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That is hideous.

Except that Mason's YPC for the year was 4.3. By your measure, Leveon Bell was a plodder or worse in almost half of his games (7 under 4).

Calvin

OBJ or Julio for me, even in 1.5 PPR for TE. Gronk would be a fine 1.1 though. Andrew Luck? Yuck as the 1.1

It seems to me that this may be more of a discussion of individual players Leveon Bell and Alshon Jeffery than Young Vet Super Stud vs 1.1. Few, if any, would trade Julio Jones or Dez Bryant straight up for the 1.1 or Mike Evans or AJ Green for the 1.4.

Thats the picture you painted by observing that there have been 72 1st rounders in 6 years? That there are fewer than 72 top players today? That is the data you used, and that is the data to which I responded.

Must have missed the argument that White's WORST case is Julio, Fitz and Hopkins.

You aptly observe that there have been 72 1st rounders since 2009 (6 times 12). You are also correct that there are nowhere close to 72 top level players today (lets say 36). However, these two facts have little to no bearing on the argument you are trying to make. Taking this to the...

I thought he was being sarcastic. I figured old depth WR would run cheap in most leagues. Does anyone actually want Greg Jennings? :)

You make good points. Players are not like stocks (in the context you describe) and values differ from league to league, owner to owner. If I truly believed that Gurley were a generational talent, I would trade practically any player for him TODAY in a start 2+ RB league. Going back to 2007...

Clearly not a need pick, so you have to assume Dorsett was the BPA on the Colts' board.

True. I rarely keep players beyond 30 so the extra year and trade value matters for me.

The fact that the NFL (at least St. Louis and probably others) thought enough of Gurley to have him picked 10th overall (despite the ACL and the recent trend of no RBs in the first round) means more to me than where he landed. In any case, St. Louis is a fine landing spot imo.

But it is.

Interesting, the trade seemed reasonable to me. These vastly differing opinions make this game fun .

I think your example fails to drive your point home. Steve Smith, after doing it once in NYC, was not heralded as the next big thing, particularly in fantasy and dynasty circles. He just got done with a fantastic year in 2009, and no one was talking about him as a top 5 WR, much less the #1...

Oh right. You're the one guy that calls him RG. :)

Why is it RG3?

Do you have to be? I'd take the 1.10 over Tate/Bennett.

The original question was whether it would be crazy to rank Gurley as a Top 5 RB as soon as Friday (i.e., presumably after he is drafted). Ranking Gurley and/or Gordon in the Top 5 at that point would not be negligent as you say (imo). The RB landscape is such a mess that "Top 5" doesn't mean...