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Where's your link? I said there was evidence of white supremacists and backed it up. Show yours.One twiiter account? Good one.
Or do you just laugh and run?
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Where's your link? I said there was evidence of white supremacists and backed it up. Show yours.One twiiter account? Good one.
And not just any twitter account, one that the president's son used as an example of Antifa.Where's your link? I said there was evidence of white supremacists and backed it up. Show yours.One twiiter account? Good one.
Or do you just laugh and run?
Please stop. . Im rolling. A link to one Twitter account isnt anything. I've provided links and video all week.Where's your link? I said there was evidence of white supremacists and backed it up. Show yours.
Or do you just laugh and run?
One twitter account seemed big enough to become subject of a tweet by the president's own son. That seems pretty significant, and frightening, given the narrative being created by the White House.One twiiter account? Good one.
It was also poster by multiple people here as evidence of antifaAnd not just any twitter account, one that the president's son used as an example of Antifa.
A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of “Antifa” was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.
Before it emerged the account was run by white supremacists, Donald Trump Jr., President Donald Trump’s son, pointed his 2.8 million Instagram followers to the account as an example how dangerous Antifa is.
Great, link one of the posts that shows concrete evidence of Antifa involvement. Should be easy.Please stop. . Im rolling. A link to one Twitter account isnt anything. I've provided links and video all week.
So, nothing. No link. Thanks for the input.OMG Eric Trump got Rick Rolled therefore it must be meaningful. lolz.
It was also shared in this very thread by @giantcookie as evidence that 'Antifa' were behind everything. At the time he shared it here, it was ~5 hours old and only had a few hundred followers.One twitter account seemed big enough to become subject of a tweet by the president's own son. That seems pretty significant, and frightening, given the narrative being created by the White House.
Not sure if white supremacists, but certainly far-right.Well apparently they've found evidence of white supremacists at a Vegas rally. AFAIK, there's only rumors and innuendos of Antifa involvement. No one's provided hard evidence as of yet.
Will SommerJack Posobiec
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BREAKING: 2 crates filled with pipe bombs discovered near Korean War Memorial in DC after suspects spotted in bushes. Federal assets in pursuit
But I'm sure he is right about Bill Barr being on the verge of revealing the vast, secret left-wing media/political/Antifa alliance.Will Sommer
@willsommer
Right-wing media personality Jack Posobiec claimed police had discovered crates of pipe bombs at the Korean War Memorial. Right-wing blogs ran with the claim, Park Police tried to find the bombs. But now police say the bombs never existed.
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1268357722417790976?s=20
Shocking that Posobiec would make up something like this. I'd expect someone who promoted both PizzaGate and Seth Rich conspiracies to have higher standards.Will SommerJack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
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BREAKING: 2 crates filled with pipe bombs discovered near Korean War Memorial in DC after suspects spotted in bushes. Federal assets in pursuit
@willsommer
Right-wing media personality Jack Posobiec claimed police had discovered crates of pipe bombs at the Korean War Memorial. Right-wing blogs ran with the claim, Park Police tried to find the bombs. But now police say the bombs never existed.
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1268357722417790976?s=20
This is awesome. Thanks for posting it.
Which is why it was warmed to take anything Posobiec (and Cernovich) post with a grain of salt. Those two are basically just internet trolls and not reliable as a sourceWill Sommer
@willsommer
Right-wing media personality Jack Posobiec claimed police had discovered crates of pipe bombs at the Korean War Memorial. Right-wing blogs ran with the claim, Park Police tried to find the bombs. But now police say the bombs never existed.
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1268357722417790976?s=20
https://twitter.com/garretthaake/status/1268361997097320454?s=21My brother works for the Fed Bureau of Prisons and is part of their SORT (special operations response team). He’s former military and signed up for this team for the extra pay. They’ve provided security at different events and during natural disasters.
He’s in DC right now
In the case of Antifa involvement in the protests, I think they truly want to believe it; need to believe it because they're being fed the conspiracy directly from the top. In this case, the president's son. So it must be true and anything to contrary is fake news and a dishonest media - even when all they have is rumors and innuendos. Nothing that has actually been documented. And when confronted with evidence to the contrary, deflect and run.These arguments will never end because they don't actually believe anything
Here in CA it appears to be “career” burglars, and I doubt it’s either white supremacists or Antifa. Cara driving up to businesses, smashing windows, filling the cars and getting out.I don't know how one would even how about measuring this, but I'd bet there is roughly equal actual evidence of antifa and white supremacists causing all of the mayhem.
Can add First Ave to this listI'm not entirely sure of all of these but here are organizations that I have heard that have severed ties with the Minneapolis Police Department.
University of Minnesota
Minneapolis Park Board (Minneapolis Park Police)
YMCA
YWCA
Minneapolis Public Schools
Walker Art Center
Minneapolis Institute of Arts
yes to music venueStuart_Little said:Is that First Ave the music venue (that Prince owned I think)?
Not just the same sources. Actually worse sources than Fox. While claiming places like the NYT or WashPo are not reliable...or are fake news if we take Trumps words.Stuart_Little said:I agree except it's not just Antifa, it's every...little...thing...possible, every single day. It's taken every shape and form imaginable, but we've basically been having the same argument for three years with not one iota of progress or agreement because both are impossible when truth and facts carry zero weight. How many thousands of times has Fox News et al. been proven untrustworthy and factually untrue only for the same people to use the same sources the next day? Any normal person would move on and try to find something more reputable. Unless, of course, you find truthlessness and distortion to be attractive, meaning you're not normal at all. QED
Got it, thanks. I don't know where I got the Prince owned it thing from.yes to music venue
Prince never owned it though. Did film Purple Rain there though
How does change start? With small steps. Maybe there are cynical cops who join the protests, but not all of them. Not letting them do so seems counterproductive to me.
1. Have the reforms in Austin been effective?I think awareness of this issue has grown significantly since Ferguson. And now most people seem to be supportive of the need for systemic change. Will we see it?
Biden has put out his recommendations. Trump made some changes a year or year and a half ago but has obviously been quiet lately. Do you think either of them will push for change?
Most change, though, needs to come from the local level. A little over a year ago, activists/public pressure got the Austin City Council to not ratify the police union contract until it included some significant reforms. Do you think we will see more of that at the local level?
Will reforms continue and even pick up going forward? I hope so, but I don't know.
Lol....The MSM looks like Baghdad Bob reporting the story. With images of buildings burning and people looting, the media is telling everyone how peaceful the protesters are. And most posters in here are eating it up the outlandish spin. The MSM ignores/downplays story of dead cops who get shot by looters. The only thing the New York Times and Washpo are reliable in is pushing their narrative.Not just the same sources. Actually worse sources than Fox. While claiming places like the NYT or WashPo are not reliable...or are fake news if we take Trumps words.
How absurd is it to blame criminal activities on a group that has had no evidence of being involved? And to be clear, I'm certainly not blaming all of it on white supremacists.It is even more absurd to be blaming the criminal activities on white fascist groups. The media only reports on stories which can be linked some racist group. There are millions of tweets and tens of thousands of arrests, but the few that the media headlines are those who can be linked to outside groups. It is like people seriously believe that the only reason some radical leftist is torching a building is because of sone fake tweet. What an asine perspective
Sorry...what spin?Lol....The MSM looks like Baghdad Bob reporting the story. With images of buildings burning and people looting, the media is telling everyone how peaceful the protesters are. And most posters in here are eating it up the outlandish spin. The MSM ignores/downplays story of dead cops who get shot by looters. The only thing the New York Times and Washpo are reliable in is pushing their narrative.
It is even more absurd to be blaming the criminal activities on white fascist groups. The media only reports on stories which can be linked some racist group. There are millions of tweets and tens of thousands of arrests, but the few that the media headlines are those who can be linked to outside groups. It is like people seriously believe that the only reason some radical leftist is torching a building is because of sone fake tweet. What an asine perspective.
A lot of those same cops turned around and beat people after their photo ops. They got their puff piece in the media and went right back to cracking down on the protests.How does change start? With small steps. Maybe there are cynical cops who join the protests, but not all of them. Not letting them do so seems counterproductive to me.
Pure stupidity.Defund the police is the chanting now at rallies. A Congress woman from Detroit Rashida Tlaib actually supports defunding police. Celebrities endorsing no police. Is this the direction we are heading? Total anarchy?
Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt lashed out at St. Louis' chief prosecutor over the release of suspected rioters and looters arrested over several days of protests that have seen four police officers shot and a retired police captain killed.
"In a stunning development, our office has learned that every single one of the St. Louis looters and rioters arrested were released back onto the streets by local prosecutor Kim Gardner," Schmitt said in a Wednesday tweet accompanied with a video showing a burning vehicle and several audible gunshots and police sirens.
It appears we are headed towards that or a military state where you are executed for committing crimes.Defund the police is the chanting now at rallies. A Congress woman from Detroit Rashida Tlaib actually supports defunding police. Celebrities endorsing no police. Is this the direction we are heading? Total anarchy?
Biden campaign is also bailing looters and rioters out of jail.Defund the police is the chanting now at rallies. A Congress woman from Detroit Rashida Tlaib actually supports defunding police. Celebrities endorsing no police. Is this the direction we are heading? Total anarchy?
I feel like this is where we are as a country right now. We can't have intelligent conversations about anything. We run on fury and passion.Defund the police is the chanting now at rallies. A Congress woman from Detroit Rashida Tlaib actually supports defunding police. Celebrities endorsing no police. Is this the direction we are heading? Total anarchy?
If we don`t have local and state police we will have military police like China and Russia does. Not sure Susan Sarandon would be too happy with that.
1. Have the reforms in Austin been effective?
2. Has there been unrest in Austin?
I agree that change needs to happen at a local level but these protests seem to be a national issue - people in Charlotte protesting a killing in Minnesota. I'm not sure if local changes can prevent this.
I think it evolved a bit...hell, look at the whole board...we have been having the same arguments in thread after thread for years now.
I'm not going to say everyone saying this has a nuanced vision of what it means to "defund the police." But what many people mean is not that there isn't a police force. Its that they don't get as much money as they do now to buy things like military hardware. And that money instead goes to treating the root causes of problems - mental health issues, poverty, joblessness, etc.Defund the police is the chanting now at rallies. A Congress woman from Detroit Rashida Tlaib actually supports defunding police. Celebrities endorsing no police. Is this the direction we are heading? Total anarchy?
If we don`t have local and state police we will have military police like China and Russia does. Not sure Susan Sarandon would be too happy with that.
Please provide a legitimate link for such a claim...Biden campaign is also bailing looters and rioters out of jail.
I get that. I'm sure it happened. I still think the potential good that comes from it outweighs the negatives from the #######s.A lot of those same cops turned around and beat people after their photo ops. They got their puff piece in the media and went right back to cracking down on the protests.
Demilitarize the police doesn't roll off the tongue as well.I'm not going to say everyone saying this has a nuanced vision of what it means to "defund the police." But what many people mean is not that there isn't a police force. Its that they don't get as much money as they do now to buy things like military hardware. And that money instead goes to treating the root causes of problems - mental health issues, poverty, joblessness, etc.
Try google , hthPlease provide a legitimate link for such a claim...