WR Rashee Rice, KC (5 Viewers)

[Stinkin Ref]

(I wonder if the insurance is going to cover this considering the speeds/racing and leaving the scene).

As he was the only one authorized to drive either car, and as he was involved in a speed contest, and moreover one resulting in injury, the answer here is a resounding no.

Insurance companies aren’t rich by paying out for people’s stupidity - they have so many out clauses to avoid payment, and Rice provided them with any number to choose from.

From a financial standpoint he’s hosed.

I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about how insurance works and different plans and coverages....but I think we are kind of forgetting in this thread that there was another driver involved....the one driving Rice's car....and he has some responsibility here too that may factor in somehow someway....while the car was registered to Rice, that doesn't mean he is the only one that can drive/borrow it and some policies may have language around that and how things are covered....the other driver's insurance, etc. could come into play....I don't know, maybe I am wrong....I guess what I am saying is that there is another individual at fault here and I'm not sure how that will all factor in...

 

[Stinkin Ref]

The accident happened Saturday, 30 Mar, at approximately 6:20pm Central Standard Time
Rice's attorney issued a statement on Monday, 1 Apr, saying "Rashee is cooperating with local authorities and will take all necessary steps to address this situation responsibly"
Rashee posted on Instagram that he met with Dallas PD investigators on Wednesday, 3 Apr

What I am wondering is when, for the first time, Rice actually had to answer any questions from law enforcement? And were some of those questions...
- Why did you all flee?
- What was in the bag your pal was carrying?
- Were you sober at the time?
- Who was driving both cars?

I would imagine he didn't answer any of these but I'll take a shot
* we were scared
*none of your business....or....leftovers from lunch
*yes
*I was driving one...my friend X was driving the other

 

[ghostguy123]

(I wonder if the insurance is going to cover this considering the speeds/racing and leaving the scene).

As he was the only one authorized to drive either car, and as he was involved in a speed contest, and moreover one resulting in injury, the answer here is a resounding no.

Insurance companies aren’t rich by paying out for people’s stupidity - they have so many out clauses to avoid payment, and Rice provided them with any number to choose from.

From a financial standpoint he’s hosed.

I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about how insurance works and different plans and coverages....but I think we are kind of forgetting in this thread that there was another driver involved....the one driving Rice's car....and he has some responsibility here too that may factor in somehow someway....while the car was registered to Rice, that doesn't mean he is the only one that can drive/borrow it and some policies may have language around that and how things are covered....the other driver's insurance, etc. could come into play....I don't know, maybe I am wrong....I guess what I am saying is that there is another individual at fault here and I'm not sure how that will all factor in...

Won't change who they will be suing unless both guys are rich

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Won't change who they will be suing unless both guys are rich

Bingo. Very rarely is anyone in the entourage wealthy/successful.

He'll be in the most legal jeopardy, because he won't be able to pay his way out with expensive attorneys. So in that light, he's probably more hosed than Rice.

 

[Faust]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

 

[KellysHeroes]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

has any player in recent memory faced up to 8 felonies with this light atmosphere of "it'll just be a few games"

 

[TheWinz]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

has any player in recent memory faced up to 8 felonies with this light atmosphere of "it'll just be a few games"

Yeah, I hope he gets a very long suspension. I understand the immaturity of racing down the highway, but I cannot get past fleeing the scene. Once he did that, any talk of him feeling bad, taking full responsibility, or cooperating with law enforcement is complete *********. I hope the next headline is "Fried Rice".

 

[Max Power]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

has any player in recent memory faced up to 8 felonies with this light atmosphere of "it'll just be a few games"

This is where the NFL loses me on their personal conduct discipline policy. Different jurisdictions and DAs can often over or under charge an offense. In a hypothetical situation, if the same crime occurs in two different locations, I don't feel what the player was charged with should impact the NFLs suspension. That said, I know it does...

 

[Bazinga!]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

has any player in recent memory faced up to 8 felonies with this light atmosphere of "it'll just be a few games"

This is where the NFL loses me on their personal conduct discipline policy. Different jurisdictions and DAs can often over or under charge an offense. In a hypothetical situation, if the same crime occurs in two different locations, I don't feel what the player was charged with should impact the NFLs suspension. That said, I know it does...

Do you have an example where two players (one over one undercharged) committed a similar offense (from the NFL's perspective) and the one with the overcharge got a more severe NFL suspension?

 

[Max Power]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

has any player in recent memory faced up to 8 felonies with this light atmosphere of "it'll just be a few games"

This is where the NFL loses me on their personal conduct discipline policy. Different jurisdictions and DAs can often over or under charge an offense. In a hypothetical situation, if the same crime occurs in two different locations, I don't feel what the player was charged with should impact the NFLs suspension. That said, I know it does...

Do you have an example where two players (one over one undercharged) committed a similar offense (from the NFL's perspective) and the one with the overcharge got a more severe NFL suspension?

Nothing that is apples to apples.

If we take Jalen Carter's incident as an example. He wasn't in the NFL at the time so its not the same, but he was street racing, speeding, left the scene of an accident where someone died and only received a citation for his actions. Point being Carter and Rice did roughly the same thing. Carter's events had a more serious result, but a less severe legal outcome. How would the NFL have reacted? longer suspension... lesser? I don't know. My gripe is that if this is the "NFL's" personal conduct policy, the charges or lack of charges shouldn't be a factor, but they are.

Or look at Jordan Addison's speeding. He did 140 mph in a 55. He was lucky not be charged with a more serious offense. That action was deemed not suspension worthy. Is that just the norm for the NFL now?

 

[Soulfly3]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

has any player in recent memory faced up to 8 felonies with this light atmosphere of "it'll just be a few games"

.

Or look at Jordan Addison's speeding. He did 140 mph in a 55. He was lucky not be charged with a more serious offense. That action was deemed not suspension worthy. Is that just the norm for the NFL now?

Addison didnt flee, didn't cause bodily harm to others and didnt leave w (probably) drugs and guns w his crew.

Not remotely similar, just plain dumb.

 

[Bazinga!]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

has any player in recent memory faced up to 8 felonies with this light atmosphere of "it'll just be a few games"

This is where the NFL loses me on their personal conduct discipline policy. Different jurisdictions and DAs can often over or under charge an offense. In a hypothetical situation, if the same crime occurs in two different locations, I don't feel what the player was charged with should impact the NFLs suspension. That said, I know it does...

Do you have an example where two players (one over one undercharged) committed a similar offense (from the NFL's perspective) and the one with the overcharge got a more severe NFL suspension?

Nothing that is apples to apples.

If we take Jalen Carter's incident as an example. He wasn't in the NFL at the time so its not the same, but he was street racing, speeding, left the scene of an accident where someone died and only received a citation for his actions. Point being Carter and Rice did roughly the same thing. Carter's events had a more serious result, but a less severe legal outcome. How would the NFL have reacted? longer suspension... lesser? I don't know. My gripe is that if this is the "NFL's" personal conduct policy, the charges or lack of charges shouldn't be a factor, but they are.

Or look at Jordan Addison's speeding. He did 140 mph in a 55. He was lucky not be charged with a more serious offense. That action was deemed not suspension worthy. Is that just the norm for the NFL now?

So you don't have evidence that the NFL won't use discretion, you just assume they won't?

I don't see Addison and Rice as the same thing. Yes, Addison and Rice were both idiots, but wrecking, causing harm and running, are significantly more than just speeding.

 

[Max Power]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

has any player in recent memory faced up to 8 felonies with this light atmosphere of "it'll just be a few games"

.

Or look at Jordan Addison's speeding. He did 140 mph in a 55. He was lucky not be charged with a more serious offense. That action was deemed not suspension worthy. Is that just the norm for the NFL now?

Addison didnt flee, didn't cause bodily harm to others and didnt leave w (probably) drugs and guns w his crew.

Not remotely similar, just plain dumb.

Addison didn't flee, but 140 is reckless and by definition put others in harms way. Because the police didn't press charges doesn't mean his actions should be acceptable.

 

[Max Power]

Chiefs' Rashee Rice set to receive at least multi-game suspension for role in multi-vehicle crash, per report

has any player in recent memory faced up to 8 felonies with this light atmosphere of "it'll just be a few games"

This is where the NFL loses me on their personal conduct discipline policy. Different jurisdictions and DAs can often over or under charge an offense. In a hypothetical situation, if the same crime occurs in two different locations, I don't feel what the player was charged with should impact the NFLs suspension. That said, I know it does...

Do you have an example where two players (one over one undercharged) committed a similar offense (from the NFL's perspective) and the one with the overcharge got a more severe NFL suspension?

Nothing that is apples to apples.

If we take Jalen Carter's incident as an example. He wasn't in the NFL at the time so its not the same, but he was street racing, speeding, left the scene of an accident where someone died and only received a citation for his actions. Point being Carter and Rice did roughly the same thing. Carter's events had a more serious result, but a less severe legal outcome. How would the NFL have reacted? longer suspension... lesser? I don't know. My gripe is that if this is the "NFL's" personal conduct policy, the charges or lack of charges shouldn't be a factor, but they are.

Or look at Jordan Addison's speeding. He did 140 mph in a 55. He was lucky not be charged with a more serious offense. That action was deemed not suspension worthy. Is that just the norm for the NFL now?

So you don't have evidence that the NFL won't use discretion, you just assume they won't?

I don't see Addison and Rice as the same thing. Yes, Addison and Rice were both idiots, but wrecking, causing harm and running, are significantly more than just speeding.

I don't think the NFL is consistent.

The point of my post was in reply to the idea that 8 felonies = longer suspension.

If the DA reduces the charges should his suspension be reduced? It probably would be and that's why I'm critical of how the NFL handles punishment.

 

[Big Nate]

Speeding is different than racing/stunt driving and reckless driving. Then add in injuries due to racing (possibly felony) and then fleeing the scene.

Anyways....

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

My recent attempts to buy low (or even high) on Rice failed.

In a way I’m glad, as I’m not that enthusiastic about investing in a knucklehead.

 

[efactor]

In a way I’m glad, as I’m not that enthusiastic about investing in a knucklehead.

Kind of where I am, but I did get a good enough price to acquire him and will look to trade him during our rookie draft for the right deal. Hard to root for a player I dislike, which is why I never have Seahawks on my teams. Will draft them but always trade them before the season starts.

 

[Big Nate]

My recent attempts to buy low (or even high) on Rice failed.

In a way I’m glad, as I’m not that enthusiastic about investing in a knucklehead.

If I put my personal feelings aside (he's an idiot for putting peoples lives at risk) I think there is still value in trying to acquire Rice if these things end up true:

• His suspension is 6 games or less - If it is 8+ games that is more than half the season and KC needs to find an alternative.
• If KC doesn't spend significant draft capital on a WR (first round pick).

The one thing going for Rice is he played well down the stretch and his YAC started to show up. It is hard for rookies to make an immediate impact in Reid's system so Rice did finally get in there down the stretch as a key player.

Here is my question - What does Andy Reid do? Is this a no biggie in his mind (short suspension) or is Andy pissed and sends him on his way like he did Hunt? Rice is stlll young enough to bounce back from this but is facing serious legal and potential suspension issues.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Here is my question - What does Andy Reid do? Is this a no biggie in his mind (short suspension) or is Andy pissed and sends him on his way like he did Hunt?

Given his own family’s struggles with addiction, I can’t imagine it’s no big deal to Reid.

 

[Gally]

Here is my question - What does Andy Reid do? Is this a no biggie in his mind (short suspension) or is Andy pissed and sends him on his way like he did Hunt?

Given his own family’s struggles with addiction, I can’t imagine it’s no big deal to Reid.

What do addiction problems have to do with street racing a buddy?

 

[phandango]

My recent attempts to buy low (or even high) on Rice failed.

In a way I’m glad, as I’m not that enthusiastic about investing in a knucklehead.

I tried to buy him in FFPC for 2nd-rounders, all rejected, though some seemed to suggest it was close.

About two weeks ago, in a 14-team friendly IDP league (with salary contracts that makes things more confusing to explain here), I traded the 2.14 (so 28th rookie pick) and Khalil Shakir for Rice. No regrets at all on that one.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Here is my question - What does Andy Reid do? Is this a no biggie in his mind (short suspension) or is Andy pissed and sends him on his way like he did Hunt?

Given his own family’s struggles with addiction, I can’t imagine it’s no big deal to Reid.

What do addiction problems have to do with street racing a buddy?

Presumably alcohol, and or drugs were involved.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

My recent attempts to buy low (or even high) on Rice failed.

In a way I’m glad, as I’m not that enthusiastic about investing in a knucklehead.

I tried to buy him in FFPC for 2nd-rounders, all rejected, though some seemed to suggest it was close.

About two weeks ago, in a 14-team friendly IDP league (with salary contracts that makes things more confusing to explain here), I traded the 2.14 (so 28th rookie pick) and Khalil Shakir for Rice. No regrets at all on that one.

In a 16 team, IDP League, I offered a future first and an elite defensive end and was rejected.

 

[Doug B]

Welp — Chiefs took a WR in the 1st round (Xavier Worthy).

 

[houston]

Welp — Chiefs took a WR in the 1st round (Xavier Worthy).

And traded up to do so

 

[joey]

Welp — Chiefs took a WR in the 1st round (Xavier Worthy).

The new 4th ranked rookie pick (in non-TE-premium, non-SF leagues).

 

[Catbird]

If you don't count Brian Thomas, Jr?

 

[joey]

If you don't count Brian Thomas, Jr?

I guess I was thinking that folks will rank the WR drafted by KC over the one drafted by JAX. I think that's be mostly correct if I were to guess future rookie draft ADP draft.

 

[Penguin]

If you don't count Brian Thomas, Jr?

I guess I was thinking that folks will rank the WR drafted by KC over the one drafted by JAX. I think that's be mostly correct if I were to guess future rookie draft ADP draft.

R.Rice isn't going to get the death sentence. He and Worthy are different WR's and the Chiefs desperately needed to add some one. Toney = turd, Kelce is closing in on 34, the others are just roster fodder. This doesn't spell the end of R.Rice, that's crazy talk.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If you don't count Brian Thomas, Jr?

I guess I was thinking that folks will rank the WR drafted by KC over the one drafted by JAX. I think that's be mostly correct if I were to guess future rookie draft ADP draft.

R.Rice isn't going to get the death sentence. He and Worthy are different WR's and the Chiefs desperately needed to add some one. Toney = turd, Kelce is closing in on 34, the others are just roster fodder. This doesn't spell the end of R.Rice, that's crazy talk.

No, but it could make him a cheaper get now on the perception that it does.

Also, it could be indicative that the chiefs believe he’s in for a lengthy suspension. e.g. 8+ games.

And if that’s the case, Rice could be much lower on the receiver priority when he returns if Worthy, Brown & Mahomes are clicking.

It’s almost certainly not good news for his target share in the best of cases.

 

[Penguin]

Well, M.Brown hasn't exactly been prolific, dude has averaged 6.75 PPG. in standard leagues over the past 2 seasons.

 

[joey]

I’m just saying that, in the average rookie draft, I wouldn’t be surprised if Worthy is now WR4 in the rankings.

 

[metoo]

I can see that, I'm glad I don't have to make that decision.

 

[Buckna]

Worthy is more DJax or Devonta Smith than Tyreek. Its not without fantasy value, but its more a complimentary piece than a direct threat to replace Rice IMO.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Half Season 8+ games

Chiefs Reportedly Expecting 'At Least' Half Season Suspension For Rashee Rice

Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are reportedly expecting to be without Rashee Rice for "at least" half of the 2024 NFL season ... due to his role in that wild March 30 car crash in Dallas.

www.tmz.com

-Guess you don't need to know what the courts do to him, Goodell already has a good idea what he wants to do

Worthy the rookie is gonna get a lather going quick in this offense.
Hollywood Brown is slated to catch a lot of balls early in the season

 

[Big Nate]

Half Season 8+ games


-Guess you don't need to know what the courts do to him, Goodell already has a good idea what he wants to do

Yep, it was all caught on tape - even them fleeing the scene. NFL can hand out any punishment they want. NFL didn't like this one bit it seems and I don't blame them.

 

[zeeshan2]

[KCTV5] - Court order in Chiefs’ Rashee Rice case focuses on credit cards, phone records, guns, cars, blood & urine. In addition to the 2 lawsuits seeking over $1 Million, Rice is charged with aggravated assault, collision involving serious bodily injury and 6 counts of collision involving injury.

 

[Big Nate]

[KCTV5] - Court order in Chiefs’ Rashee Rice case focuses on credit cards, phone records, guns, cars, blood & urine. In addition to the 2 lawsuits seeking over $1 Million, Rice is charged with aggravated assault, collision involving serious bodily injury and 6 counts of collision involving injury.

That does not sound good at all. The more you read that article the worse it gets.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

[KCTV5] - Court order in Chiefs’ Rashee Rice case focuses on credit cards, phone records, guns, cars, blood & urine. In addition to the 2 lawsuits seeking over $1 Million, Rice is charged with aggravated assault, collision involving serious bodily injury and 6 counts of collision involving injury.

Kinda glad my trade offers were declined. Yikes.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Half Season 8+ games

That’s been my prediction since day 1

At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if he got a year.

If he actually gets jail time, all bets are off. There’s a lot of “well that’s a bad look” in these details. And the more details one reads, the worse the look.

That all said, the outcome never seems to be as bad as it would be if say, you or I did any of these things. Money, power and the wheels of justice grind in strange ways when combined, and NFL teams/owners have a lot of political influence.

We’ll see what happens, but it’s a bad bad look. I still think the NFL may want to make an example, because if they don’t and something like this happens again, but with worse injuries or death, they would seem to face greater liability / scrutiny.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

[KCTV5] - Court order in Chiefs’ Rashee Rice case focuses on credit cards, phone records, guns, cars, blood & urine. In addition to the 2 lawsuits seeking over $1 Million, Rice is charged with aggravated assault, collision involving serious bodily injury and 6 counts of collision involving injury.

That does not sound good at all. The more you read that article the worse it gets.

The Chiefs already knew all this last week, internal investigation along with the NFL-Goodell

-I'm guessing the Chiefs make sure that Rice tells them every little detail, as much as possible because if he doesn't they will simply part ways, ,he must come clean.
They already had those meetings and certainly shared their findings with Goodell who likely told them about the length of suspension he is aiming for

The Chiefs said last Friday they were expecting a lengthy suspension and that's because they knew from their own internal findings and Goodell's likely ruling

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Chiefs said last Friday they were expecting a lengthy suspension and that's because they knew from their own internal findings and Goodell's likely ruling

Feels like we knew this based on their 1st round draft pick.

Had Rice not been involved in this, I doubt they take a WR in the 1st after bringing in Hollywood in FA.

 

[Big Nate]

[KCTV5] - Court order in Chiefs’ Rashee Rice case focuses on credit cards, phone records, guns, cars, blood & urine. In addition to the 2 lawsuits seeking over $1 Million, Rice is charged with aggravated assault, collision involving serious bodily injury and 6 counts of collision involving injury.

That does not sound good at all. The more you read that article the worse it gets.

The Chiefs already knew all this last week, internal investigation along with the NFL-Goodell

-I'm guessing the Chiefs make sure that Rice tells them every little detail, as much as possible because if he doesn't they will simply part ways, ,he must come clean.
They already had those meetings and certainly shared their findings with Goodell who likely told them about the length of suspension he is aiming for

The Chiefs said last Friday they were expecting a lengthy suspension and that's because they knew from their own internal findings and Goodell's likely ruling

Thanks for sharing this as I haven't been following what has gone on the last few weeks. Not surprising with their moving up in the draft to get Worthy. Also Hollywood Brown gets an immediate boost.

 

[Big Nate]

Half Season 8+ games

That’s been my prediction since day 1

At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if he got a year.

If he actually gets jail time, all bets are off.

Wouldn't that be something if he did get jail time. Would be an absolute disaster for his career.

Really curious what they dig up from his credit card files, phone and whatever else they seized.

 

[Birdie048]

Half Season 8+ games

That’s been my prediction since day 1

At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if he got a year.

If he actually gets jail time, all bets are off.

Wouldn't that be something if he did get jail time. Would be an absolute disaster for his career.

Really curious what they dig up from his credit card files, phone and whatever else they seized.

Most likely (from my uneducated guess) is the amount of alcohol purchased for them all.
Receipts and transactions for the drinks will all fall on him as part of the liability and consequences.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Half Season 8+ games

That’s been my prediction since day 1

At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if he got a year.

If he actually gets jail time, all bets are off.

Wouldn't that be something if he did get jail time. Would be an absolute disaster for his career.

Really curious what they dig up from his credit card files, phone and whatever else they seized.

It would be extraordinary. It almost never happens. Ruggs, because he killed someone (and her dog), and his career is pretty much over.

In this case I sort of doubt it would be jailtime, but ya never know what they found, or how it will be pursued by the DA. Given the $ and profile of this, I'm expecting probation + community service + fines, and he's going to get sued into oblivion by the rental company and injured parties. His financial career is hosed for a while, that's for sure.

But I very much doubt he goes to jail. Based on what we know, he absolutely should. But I don't think he will.

 

[Soulfly3]

#Chiefs WR Rashee Rice is under investigation for allegedly hitting a photographer at a club in Dallas on Monday night, per @wfaa.

 

[Soulfly3]

Condolences to anyone who "bought low"

 

[Ilov80s]

Yikes, you would think he would really want to lay low after the car incident.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Kansas City Chiefs receiver Rashee Rice under investigation for alleged nightclub assault, Dallas police say

DALLAS — Kansas City Chiefs receiver Rashee Rice is under investigation for allegedly hitting a photographer at a club in Dallas early Monday, police sources say.

Dallas police sources say officers are interviewing witnesses about the incident that allegedly happened Monday at 609 N. Harwood Street, which is the address of Lit Kitchen.