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Cam Newton's Media Day (1 Viewer)
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AcerFC
Footballguy
The way Trent Dilfer was talking him up yesterday, I thought he was the second coming I would love to know the difference between Newton and Tebow. They are both running QBs who didnt throw the ball a lot in college. In fact, Tebow threw more then Newton(Newton had 280 passes to Gabberts 475 last year)Why is Newton projected to be so much better then Tebow? Newton is slotted as a sure fire Round 1 pick while everyone thought Tebow was a second day draft pick until Denver ruined those plans. Newton is also slotted to go in the 1st round in rookie drafts while Tebow mostly went in the 3rd last yearJust curious
Newton has much better athletic skills, but most importantly he doesn't have the throwing hitch that Tebow had/has. I'm not a huge fan, I'm just answering your question.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
It will come down to work ethic and coaching with this kid (like it does most). He has elite physical building blocks however it will take time and effort to get the mental traits to where they need to be. Going to a team with a strong running game would definitely give the kid a better chance to succeed. Although I have my doubts about his ability to read a defense and find his personality annoying (not sure that is a negative - not sure what his work ethic is like) I believe Tennessee would be a good fit for him.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Also he's not being talked about as a FB/H-Back or TE much like Teebow was this time of the year.
This is a bit of a scripted show for QBs. JaMarcus Russel was phenomenal on his pro day and remember all the stories about Kyle Boller throwing 60? yards from his knees. It's a show for every position but QB seems to be the most negative...eh well not negative just that it doesn't matter. Nothing that happens is going to change game tape or make them not want to see how he does at the combine and the college's pro day. It's like a super simple circus. Yeah it's cool they can catch the hoops and swing on that line for kids, but for adults it's "yeah well he practices that 100 times a day, big deal."
The thing I don't like about him is far too many knowledgeable people are saying the offense was almost stupid. One read, if it's open chuck it, if it's not run. Initially I was "yeah right" but this criticism is getting real common. That is peewee style offense, high schools are more complicated and not coincidentally the guy was in the gun all the time too.
To beat "how is that possible" replies, he is a super athlete that can overcome.
He doesn't strike me as an idiot at all so I'm not saying he can't read an NFL D. I'm not even mr. college fan, I just read. The thing is though that Auburn pro day better have covered WRs and him going through some reads. That will be worth millions to him in an NFL contract weeks later. The NFL teams seem so ready to adore this kid and it seems that's all he needs to prove.
The thing I don't like about him is far too many knowledgeable people are saying the offense was almost stupid. One read, if it's open chuck it, if it's not run. Initially I was "yeah right" but this criticism is getting real common. That is peewee style offense, high schools are more complicated and not coincidentally the guy was in the gun all the time too.
To beat "how is that possible" replies, he is a super athlete that can overcome.
He doesn't strike me as an idiot at all so I'm not saying he can't read an NFL D. I'm not even mr. college fan, I just read. The thing is though that Auburn pro day better have covered WRs and him going through some reads. That will be worth millions to him in an NFL contract weeks later. The NFL teams seem so ready to adore this kid and it seems that's all he needs to prove.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
I keep hearing jemarcus name everytime this kid is talked about. Why? I've heard there is some off field stuff. Nfln kept saying they don't know if he is a "first in building, last to leave" but then go on to say he was a natural leader at auburn and his teammates love his work ethic. But then jemarcus brought up. If I recall jemarcus was a lazy fattie with an awful work ethic. Work ethic is why jemarcus was a bust. Newton isn't fat and that is obvious so there are obvious work ethic questions.
As someone said and I agree that his personality is annoying, jemarcus was annoying in a similiar way. It will all boil down to work ethic, if his is good then he has a great chance in the NFL. If it is like jemarcus he will bust and isn't worth drafting.
As someone said and I agree that his personality is annoying, jemarcus was annoying in a similiar way. It will all boil down to work ethic, if his is good then he has a great chance in the NFL. If it is like jemarcus he will bust and isn't worth drafting.
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Film don't lie.
I think it was Parcells that said that his draft board stayed the same before and after the combine. Other than having a face-to-face with the incoming rookies, there really is no reason to move players based on 3 cone, sprint times or long jump drills.
I think it was Parcells that said that his draft board stayed the same before and after the combine. Other than having a face-to-face with the incoming rookies, there really is no reason to move players based on 3 cone, sprint times or long jump drills.
Hybrid
Footballguy
All of the praise of this workout reminds me of this article.
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
"In a year when NFL scouts have had a difficult time reaching a consensus on the top 10 prospects for the draft, let alone identifying the player who figures to be selected with the first overall choice, one outstanding workout can make a significant difference.
And so, given what scouts considered a superb on-campus audition Wednesday in front of 100 pairs of prying eyes, Utah quarterback Alex Smith stated his case for why the San Francisco 49ers should seriously consider him on April 23 for the top spot in the lottery.
Alex Smith threw 32 TDs and just 4 INTs last season for Utah.
How good was Smith during an hour-long workout in which he threw 80 passes, had only three hit the ground, and tossed just one "uncatchable" ball? So good that, at the conclusion of the session, scouts afforded the Utes star a rare standing ovation.
"He did a very good job delivering the ball," said 49ers first-year coach Mike Nolan, who was accompanied to the workout by personnel director Scot McCloughan, coordinator Mike McCarthy and quarterbacks coach Jim Hostler. "There were some little things, but nothing that isn't correctable."
University of California star Aaron Rodgers, the other quarterback prospect with a shot at grabbing the No. 1 overall slot, will work out on Thursday for league scouts. The 49ers are considering a group of about a half-dozen players for the top overall selection.
But if Smith was as brilliant Wednesday as scouts in attendance claimed he was, all of the other contenders for the No. 1 pick will need very strong workouts.
In only about three weeks, Smith, who bypassed his final season of college eligibility to enter the draft, has successfully addressed many of the questions about him. He measured 6-feet-4 1/8 and 217 pounds at the Indianapolis combine last month and seemed about 10 pounds heavier than at the conclusion of the college season, a key for scouts who were concerned he might be too thin. And Smith ran an eye-opening time of 4.71 in the 40, and also did well in field drills, demonstrating better athleticism than some felt he possessed.
“ I felt pretty good. There isn't a lot I think I could have done much better. ”
— Alex Smith, former Utah QB
The Wednesday workout only enhanced an already strong portfolio. One scout from an NFC team suggested to ESPN.com it was the best quarterback workout he had seen in at least 10 years. Another compared it to Troy Aikman's now-legendary audition in 1989.
"I felt pretty good," said Smith, who prepared for the session by working with Larry Kennan, the former longtime NFL offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. "There isn't a lot I think I could have done much better."
Smith threw from three-, five- and seven-step drops. He executed play-action fakes, half-rolls and full rollouts. And he displayed good arm strength on the deep "out" patterns and nice touch on the long ball. Another key: Smith showed that he could work from under center, in a standard NFL set, instead of from the shotgun formation. In the Utah offense, most of the plays are run from the shotgun.
League scouts tend to be a bit wary of quarterbacks who played in "gimmick" offenses in college, and so working from something other than a spread look was essential for Smith as the evaluation process now moves into the home stretch. Nolan allowed that, given Rodgers' familiarity with the kind of offense San Francisco will employ in 2005, he still might have a slight edge in the quarterback derby. But he was clearly impressed by Smith on and off the field.
Nolan mentioned Smith's "consistency of personality" during a pre-workout interview as one of the most impressive elements of the day. Smith, 20, finished his economics degree in just two years and carries a 3.74 grade-point average. "
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
"In a year when NFL scouts have had a difficult time reaching a consensus on the top 10 prospects for the draft, let alone identifying the player who figures to be selected with the first overall choice, one outstanding workout can make a significant difference.
And so, given what scouts considered a superb on-campus audition Wednesday in front of 100 pairs of prying eyes, Utah quarterback Alex Smith stated his case for why the San Francisco 49ers should seriously consider him on April 23 for the top spot in the lottery.
Alex Smith threw 32 TDs and just 4 INTs last season for Utah.
How good was Smith during an hour-long workout in which he threw 80 passes, had only three hit the ground, and tossed just one "uncatchable" ball? So good that, at the conclusion of the session, scouts afforded the Utes star a rare standing ovation.
"He did a very good job delivering the ball," said 49ers first-year coach Mike Nolan, who was accompanied to the workout by personnel director Scot McCloughan, coordinator Mike McCarthy and quarterbacks coach Jim Hostler. "There were some little things, but nothing that isn't correctable."
University of California star Aaron Rodgers, the other quarterback prospect with a shot at grabbing the No. 1 overall slot, will work out on Thursday for league scouts. The 49ers are considering a group of about a half-dozen players for the top overall selection.
But if Smith was as brilliant Wednesday as scouts in attendance claimed he was, all of the other contenders for the No. 1 pick will need very strong workouts.
In only about three weeks, Smith, who bypassed his final season of college eligibility to enter the draft, has successfully addressed many of the questions about him. He measured 6-feet-4 1/8 and 217 pounds at the Indianapolis combine last month and seemed about 10 pounds heavier than at the conclusion of the college season, a key for scouts who were concerned he might be too thin. And Smith ran an eye-opening time of 4.71 in the 40, and also did well in field drills, demonstrating better athleticism than some felt he possessed.
“ I felt pretty good. There isn't a lot I think I could have done much better. ”
— Alex Smith, former Utah QB
The Wednesday workout only enhanced an already strong portfolio. One scout from an NFC team suggested to ESPN.com it was the best quarterback workout he had seen in at least 10 years. Another compared it to Troy Aikman's now-legendary audition in 1989.
"I felt pretty good," said Smith, who prepared for the session by working with Larry Kennan, the former longtime NFL offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. "There isn't a lot I think I could have done much better."
Smith threw from three-, five- and seven-step drops. He executed play-action fakes, half-rolls and full rollouts. And he displayed good arm strength on the deep "out" patterns and nice touch on the long ball. Another key: Smith showed that he could work from under center, in a standard NFL set, instead of from the shotgun formation. In the Utah offense, most of the plays are run from the shotgun.
League scouts tend to be a bit wary of quarterbacks who played in "gimmick" offenses in college, and so working from something other than a spread look was essential for Smith as the evaluation process now moves into the home stretch. Nolan allowed that, given Rodgers' familiarity with the kind of offense San Francisco will employ in 2005, he still might have a slight edge in the quarterback derby. But he was clearly impressed by Smith on and off the field.
Nolan mentioned Smith's "consistency of personality" during a pre-workout interview as one of the most impressive elements of the day. Smith, 20, finished his economics degree in just two years and carries a 3.74 grade-point average. "
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