msudaisy26
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I hope so, but I have a bad feeling because we have a bad draft and bad free agency class.
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2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Kawhi introduces playoff load management (12 Viewers)
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I hope so, but I have a bad feeling because we have a bad draft and bad free agency class.
Jayrod
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Bulls @ Heat - no Butler takes the wind out of Miami's sails a bit and the Bulls would love to have a bit of a coming out party and actually make the playoffs. I think Chicago pulls it out...but culture and all that, so who knows. As a Celtics fan, "Butler-less" Miami and "Just happy to be here" Chicago don't scare me so I'd just like to see a good game.
Kings @ Pelicans - no Zion hurts New Orleans bad and the Kings looked good in their route of the Warriors. Brandon Ingram needs to show up and CJ McCollum needs to quit chucking up bricks if the Pelicans are going to have a chance here (both of those guys killed them against LA). At least they are at home and have some solid role players in Herb Jones, Trey Murphy & Alvarado. I'd like to see the Kings win because I think they can challenge OKC a little better than NOP would.
Kings @ Pelicans - no Zion hurts New Orleans bad and the Kings looked good in their route of the Warriors. Brandon Ingram needs to show up and CJ McCollum needs to quit chucking up bricks if the Pelicans are going to have a chance here (both of those guys killed them against LA). At least they are at home and have some solid role players in Herb Jones, Trey Murphy & Alvarado. I'd like to see the Kings win because I think they can challenge OKC a little better than NOP would.
The Kings managing to go 0-6 against a team in a year without playing said team in the playoffs would be a very Kings thing to do.
nirad3
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My bad, I only drop into this thread every now and then and clearly missed that discourse.
Kev4029
Footballguy
I've started listening/watching a couple new (one new to me, one new) podcasts that I think are worth a listen.
JJ Redick and Lebron started a podcast a few weeks ago call Mind the Game Pod. We'll see how long it can go without getting stale, but through the first five episodes, which need to be watched not just listened to, it is the most informative basketball podcast I've ever watched/listened to. They breakdown the game at a reasonably high technical level more in like a coaching/strategy way rather than the typical talking heads. 10/10 and I think a total must watch for NBA fans.
Michael Porter Jr. started a podcast a couple years ago called Curious Mike. It's less of a must listen, but he does interview some people that I've found very interesting including Josh Kroenke, Jokic, Lana Rhodes, Peyton Manning, a handful of other current and former players, and some random folks. The Jokic interview is fantastic because he doesn't interact with the press, so it was a rare look at him the person. He is a surprisingly good interviewer that is more charismatic than I thought.
JJ Redick and Lebron started a podcast a few weeks ago call Mind the Game Pod. We'll see how long it can go without getting stale, but through the first five episodes, which need to be watched not just listened to, it is the most informative basketball podcast I've ever watched/listened to. They breakdown the game at a reasonably high technical level more in like a coaching/strategy way rather than the typical talking heads. 10/10 and I think a total must watch for NBA fans.
Michael Porter Jr. started a podcast a couple years ago called Curious Mike. It's less of a must listen, but he does interview some people that I've found very interesting including Josh Kroenke, Jokic, Lana Rhodes, Peyton Manning, a handful of other current and former players, and some random folks. The Jokic interview is fantastic because he doesn't interact with the press, so it was a rare look at him the person. He is a surprisingly good interviewer that is more charismatic than I thought.
Kev4029
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I appreciate the timing, personally.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Updated The Ringer Top 50 NBA players (listed by playoff teams):
BOS (5): 7, 25, 39, 42, 47
OKC (3): 4, 37, 41
LAC (3): 6, 21, 38
MIN (3): 14, 27, 34
DEN (2): 1, 18
DAL (2): 2, 30
MIL: (2): 3, 26
PHI (2): 5, 32
GSW (2): 8, 50
PHO (2): 9, 11
LAL (2): 10, 12
NYK (2): 13, 44
MIA (2): 15, 23
IND (2): 17, 40
CLE (2): 19, 48
NOP (2): 20, 29
SAC (2): 22, 24
ORL (1): 33
ATL (1): 35
CHI (1): 49
BOS (5): 7, 25, 39, 42, 47
OKC (3): 4, 37, 41
LAC (3): 6, 21, 38
MIN (3): 14, 27, 34
DEN (2): 1, 18
DAL (2): 2, 30
MIL: (2): 3, 26
PHI (2): 5, 32
GSW (2): 8, 50
PHO (2): 9, 11
LAL (2): 10, 12
NYK (2): 13, 44
MIA (2): 15, 23
IND (2): 17, 40
CLE (2): 19, 48
NOP (2): 20, 29
SAC (2): 22, 24
ORL (1): 33
ATL (1): 35
CHI (1): 49
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Who invaded Spain in the 8th century?Golden State and Atlanta are not playoff teams
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Was it the Spanish Inquisition?Who invaded Spain in the 8th century?Golden State and Atlanta are not playoff teams
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Bad week to be a dumb Porter.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Any wagering leans tonight? Need a distraction.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Don't apologize. 75% of the posts in this thread missed 75% of prior discourse.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Figured it out all by my lonesome! So easy!
$20 Parlay +300
CHICAGO w/ SAC
1) screw Miami. I will root against them as long as I breathe. I am the Anti-Herro.
2) @FatMax
Light the Beam for Seth.
Deamon
Footballguy
You really ARE her biggest fan on here!
Deamon
Footballguy
ESPN got their experts to pick the play ins and 6 set first round series'. Some interesting results. Is it just the homer in me that thinks the Sixers have a shot against the Knicks?
Final tally: Kings 10, Pelicans 2
Final tally: Bulls 8, Heat 3
Final tally: Nuggets 11, Lakers 0
Final tally: Timberwolves 6, Suns 4
Final tally: Mavericks 6, Clippers 4
Final tally: Knicks 10, 76ers 1
Final tally: Pacers 6, Bucks 5
Final tally: Cavaliers 7, Magic 4
Final tally: Kings 10, Pelicans 2
Final tally: Bulls 8, Heat 3
Final tally: Nuggets 11, Lakers 0
Final tally: Timberwolves 6, Suns 4
Final tally: Mavericks 6, Clippers 4
Final tally: Knicks 10, 76ers 1
Final tally: Pacers 6, Bucks 5
Final tally: Cavaliers 7, Magic 4
General Malaise
Footballguy
Saw that Twolves are plus money as a series bet against Phoenix.....like +125 or something?
I want to hammer the HELL out of that. @Frostillicus
I don't want to jinx you guys but that seems to good to be true. OK if I plunk some wood on that?
I want to hammer the HELL out of that. @Frostillicus
I don't want to jinx you guys but that seems to good to be true. OK if I plunk some wood on that?
This is nutty. The Pels beat the kings without Zion by 30 already this year.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Who is 50th for the Warriors?
Deamon
Footballguy
Hmm ya. And Pels are 2.5 point favourites (this actually shocks me, thought it would be the Kings favoured). Heat also favoured tonight by 2 which surprises me. I guess HCA.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
That series gives me vibes of the first round Nets vs Celtics series a few years ago when the Celtics swept Kyrie and Durant.
Anarchy99
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Dray
msudaisy26
Footballguy
They forgot another 0 at the end.
Long Ball Larry
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I do think that people may be over correcting a bit based on what phx did to min this regular season. Phx has to do it from the midrange which is the way to beat Rudy but also can be a tough way to live for the whole series. Certainly Phoenix has a certain schematic advantage but feels a little like the wolves are getting overlooked.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Don't apologize. 75% of the posts in this thread missed 75% of prior discourse.
The Gator
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Well, this isn't going great.
Deamon
Footballguy
Ya, the bulls really need to shake it off and play better in the 2nd half.
Moe.
Footballguy
Agreed. They finished strong to get out of the play-in but they’ve had the look of a team who’s ready to get bounced 4-1 in the first round for most of the season. I’m not buying it, I like the Wolves.I do think that people may be over correcting a bit based on what phx did to min this regular season. Phx has to do it from the midrange which is the way to beat Rudy but also can be a tough way to live for the whole series. Certainly Phoenix has a certain schematic advantage but feels a little like the wolves are getting overlooked.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Otherwise the Bulls and GM will have bad blood.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
That was disappointing. The Bulls and Hawks need to blow it up and start over. They are stuck in purgatory, and not even the good kind like 76ers or the Blazers with Lillard.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I concur.
But either way, they better beat the crap out of them. I'm glad they get the Heat. I liked the Bulls, but they clearly are not a good team.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I WISH SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT11+!!!!!!1
Major
Footballguy
Yeah, I almost pulled the trigger on SAC tonight as the Pels are terrible at home and lacking Zion. Seemed a little too good to be true so I held off. I'm also terrible at betting on individual NBA games.
Really hoping for OKC v. SAC in round 1. That should be
Major
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Kings WTF?
@General Malaise can you put some money on the Nuggets to win the 1st round series please?
@General Malaise can you put some money on the Nuggets to win the 1st round series please?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I kind of want the Heat to win game one because the basketball world would explode, but the Celtics need to end that series in five or less. I don't think I can survive another postseason from fringe Heat fan chanting "Heat culture, bruh"
Anarchy99
Footballguy
All the numbers show BOS should win, but as discussed as nauseum, until they win people will continue to say they can’t win.
Despite the narrative that the C’s can’t perform in the clutch, they have dramatically improved in that area. In the playoffs last year, they had a -11.4 net rating in clutch situations. This year in the regular season, they were +15.4 (4th best in the league). By comparison, DEN was +10.4 in the regular season and +17.3 in the playoffs last year. The Nuggets were even better this year.
Overall, clutch situations were not nearly the issue for BOS like they were last year.
Despite the narrative that the C’s can’t perform in the clutch, they have dramatically improved in that area. In the playoffs last year, they had a -11.4 net rating in clutch situations. This year in the regular season, they were +15.4 (4th best in the league). By comparison, DEN was +10.4 in the regular season and +17.3 in the playoffs last year. The Nuggets were even better this year.
Overall, clutch situations were not nearly the issue for BOS like they were last year.
identikit
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Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Welp, not exactly how we drew it up, but PLAYOFF PELS engaged! Finally a home win!
We've played OKC 3 times this year, and went 1-2. 2 without B.I., and 1 with but without Zion. 2 single digit margins of victory and they blew us out in the other one. The fact that OKC has home court advantage may actually be in our favor as poorly as we've been playing at home. OKC has the better overall team (when we aren't at full strength), but we aren't going to just roll over. Just hoping for competitive games. Hoping Z may get back before series is over. Maybe if it goes 6 or 7.
We've played OKC 3 times this year, and went 1-2. 2 without B.I., and 1 with but without Zion. 2 single digit margins of victory and they blew us out in the other one. The fact that OKC has home court advantage may actually be in our favor as poorly as we've been playing at home. OKC has the better overall team (when we aren't at full strength), but we aren't going to just roll over. Just hoping for competitive games. Hoping Z may get back before series is over. Maybe if it goes 6 or 7.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I was bored, so I made a new final regular season standings including only games played by and against the 16 playoff teams. Again, this means nothing moving forward into the postseason. This includes games where stars were out injured, on load management days, before key trades were made, when a team may have had nothing to play for, etc.
BOS 29-14 .674
OKC 26-15 .634 2
MIN 25-18 .581 4
DEN 23-17 .575 4.5
IND 23-19 .548 5.5
LAL 24-20 .545 5.5
MIL 24-20 .545 5.5
PHO 20-20 .500 7.5
LAC 20-22 .476 8.5
NOP 19-23 .452 9.5
PHI 19-23 .452 9.5
ORL 18-23 .439 10
DAL 17-23 .425 10.5
CLE 17-25 .405 11.5
NYK 17-26 .395 12
MIA 14-27 .341 14
BOS 29-14 .674
OKC 26-15 .634 2
MIN 25-18 .581 4
DEN 23-17 .575 4.5
IND 23-19 .548 5.5
LAL 24-20 .545 5.5
MIL 24-20 .545 5.5
PHO 20-20 .500 7.5
LAC 20-22 .476 8.5
NOP 19-23 .452 9.5
PHI 19-23 .452 9.5
ORL 18-23 .439 10
DAL 17-23 .425 10.5
CLE 17-25 .405 11.5
NYK 17-26 .395 12
MIA 14-27 .341 14
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the moops
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Jayrod
Footballguy
I'm already telling myself, "it's just a game and you can't control what happens so don't worry about it."
