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2014 Kick and Punt Returner thread (1 Viewer)
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GregR
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There hasn't been any questions about Washington that I'm aware of. Not sure if you meant to ask about McCluster. he's the one who was injured? McCluster looks like he's going to play, haven't seen anything to suggest he won't be handling punts today though there's always a little risk if they want to take it easy on him after the injury.
Kool-Aid Larry
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chinawildman
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What are the chances that once OBJr is active that he is the PR and KR for the giants?
GregR
Footballguy
Fair but not a given. Maybe a little better chance he takes over punts than kickoffs. Demps was one of the best kickoff returners in the league last year. Though right now both returners are rating middle of the pack.
Dismattle
Footballguy
Is Chung still playing most every defensive snap? I get the return love, but a goose egg for returns is painful risk if theres no chance of say five Solo(s)
I use to think highly of Chung until his injury's started, but I re-dropped him after the 2.0 performance last week..
chinawildman
Footballguy
I think as the weather gets colder kickoffs will travel shorter distances leading to more returns. When the rule initially changed I dug into this a bit and there is evidence to support this.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
Chung - think about 60%, but check idp forum
Demps - took starting job from s brown
D thompson - cut
Demps - took starting job from s brown
D thompson - cut
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I wonder if guys were running it out more, but after reviewing 2013 have been accepting more tb?
Not sure if it's backed up by football stats but due to physics balls travel shorter distances in the cold weather. This is definitely backed up by baseball stats.
Is Demps stll the primary KR there? Projections here don't have him listed this week. (have Randle and Parsons)
cheif
Footballguy
Have not had a chance to update depth chart table (will be prior to Sunday) but did note no changes for the TNF teams (as much as that means). However, as many have noted, he was promoted this week at FS. This could impact the returns.
Parker or Randle could be the options if he is pulled from KOR, reading the depth charts.
Clear as mud.
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GregR
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Full set of updates in the Week 5 article that I'm working on finishing up now. But in advance of that, a couple of key updates....
Jalen Saunders was cut by the Jets. They used Walt Powell as the punt returner, though they then signed Owusu and TJ Graham. So there are some bodies there which could result in a shakeup at returner.
TY Hilton handled some kickoff returns for the Colts though Whalen handled some too. Hilton started out side by side with Whalen, and also had one it looked like he was the only returner back there. They were all touchbacks, but with him being fantasy significant on offense it's worth mentioning.
The Dolphins signed LaMichael James. Combined with Jarvis Landry fumbling twice on punts, there could be a shakeup coming there. Landry is tied for first in total return yards in the NFL with 373. 51 of those yards are punt returns, so it could impact a top producing returner.
Joe McKnight is out for the season with an Achilles tendon rupture.
Jalen Saunders was cut by the Jets. They used Walt Powell as the punt returner, though they then signed Owusu and TJ Graham. So there are some bodies there which could result in a shakeup at returner.
TY Hilton handled some kickoff returns for the Colts though Whalen handled some too. Hilton started out side by side with Whalen, and also had one it looked like he was the only returner back there. They were all touchbacks, but with him being fantasy significant on offense it's worth mentioning.
The Dolphins signed LaMichael James. Combined with Jarvis Landry fumbling twice on punts, there could be a shakeup coming there. Landry is tied for first in total return yards in the NFL with 373. 51 of those yards are punt returns, so it could impact a top producing returner.
Joe McKnight is out for the season with an Achilles tendon rupture.
GregR
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Tania Ganguli @taniaganguli · 5h 4 hours ago
O'Brien says he doesn't know who will return kicks & punts. Says nothing changed in game to cause them to move away from Johnson. #Texans
O'Brien says he doesn't know who will return kicks & punts. Says nothing changed in game to cause them to move away from Johnson. #Texans
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
local sports radio says T Benjamin out as PR for Browns and Jordan Poyer in.
So at this point in the season you could probably use this list to determine who to stream as a KR: http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/returning/position/defense
Might want to use attempts rather than yards. Also might want to consider what stadium the game is in. Might want to shy away from kick returners playing in Denver or in a dome.
Might want to use attempts rather than yards. Also might want to consider what stadium the game is in. Might want to shy away from kick returners playing in Denver or in a dome.
GregR
Footballguy
Thanks for the heads up, that's definitely my bad and will get it in the article. With the injuries to San Diego's returners I was interested in what they were doing about it and glossed right over Carrie taking over for Murray.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
amendola's returning kicks tonight
GregR
Footballguy
The Seahawks listed Doug Baldwin and Bryan Walters behind Percy Harvin on their depth chart as kickoff returners. With Harvin traded to the Jets, I imagine Baldwin might get first crack but it's really not a sure thing. The Seahawks have used several of their receivers as returners before... unless someone puts his stamp on the job we could see players being tried out over the next few weeks.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Does HARVIN immediately get the kr job in NYJ?
GregR
Footballguy
Hard to say. Walt Powell has looked pretty good in his brief stint as the returner including a 60 yard return last night. I could see a coach thinking: trot Harvin out on returns as a way of contributing when he's still learning the offense. Or might they think, let's have him focus on learning the offense and not distract him with returns? Edit to add: I could see Coach Ryan being someone who wants to get his glitzy new toy out there immediately, so maybe the former.
I wouldn't want to count on either Powell or Harvin as individual returners next week, barring hearing something definitive from the team.
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GregR
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Heads up for waiver claims. The Bucs cut Solomon Patton, who has been one of the top guys in the league this season in terms of total return yardage, and signed Trindon Holliday. For leagues with a starting lineup spot that only scores return yards, Holliday could end up being a nice pickup. He probably won't give you any other type of fantasy points though. He also has some ball security issues which give him some risk.
GregR
Footballguy
Word is that Harvin will be the kick returner and possibly return punts as well in his debut. He will have a minimal role on offense.
Also Jeff Demps was picked up by the Colts. Might want to watch list him.
Dwayne Harris might be one of the top KR streaming options this week. Washington is up there in return yards allowed but they will be playing in Dallas which could equate to more touchbacks.
If Amendola sticks at KR and in the offense he could be a top add for next week. Bad news for Pat Chung owners. T.J. Carrie and Danieal Manning are still the KR's for their respective teams.
Also Jeff Demps was picked up by the Colts. Might want to watch list him.
Dwayne Harris might be one of the top KR streaming options this week. Washington is up there in return yards allowed but they will be playing in Dallas which could equate to more touchbacks.
If Amendola sticks at KR and in the offense he could be a top add for next week. Bad news for Pat Chung owners. T.J. Carrie and Danieal Manning are still the KR's for their respective teams.
GregR
Footballguy
When he got promoted to starting safety, they started alternating he and Preston Parker, indicating they'd decide who to use each kick based on the game (how tired they are at that moment, etc).
But then more recently they promoted Michael Cox from the practice squad and have been using him as the kickoff returner, though it could really be any of them any game. Beckham could even seen some returns there though he seems to be handling punts mostly.
GregR
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GregR
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Haven't seen any comments to tell on if it'll be Bersin or not. Before last week Reaves and Cotchery were mentioned as possibilities too.
The Buccaneers will have a new kickoff and punt returner.
According to Rand Getlin of Yahoo! Sports, the Bucs have waived Trindon Holliday with an “injured” designation. Holliday has a hamstring injury.
If Holliday clears waivers, he will take a spot on the Buccaneers’ injured reserve list.
The 28-year-old Holliday returned two kickoffs and two punts in Tampa Bay’s loss to Minnesota on Sunday. He signed with the Buccaneers just 10 days ago. Holliday had replaced rookie Solomon Patton, who was waived after six games as the Bucs’ returner. Patton is now on the Cardinals’ practice squad.
A potential replacement for Holliday could be coming from the practice squad. Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun reports the Buccaneers have called up wide receiver Marcus Thigpen, who returned kickoffs and punts for Miami in 2012 and 2013. Like Holliday, the 28-year-old Thigpen signed with the Buccaneers on Oct. 21.
And now, Thigpen might get a chance to stabilize a problem spot for 1-6 Tampa Bay.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/31/reports-bucs-waive-trindon-holliday-call-up-marcus-thigpen/
GregR
Footballguy
The Chargers used Chris Davis on kickoff returns. He was a guy in preseason I really thought could land the starting job but seemed like he was never really a serious consideration for them. Looking forward to seeing him get a chance. Had 4 returns with a 29 yard average, so a good first outing.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/11/07/5299340/carolina-panthers-philly-brown.html#.VF40_sJ0yAg
The first thing Philly Brown plans to do when he gets to Philadelphia on Sunday is head out for a Philly cheesesteak.
Naturally.
The Carolina Panthers’ rookie returner says there’s nothing that could’ve kept him out of Monday night’s game against his hometown Eagles ... except the NFL’s concussion protocol.
Brown, who grew up in west Philly, missed the past two games with post-concussion symptoms after he was kneed in the back of the head returning a punt Oct. 19 at Green Bay.
Brown said a doctor cleared him Thursday to play against the Eagles. And although Panthers coach Ron Rivera has been noncommittal about Brown’s role in the game, Brenton Bersin, who handled the return duties in Brown’s absence, indicated Brown would reclaim the job.
But before the game, there is the matter of cheesesteaks.
While other players might hit the oft-publicized Pat’s or Geno’s, which Brown dismissed as “tourist traps,” he plans to take Bersin to Max’s for a genuine Philly cheesesteak.
What part of town is Max’s in?
“The bad part,” Brown said.
Brown went by his given name of Corey until his senior year at Cardinal O’Hara when then-Ohio State coach Jim Tressel visited Brown on a recruiting trip. Tressel told Brown the Buckeyes already had a Corey Brown on the team – a defensive back from Pennsylvania – and he would need a nickname.
“That’s the one he came up with,” Brown said. “The obvious one.”
It stuck, at least in Ohio State circles. Back home, Brown is still Corey to friends and family – about 100 of whom will be at Lincoln Financial Field for Monday night’s game. Philly fans have a reputation for being rough, showing no mercy to visiting teams, coaches and guys in Santa suits.
Brown is not concerned.
“All I’m worried about is us getting a victory,” he said. “I’m not worried about people in the stands or how they act or whatever.”
Brown was in middle school in 2005 when the Eagles lost to New England in the Super Bowl. He’d go to games at the “Linc” and still has a Brian Westbrook jersey.
He has a little extra motivation in facing the Eagles, who were one of the teams that showed interest in him before the draft but didn’t take him. Thirty-one other teams also passed on Brown, whose size (5-foot-11, 180 pounds) and 40-yard dash time at the combine (4.51 seconds) might have scared off scouts.
The Panthers signed Brown as an undrafted free agent, and he won the return jobs out of training camp despite some fumbling problems.
He’s had an eventful start to his career.
With veteran Jerricho Cotchery sidelined in a Week 3 loss to Pittsburgh, Brown made his first start at receiver and caught seven passes for 66 yards.
But in the fourth quarter, Brown fumbled Brad Wing’s punt at the Panthers’ 12-yard, then lost it again after re-gathering it. Pittsburgh’s Robert Golden recovered it in the end zone for a touchdown that put the Steelers up 30-13.
Two weeks later against Chicago, Brown scored on an unusual play during a first-quarter punt. A Bears player interfered with Brown before he fielded the punt. When the ball squirted out from the pile, Brown picked it up and raced 79 yards for a touchdown.
Brown says his issue hasn’t been fielding punts, but he needs to take better care of the ball in traffic. But he doesn’t plan to change his approach.
“I’m an aggressive player, so I’m not going to change the way I play,” Brown said. “Playmakers are supposed to make plays. So I’ll make the smart play, but I’m going to make the aggressive play at the same time.”
Bersin said Brown’s no-fear attitude makes him well suited for his return role.
“That’s how you want your players to play – take chances, don’t be afraid to make a play, don’t play scared,” Bersin said. “That weird touchdown he had (against Chicago) is because he took a chance. If he fair-caught it, I don’t think that play would’ve happened.”
The Panthers have a couple of players who are arguably more sure-handed than Brown, including Bersin.
But Rivera likes Brown’s big-play potential.
“The one thing that Philly does is he brings you that home run ability,” Rivera said.
Hitting a home run against the Eagles would make for a memorable homecoming. But Brown, who has a dry sense of humor, said he’s just glad to be back on the field and out of the concussion protocol.
“This is better than sitting in my house all day in a dark room watching nothing,” he said. “So anything other than that is a plus.”
If Brown is back, he probably is on most WW. Might be a nice stream this week.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/11/07/5299340/carolina-panthers-philly-brown.html#.VF40_sJ0yAg#storylink=cpy
The first thing Philly Brown plans to do when he gets to Philadelphia on Sunday is head out for a Philly cheesesteak.
Naturally.
The Carolina Panthers’ rookie returner says there’s nothing that could’ve kept him out of Monday night’s game against his hometown Eagles ... except the NFL’s concussion protocol.
Brown, who grew up in west Philly, missed the past two games with post-concussion symptoms after he was kneed in the back of the head returning a punt Oct. 19 at Green Bay.
Brown said a doctor cleared him Thursday to play against the Eagles. And although Panthers coach Ron Rivera has been noncommittal about Brown’s role in the game, Brenton Bersin, who handled the return duties in Brown’s absence, indicated Brown would reclaim the job.
But before the game, there is the matter of cheesesteaks.
While other players might hit the oft-publicized Pat’s or Geno’s, which Brown dismissed as “tourist traps,” he plans to take Bersin to Max’s for a genuine Philly cheesesteak.
What part of town is Max’s in?
“The bad part,” Brown said.
Brown went by his given name of Corey until his senior year at Cardinal O’Hara when then-Ohio State coach Jim Tressel visited Brown on a recruiting trip. Tressel told Brown the Buckeyes already had a Corey Brown on the team – a defensive back from Pennsylvania – and he would need a nickname.
“That’s the one he came up with,” Brown said. “The obvious one.”
It stuck, at least in Ohio State circles. Back home, Brown is still Corey to friends and family – about 100 of whom will be at Lincoln Financial Field for Monday night’s game. Philly fans have a reputation for being rough, showing no mercy to visiting teams, coaches and guys in Santa suits.
Brown is not concerned.
“All I’m worried about is us getting a victory,” he said. “I’m not worried about people in the stands or how they act or whatever.”
Brown was in middle school in 2005 when the Eagles lost to New England in the Super Bowl. He’d go to games at the “Linc” and still has a Brian Westbrook jersey.
He has a little extra motivation in facing the Eagles, who were one of the teams that showed interest in him before the draft but didn’t take him. Thirty-one other teams also passed on Brown, whose size (5-foot-11, 180 pounds) and 40-yard dash time at the combine (4.51 seconds) might have scared off scouts.
The Panthers signed Brown as an undrafted free agent, and he won the return jobs out of training camp despite some fumbling problems.
He’s had an eventful start to his career.
With veteran Jerricho Cotchery sidelined in a Week 3 loss to Pittsburgh, Brown made his first start at receiver and caught seven passes for 66 yards.
But in the fourth quarter, Brown fumbled Brad Wing’s punt at the Panthers’ 12-yard, then lost it again after re-gathering it. Pittsburgh’s Robert Golden recovered it in the end zone for a touchdown that put the Steelers up 30-13.
Two weeks later against Chicago, Brown scored on an unusual play during a first-quarter punt. A Bears player interfered with Brown before he fielded the punt. When the ball squirted out from the pile, Brown picked it up and raced 79 yards for a touchdown.
Brown says his issue hasn’t been fielding punts, but he needs to take better care of the ball in traffic. But he doesn’t plan to change his approach.
“I’m an aggressive player, so I’m not going to change the way I play,” Brown said. “Playmakers are supposed to make plays. So I’ll make the smart play, but I’m going to make the aggressive play at the same time.”
Bersin said Brown’s no-fear attitude makes him well suited for his return role.
“That’s how you want your players to play – take chances, don’t be afraid to make a play, don’t play scared,” Bersin said. “That weird touchdown he had (against Chicago) is because he took a chance. If he fair-caught it, I don’t think that play would’ve happened.”
The Panthers have a couple of players who are arguably more sure-handed than Brown, including Bersin.
But Rivera likes Brown’s big-play potential.
“The one thing that Philly does is he brings you that home run ability,” Rivera said.
Hitting a home run against the Eagles would make for a memorable homecoming. But Brown, who has a dry sense of humor, said he’s just glad to be back on the field and out of the concussion protocol.
“This is better than sitting in my house all day in a dark room watching nothing,” he said. “So anything other than that is a plus.”
If Brown is back, he probably is on most WW. Might be a nice stream this week.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/11/07/5299340/carolina-panthers-philly-brown.html#.VF40_sJ0yAg#storylink=cpy
