- unhappy. I don't get it...
He's the #1 WR and go to guy, but unhappy with how he's paid, and then he gets his money... now he's on a team that he clearly isn't the go-to guy as Cutler has more of a connection with Marshall. So now Walker wants someone to pick up his salary and make him a go-to WR?
GB doesn't want him- we don't need him. He'd be #4-5 on our team depending if he'd be better than Koren Robinson... and even if he is, that's way too much money to pay a $#4 WR.
This is just too funny. Here he goes throwing a fit again until he gets his way. He'll never be happy no matter where he goes. Drew Rosenhaus inflated his head during his first probowl the year before he got hurt. Walker signed Rosenhaus as his agent and the rest is history. Walker was a class act until his head was blown up almost to the point of Terrell Owens- another player I enjoy seeing unhappy.
Walker- you made your bed, now sleep in it.
Denver will be lucky to get a 4th round draft pick for him... I could see him going to somewhere like MIA, ATL, maybe even SF...
Walker wanted out after his injury because he felt underpaid, but GB wasn't going to give him the money he felt he deserved- he had 2 years left on his deal and he just had an ACL injury. So off he goes to DEN, a franchise which at the time was fairly good
Fast forward a couple years later- Walker is having troubles with his knee dating back to the preseason and mini camps. He's again on a franchise headed in the right direction, but have gone down hill since Walker came there.
Clearly this guy is just a complete tool. He was my favorite player on our team his rookie season up until he turned into a selfish jerk and demanded out. Kind of nice to see him in the same situation now- unhappy. I don't get it...
He's the #1 WR and go to guy, but unhappy with how he's paid, and then he gets his money... now he's on a team that he clearly isn't the go-to guy as Cutler has more of a connection with Marshall. So now Walker wants someone to pick up his salary and make him a go-to WR?
GB doesn't want him- we don't need him. He'd be #4-5 on our team depending if he'd be better than Koren Robinson... and even if he is, that's way too much money to pay a $#4 WR.
This is just too funny. Here he goes throwing a fit again until he gets his way. He'll never be happy no matter where he goes. Drew Rosenhaus inflated his head during his first probowl the year before he got hurt. Walker signed Rosenhaus as his agent and the rest is history. Walker was a class act until his head was blown up almost to the point of Terrell Owens- another player I enjoy seeing unhappy.
Walker- you made your bed, now sleep in it.
Denver will be lucky to get a 4th round draft pick for him... I could see him going to somewhere like MIA, ATL, maybe even SF...
bcr8f
Footballguy
That was the press. Brett made one statement but most people thought it was said over and over.Then Javon got hurt and things went downhill. If it hadn't happened he would have gotten his money but Brett was blamed. Javon isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and got a lot of bad advice.
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
I said this on the air today on AM950 The Fan in Denver and I'll repeat it here.
Brandon Marshall's involvement in the murder of Darrent Williams has been seriously overblown by certain media outlets. Yes, Brandon was there at the club, and there in the limo, but he did not cause this in any way shape or form.
Brandon Marshall's involvement in the murder of Darrent Williams has been seriously overblown by certain media outlets. Yes, Brandon was there at the club, and there in the limo, but he did not cause this in any way shape or form.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
2 1sts for a 1st and Javon Walker? Walker was in better condition when we traded him to DEN... ACL surgery is pretty routine with NFL surgeons. Now he needs microfracture surgery... the PT side of me will tell you that is always risky business, and could very well be a problem that plagues him for his career. Also, we did not get a 3rd, we got a 2nd round pick and traded it away to NE (Chad Jackson WR) for a later second (Greg Jennings WR) and a 3rd round pick (Jason Spitz G/C)Jennings should have been in the probowl this year, and Spitz is turning out to be a solid backup with potential to start here and there at G or C! At the time everyone (myself included) thought we got ripped off getting a late 2nd and mid 3rd round pick for Javon Walker... turned out fantastic
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Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Javon is about as sharp as a pair of childrens scissors.
H.K.
Footballguy
Golly, who saw that coming?
Phurfur
Footballguy
What Walker hasn't figured out is that you have to be the best receiver on the team to have the offense centered around you, not the highest paid.Golly, who saw that coming?
Master of Past and Present
Footballguy
How come whenever there is a troubled WR on the mareket or potentially on the market Atlanta gets mentioned? They've mad eit clear they don't like those type of guys. They didn't go for TO, they didn't go for Moss, why the heck would they go for Walker?
FUBAR
Footballguy
With Roddy White, Laurent Robinson and Jenkins, they don't really need a WR any more. Tennessee does and I suspect they'd be desperate enough to take the chance on the talented, but selfish JW.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Golly, who saw that coming?
Balco
Footballguy
Except they won't get a 5th round pick for him. The Broncos are going to cut him, as they should. Love people blaming the effect of Darrent Williams death on Walker's selfish actions. Walker was selfish in Green Bay, and he is selfish in Denver. Throw in damaged knees, and his career as a # 1, or even # 2 are gone.
Phurfur
Footballguy
I think we all saw this year that it wasn't the WRs but the QB that was the problem.
SSOG
Moderator
FavreCo is the new H.K.
Freddie Mitchell, the man with more nicknames than talent.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Javon has a two cent head and he gets doubly bad advice between his Pops and his agent. He is also a supreme talent and a hard worker. If he can recover, and he is still young so he just may, he could really impact a team. That he mentions the Packers shows maybe he is growing up and recognizing his mistake there. It also of course shows he cannot evaluate a teams need, unless he can play corner, safety or guard.
I resented his power play try back in Green Bay. I also did not hold the Packers blameless in the matter. Had they showed him just a little love and support when he got injured, had they publicly assured him he was in their plans and that they had cleared salary room for his negotiation much of this could have been avoided. There was plenty of blame to go around in that matter. I'd still like to see Walker do well.
I resented his power play try back in Green Bay. I also did not hold the Packers blameless in the matter. Had they showed him just a little love and support when he got injured, had they publicly assured him he was in their plans and that they had cleared salary room for his negotiation much of this could have been avoided. There was plenty of blame to go around in that matter. I'd still like to see Walker do well.
