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DYNASTY: 2012 Top college prospects (4 Viewers)

Scout: TE Coby Fleener 'might be the most overrated' in draft

Stanford's Coby Fleener, considered by many to be the top tight end prospect, "might be the most overrated guy in the draft," one scout told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, via ProFootballTalk.com.

Fleener, who has drawn first-round interest for his athleticism, was pegged by the anonymous scout as a "red-zone, jump-ball player."

"He's awful as a blocker," the scout said. "Despite his workout numbers he's really not a quick-twitch, dynamic-moving guy. He's a straight-line, build-up player. All these reports about him being an athlete and this and that, they're assuming that because he ran fast."

Fleener, who ran an unofficial 4.45-second 40-yard dash at the Stanford pro day, is NFL.com personnel guru Gil Brandt's 32nd-best player in this year's draft. Fleener hauled in 96 catches for 1,543 yards and 18 touchdowns in college, primarily catching passes from Andrew Luck, likely to be the top draft pick.

But another scout told the Journal Sentinel that Fleener was "a smart guy with a real good feel for route running."

"He's more of a long-stretch tight end," Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik told the newspaper.
 
The Shutdown 50 — #12: Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor

By Doug Farrar

With the 2011 NFL season in the books, it's time to turn our eyes to the NFL draft, and the pre-draft evaluation process. Right up to the draft, we'll be taking a closer look at the 50 players who may be the biggest NFL difference-makers when all is said and done.

We continue this year's series with Baylor receiver Kendall Wright, who was a lot more than just Robert Griffin III's primary target over the last two seasons. In 2008 and 2009, when he was catching as many passes from Blake Szymanski and Kirby Freeman as he was from the consensus second overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, Wright still showed that he was a playmaker, leading the Bears in receptions for four straight seasons. But when Griffin topped out in 2011, Wright was right there with him, catching 108 passes for 1,663 yards (a 15.4 per-catch average) and 14 touchdowns.

A less than stellar combine (we'll get to that later) overshadowed his game tape to some, but Wright was determined to make good, and he did so at his Pro Day, timing out at 4.41 and 4.46 in the 40-yard dash. Wright's 4,004 career receiving yards is the school's record by a crushing margin -- 1,300 yards more than any predecessor. He may be 5-foot-10 and just 198 pounds, but he brings characteristics of bigger receivers to the table -- he has a vertical leap of 42 inches, and he's squatted 550 pounds before.

When you add it all up, except for a bad combine and a few schematic limitations, it's kind of surprising that more people aren't talking about Kendall Wright as a top of the first round player and potentially dominant impact weapon in the NFL -- especially since the NFL is leaning very much in the direction of Wright's best position on the field.

Pros: Wright has the speed to line up outside and torch most of the best cornerbacks in straight-line races or on the boundary, but where he really shines is as an explosive slot receiver. Not only is he incredibly quick to the point on quick slants and crosses, but he's very tough when he gets the ball over the middle -- he doesn't fear traffic at all. Has at least one extra gear and can absolutely peel away from potential tacklers. Gets from a start-and-stop to top speed very quickly. Terrifically elusive in the open field; you'll frequently see Wright juke deep defenders right out of position and keep running. Has rare lateral explosiveness in space and will make DBs look like they're standing still to get to the sideline and upfield. Former standout basketball player can high-point the ball in ways that negate the advantage defenders would have over other 5-foot-10 receivers.

On comebacks, Wright catches the ball cleanly, gets his body turned immediately, and it's off to the races again. Tremendous quickness on last-second cuts -- he's a nightmare to cover on dig routes, quick ins and outs, and comebacks because he can get free from blanket coverage at the right time. Always has an eye for the ball, even when he's not the target. Caught a touchdown pass against Oklahoma last season that was actually a deflection off another receiver's hands. Has the potential to destroy zone coverage because he'll just split through the spaces and beat the corner/safety combo downfield in ways that bring Randy Moss with the 2007 Patriots to mind. Surprisingly good blocker -- in fact, the physical nature of his play is the thing people don't talk about with Wright, but it really does show up on tape.

Cons: In Baylor's wide-open offense, Wright didn't face a lot of press coverage -- he wasn't re-distributed a lot and was able to use his speed to its best advantage. He could get beaten up as he's not used to at the next level, which could take some adjusting -- another reason I think he'd be an ideal slot receiver at the next level. Prone to drops at times (small hands) and doesn't always adjust to off-throws at an elite level.

To put it mildly, Wright's combine was a severe disappointment. I wrote the pool report on him from Lucas Oil Stadium, and I was shocked at how slow and chunky he looked.

For a speed receiver, Wright looked bigger than he should have -- too thick around the trunk especially. His unofficial 4.61 40 was matched by the fact that he looked much slower on the field at Lucas Oil Stadium than he ever did on Baylor tape. He came out of the blocks all over the place on his 40 -- he didn't look quite as slow as his time represented, but his overall performance was a disappointment ... His best catch of the say was the long seam route, which shouldn't be a surprise, since that's the route he killed everyone with in college. He did have nice hand catches in both gauntlets, but he was very wavy on the line; he couldn't keep himself straight. He seems like a player who's used to outrunning his mistakes.

Wright adjusted to an overthrow inside on the short cut route. He rounded of his route a bit, though it wasn't the worst route he ran all day. The 10-yard out-and-up was more of a problem -- he has a tendency to round off his routes, or start and stop instead of slamming a speed cut. He had another stutter-step on the 13-yard dig, though he made a good adjustment catch. He had decent speed on the deep route on the numbers, but couldn't catch an overthrow by Kellen Moore (yes, an overthrow by Kellen Moore. Believe it!)

It was a very atypical performance, and though he redeemed himself to a point at his Pro Day, Wright surely fell in the eyes of some talent evaluators, There are some players who probably would have been better off failing a drug test at the combine than showing up out of shape, because it negates their efforts so severely on that most important stage. Teams that go back to the game tape will find the re-affirmation they need -- Wright is a speed demon and a great football player with a lot to offer.Conclusion: As NFL passing games expand, and the league realizes the importance of meeting spread offense concepts halfway, the slot receiver in multi-receiver sets has become a position of paramount importance. In 2011, the New York Giants led the league in three-receiver sets, and speed slot receiver Victor Cruz was the gamebreaker of Eli Manning's dreams. Cruz went undrafted, but what he's done to defenses in forcing nickel and dime coverages with his ability to shoot up the seam and scare safeties to death is a point of study in other front offices.

It's a chicken-or-egg question -- has the slot corner increased in importance because of the expanded slot receiver concept, or is it the other way around? No matter -- it's a copycat league, and the Super Bowl champions did Kendall Wright a very big favor by making his ideal position that much more valuable. He's projected as a mid-to-late first-round pick in most mocks, but there's at least one player every year taken far earlier than people expect. This year, Kendall Wright could very well be that guy. There are times when he'll remind you of DeSean Jackson and Steve Smith, but for now, it's best to comp Wright with the guy who's probably going to make him a lot of money.

Pro Comparison: Victor Cruz, New York Giants
 
Mike Mayock's top 100 NFL draft prospect rankings

By Mike Mayock NFL Network

Mayock's position-by-position rankings

With the 2012 NFL Draft nearly here, Mike Mayock has unveiled his top 100 prospect rankings.

1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford

2. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor

3. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama

4. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU

5. Matt Kalil, OT, Southern California

6. Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College

7. Mark Barron, SS, Alabama

8. Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina

9. Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse

10. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State

11. Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State

12. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

13. Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis

14. Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State

15. Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama

16. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor

17. Doug Martin, RB, Boise State

18. Melvin Ingram, OLB, South Carolina

19. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M

20. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa

21. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina

22. Whitney Mercilus, OLB, Illinois

23. Courtney Upshaw, DE, Alabama

24. David DeCastro, G, Stanford

25. Cordy Glenn, OT, Georgia

26. Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State

27. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama

28. Harrison Smith, SS, Notre Dame

29. Michael Brockers, DT, LSU

30. Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall

31. Kevin Zeitler, G, Wisconsin

32. Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech

33. David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech

34. Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford

35. Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State

36. Jeff Allen, OT, Illinois

37. Amini Silatolu, G, Midwestern State

38. Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford

39. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt

40. Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin

41. Bruce Irvin, DE, West Virginia

42. Devon Still, DT, Penn State

43. Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson

44. Bobby Massie, OT, Mississippi

45. Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana

46. Lavonte David, OLB, Nebraska

47. Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson

48. Josh Robinson, CB, Central Florida

49. Nick Perry, DE, Southern California

50. Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia

51. Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina

52. Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State

53. Andre Branch, OLB, Clemson

54. Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State

55. Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama

56. Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut

57. A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois

58. Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina

59. Derek Wolfe, DT, Cincinnati

60. T.Y. Hilton, WR, Florida International

61. Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia

62. Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California

63. Rueben Randle, WR, LSU

64. Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington

65. Brandon Taylor, SS, LSU

66. Kelechi Osemele, G, Iowa State

67. Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State

68. Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami

69. Mychal Kendricks, ILB, California

70. Mike Martin, DT, Michigan

71. LaMichael James, RB, Oregon

72. Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State

73. Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State

74. Ronnell Lewis, OLB, Oklahoma

75. Dwight Bentley, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette

76. Brandon Brooks, G, Miami (Ohio)

77. Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati

78. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska

79. Philip Blake, C, Baylor

80. DeQuan Menzie, FS, Alabama

81. Sean Spence, OLB, Miami

82. Lamar Miller, RB, Miami

83. Billy Winn, DE, Boise State

84. Jonathan Massaquoi, DE, Troy

85. Ben Jones, C, Georgia

86. Demario Davis, OLB, Arkansas State

87. Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State

88. Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple

89. Marvin Jones, WR, California

90. Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma

91. Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers

92. Orson Charles, TE, Georgia

93. Chris Polk, RB, Washington

94. Frank Alexander, DE, Oklahoma

95. Trevor Guyton, DE, California

96. Donald Stephenson, OT, Oklahoma

97. Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma

98. Bobby Wagner, OLB, Utah State

99. Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State

100. Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
 
'mlball77 said:
Seems like Chandler Jones is getting a lot of buzz right now. Wonder if that materializes on draft day?
That will be one of the interesting draft headlines to watch!
 
PFW Consensus Top 100

By Nolan Nawrocki

PFW's final top 100 is reflective of the general consensus of grades on draft boards around the league. An "H" was used to designate players who will be likely be drafted higher than they grade on tape because of any number of factors, including a lack of positional depth, reaching for team needs or general overhype. An "L" was used to signify players who are ranked lower than they grade and will likely produce in the pros and could prove to be value picks.

1. QB Andrew Luck, Stanford

2. QB Robert Griffin, Baylor

3. RB Trent Richardson, Alabama (L)

A hammering inside running force destined for NFL stardom.

4. CB Morris Claiborne, LSU

5. OT Matt Kalil, USC

6. WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State

7. DT Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State

8. DE Melvin Ingram, South Carolina

9. OLB Luke Kuechly, Boston College

10. DE Quinton Coples, North Carolina (H)

Demanding DL coaches confident they can extract more from elite talent.

11. QB Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M (H)

Need for QBs drives up draft status of raw, 19-game starter brimming with upside.

12. SS Mark Barron, Alabama

13. DT Dontari Poe, Memphis

14. ILB Don’ta Hightower, Alabama

15. DE Michael Brockers, LSU (H)

Has star potential if he figures out how to harness his raw skill set.

16. OG David DeCastro, Stanford

17. WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame

18. CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama

19. OT Riley Reiff, Iowa

20. DT Jerel Worthy, Michigan State

21. OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama

22. OG Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin

23. DE Chandler Jones, Syracuse

24. CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina (H)

Big, sound corner lacking instincts, hands of top-flight cover man.

25. WR Rueben Randle, LSU

26. RB Doug Martin, Boise State

27. DE Nick Perry, USC (H)

Performance does not yet match workout numbers.

28. OT Cordy Glenn, Georgia

29. OG Amini Silatolu, Midwestern State

30. DT Devon Still, Penn State (H)

Classic underachiever shows enough flashes to warrant top-round consideration.

31. DE Whitney Mercilus, Illinois (H)

Late digester who looks like a top-10 pick on paper only.

32. RB David Wilson, Virginia Tech

33. TE Coby Fleener, Stanford

34. CB Trumaine Johnson, Montana

35. FS Harrison Smith, Notre Dame

36. OLB Lavonte David, Nebraska (L)

Instincts, urgency should overcome lack of size.

37. QB Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State

38. WR A.J. Jenkins, Illinois (L)

Underrated pass catcher with big-play ability.

39. DT Kendall Reyes, Connecticut

40. DE Bruce Irvin, West Virginia (L)

Unique pass-rush ability trumps character concerns.

41. OT Jeff Allen, Illinois (L)

Looks like Jane, plays like Tarzan.

42. CB Josh Robinson, UCF

43. WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina

44. OLB Shea McClellin, Boise State (H)

Short-armed, overhyped "program" player with limited ceiling.

45. DE Andre Branch, Clemson

46. QB Kirk Cousins, Michigan State

47. WR Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech (H)

Eye-popping measurables may never translate to field.

48. DE Vinny Curry, Marshall

49. C Peter Konz, Wisconsin (H)

Top center is almost always overdrafted to fill need.

50. OT Bobby Massie, Mississippi

51. WR Kendall Wright, Baylor

52. DT Mike Martin, Michigan

53. QB Brock Osweiler, Arizona State

54. DE Ronnell Lewis, Oklahoma

55. OT Mitchell Schwartz, California

56. DT Brandon Thompson, Clemson

57. RB Lamar Miller, Miami (Fla.)

58. TE Dwayne Allen, Clemson

59. NT Alameda Ta’amu, Washington (L)

Pocket-collapsing force showed ability to dominate.

60. WR Brian Quick, Appalachian State

61. ILB Mychal Kendricks, California (L)

Mighty-mouse 'backer with NFL explosion.

62. RB Isaiah Pead, Cincinnati

63. OLB Zach Brown, North Carolina

64. CB Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama

65. WR Chris Givens, Wake Forest

66. DT Derek Wolfe, Cincinnati

67. OT Jonathan Martin, Stanford (H)

Hype has not come close to matching on-field performance.

68. RB LaMichael James, Oregon

69. CB Casey Hayward, Vanderbilt (L)

Quick, instinctive ballhawk will make a long living preying on NFL passers.

70. OT Kelechi Osemele, Iowa State (H)

Physical specimen yet to realize immense potential and may never.

71. WR Mohamed Sanu, Rutgers (L)

Productive inside receiver with professional makeup.

72. OG Brandon Brooks, Miami (Ohio)

73. DE Tyrone Crawford, Boise State (L)

Strong, physical, underrated producer.

74. DE Olivier Vernon, Miami (Fla.)

75. NT Josh Chapman, Alabama (L)

Mentally tough competitor will do dirty work for long time.

76. CB Dwight Bentley, Louisiana-Lafayette

77. OG Tony Bergstrom, Utah

78. C Ben Jones, Georgia

79. WR Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma (L)

Quick, savvy, instinctive producer will be an injury value pick.

80. OT Mike Adams, Ohio State

81. WR T.Y. Hilton, FIU (L)

Not all playmakers need to be NFL tough.

82. CB Brandon Boykin, Georgia

83. CB Jamell Fleming, Oklahoma

84. RB Robert Turbin, Utah State (H)

Stiff and straight-linish equals injury-prone.

85. CB Alfonzo Dennard, Nebraska

86. DE Billy Winn, Boise State

87. C David Molk, Michigan

88. DE Trevor Guyton, California (L)

Tough, consistent, dependable performer.

89. WR Joe Adams, Arkansas

90. LB Bobby Wagner, Utah State

91. TE Taylor Thompson, SMU (L)

Has freakish, first-round athletic talent with big upside.

92. WR Marv Jones, California

93. RB Bernard Pierce, Temple

94. C Josh LeRibeus, SMU

95. CB Josh Norman, Coastal Carolina (H)

Will be great if becomes half the player he thinks he is.

96. OT Donald Stephenson, Oklahoma

97. OG Joe Looney, Wake Forest (L)

Senior Bowl foot injury could be a blessing for savvy decision-makers.

98. DE Jared Crick, Nebraska (H)

Stands to be overdrafted for his grit and toughness.

99. TE LaDarius Green, Louisiana-Lafayette

100. NT Hebron Fangupo, BYU

To see Nolan Nawrocki's top 100 prospects and to read scouting reports on all the draft-eligible players, visit PFW's draft database.
 
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2012 NFL Draft countdown: SN's No. 2 prospect, Stanford QB Andrew Luck

Russ Lande

Sporting News

This is the 39th in a daily series of in-depth evaluations on the top 40 prospects leading up to the 2012 NFL Draft, which runs April 26-28. Today: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford

Strengths: Luck is a tall, athletic quarterback who has the strong arm to make every NFL throw with good velocity. (Vital statistics: 6-4, 234, 4.63 in the 40-yard dash)

When he strides into his throws, he really drives the ball and can fit the ball into tight spots. He shows excellent throwing mechanics when he stays focused on them and consistently releases the ball quickly. His ability to stand up to pressure in the pocket enables him to make strong, accurate throws.

He has a natural sense for playing the position, which is atypical for most quarterbacks at the college level. Luck has excellent field vision and has consistently shown the patience to go through his progressions while simultaneously reading the defense.

Before the snap, he generally makes the correct presnap adjustments and calls. Even when he does not throw the ball, his analysis of the defense is rarely wrong.

Weaknesses: Luck has not been able to correct his habit of forcing passes into bad spots, and he also tends to throw the ball up for grabs to avoid sacks. This leads him to throw more interceptions than other elite quarterbacks.

He does not consistently stride into his throws aggressively, drive the ball or follow through on his passes. As a result, his ball does not always have the velocity to prevent defenders from breaking up the pass.

When he gets flushed from the pocket, he sometimes will not scan the field sufficiently to find an open receiver. Consequently, he prematurely tucks the ball and begins to run downfield.

Draft status: Last week, the Colts informed Luck they will select him with the first overall pickand he will be expected to start from Day 1.

In 2009, Luck was a redshirt freshman. After I evaluated his play that season, I was extremely impressed. Since his freshman year, he has improved in many areas. However, for a player of his talent, it concerns me that he still makes numerous mistakes.

There is no doubt he has the football smarts, arm strength, passing skills and athleticism to be a top starter in the NFL. However, he needs to become consistent in striding aggressively into his throws.

In addition, he needs to follow through on his passes to make both the intermediate and deep throws with sufficient velocity and accuracy. Most important, he must avoid the tendency to force passes when no viable options exist.

Luck is a premier quarterback who should be a very productive pro. He reminds me of Peyton Manning when Manning came out of Tennessee. That is, both players have remarkable command of the offense, with the ability to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage before the snap. Few college quarterbacks can do thatand few college quarterbacks have had their maturity and elite skill set heading to the NFL.
 
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2012 NFL Draft countdown: SN's No. 1 prospect, Baylor QB Robert Griffin III

Russ Lande

Sporting News

This is the final installment of in-depth evaluations on the top 40 prospects leading up to the 2012 NFL Draft, which runs Thursday-Saturday. Today: Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor.

Strengths: Griffin has spectacular game-changing athleticism and elite passing skills. He appears to be comfortable setting up and getting rid of the ball quickly with good velocity and accuracy on quick hitting routes like slants and skinny posts. Griffin has deep accuracy with an ability to drop the ball into a receiver’s hands, 30-plus yards down the field.

When he feels the pressure, he moves quickly to avoid it. Griffin then resets his feet to make strong and accurate throws.

He also makes big plays scrambling with the ball. When he is forced from the pocket, he does a great job of keeping his head up and eyes down the field to try to find an open receiver.

Griffin has shown a willingness to stand strong in the pocket. He doesn't panic with pressure in his face and force passes into bad spots to avoid sacks. He is willingness to throw the ball away rather than take a loss, a difficult lesson to teach a quarterback.

Perhaps more significant than Griffin’s physical skills are his outstanding intangibles and leadership. These traits will make him a star in the NFL.

Weaknesses: Griffin has a thin frame, especially below the waist. This raises concerns about his durability. (Vital stats: 6-2, 223 pounds, 4.40 in the 40-yard dash)

When Griffin spends a lot of time in the pocket to make deep throws, his release can become elongated with a wind-up. He must improve as it gives a defender the chance to close quickly on the ball.

Griffin tends to throw to the target rather than leading the receiver. He must improve in this area. On intermediate and deep routes, too often he tries to make touch passes. He needs to throw those passes with more velocity to become proficient on the 18-yard dig and out route throws. He must do a better job of protecting the ball when he scrambles.

Draft status: Griffin will be the second overall pick by the Washington Redskins. As a fourth-year junior, Griffin made the right decision to come out early. He improved tremendously during his college career. As a result, he's an elite prospect with the tools to be an impact quarterback.

Many gush over his athleticism, playing speed and arm strength. But those physical skills are half the equation. Decision-making and unflappable pocket poise are traits that will enable Griffin to take advantage of his physical talent. Consequently, he will lead an NFL offense to a very high level.

Although Griffin must learn to play under center, this will not affect his future success. Griffin should secure the starting job as a rookie.

Griffin has often been compared to Cam Newton and Michael Vick. Griffin should be compared to Steve Young because of their athleticism and excellent passing skills coming out of college.
 
Griffin should be compared to Steve Young because of their athleticism and excellent passing skills coming out of college.
I originally made the Young comparison, but after watching more of Randall Cunningham I think it's more accurate. That's not to say he won't become as good of a passer as Young but he's not there yet (
).Fantasy-wise, I would take him over Luck.

 
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After big three, Weeden, Cousins in demand -- even with caveats

By Clark Judge | CBSSports.com Senior NFL Columnist

The first three quarterbacks in this year's draft are slam dunks, with two of them -- Stanford's Andrew Luck and Baylor's Robert Griffin III -- the top two players on the board. The third -- Texas A&M's Ryan Tannehill -- isn't close, but he is a wild card who could go as high as eighth to Miami.

But you knew that. My question is: Who's number four?

The popular choice is Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden, but I know at least two teams that don't share that conviction. One has Michigan State's Kirk Cousins ranked ahead of him; the other has Weeden in a flat-footed tie with a couple of others, including Cousins. A third team has them rated 4 and 4-A, with Weeden slightly ahead.

"We just think Weeden's a little bit better," that team's offensive coordinator said.

He's also a little bit older ... than Aaron Rodgers. Weeden, who pursued a pro baseball career, will turn 29 in October; Rodgers will turn 29 in December. It took Rodgers four seasons to crack the starting lineup. If it were to take Weeden that long, he would be 33, and we would be talking as much about the end of his career as the beginning.

But then the chances of him starting -- or winding up a starter -- aren't all that great, anyway. According to NFL Network's Mike Mayock, in the past eight drafts, there have been 23 quarterbacks chosen in the first round -- 15 of whom are starters, including the Packers' Rodgers. In rounds 2-7, there have been 82 taken. Seven are starters.

I don't think I need to draw you a picture. I understand Tom Brady was a sixth-round pick and Joe Montana a third, but they're the exceptions; the rule is that you're probably looking at a backup after the first round, and that's where Cousins will push Weeden.

"I think Cousins is more skilled with the ball," said one coach who has him ranked ahead of Weeden. "Weeden is more ready to play, and you're probably looking at 2-3 years before Cousins can step in there.

"But I like what I see. He can move better than Weeden, and he's really quick with the ball, with a short, compact delivery that's as good as anyone in this draft. If there's a problem, it's that he sometimes makes bad decisions; he sometimes tries to make too much happen."

What's attractive about both is that they were successful in major college football programs. Weeden last season led Oklahoma State to a 12-1 record that included a No. 3 ranking and a bowl defeat of Stanford and Andrew Luck. Cousins was 27-12 as a starter at Michigan State, including 22-5 the past two seasons, and was only the second three-time team captain in the school's history.

So who's first in line?

"It's not even close," said one GM I trust. "Weeden is a much better quarterback because his skill level is higher. When you're looking at Cousins you're looking at a backup quarterback. He's a great kid and a great teammate who will do everything he can to help his starting quarterback. But he's got a very average arm.

"That's not to say I don't have concerns about Weeden. I do, and they have to do with injuries. He was hurt as a baseball player and he's played with injuries in football. I don't know that it's something I'd worry about, but it seems like there are durability concerns ... or should be."

Then again, I don't know that there's all that much to worry about, period. Not now, at least. The fourth quarterback in this draft isn't in the same neighborhood as the other three and won't suffer similar expectations. Luck and Griffin are expected to start immediately and win eventually. Tannehill isn't a certainty, but more people than not will tell you he can play at the next level.

Then there's the guy in line, and take your pick. I don't care who it is, there are plenty of unanswered questions. Nevertheless, that won't stop someone for reaching for him. In fact, Mayock said he wouldn't be surprised if a club jumped into the bottom of the first round to take a flyer on Weeden -- a guy Mayock has ticketed near the top of the second.

"What's happening in this quarterback-driven league," he said, "is that we're getting a frenzy toward these top guys, and it's pushing value up. Most persons think Weeden or Cousins are third-round talents, but most people think they'll be drafted in the second round -- with Weeden the first to go. The reason: While the quarterback class is top heavy this year, it thins out quickly ... which means you better get one while you can."

A year ago, four quarterbacks were chosen in the draft's first 12 picks, and all wound up starting. This year, three could be. But it's that fourth guy who's the mystery. We think we know who it is, but we're not sure where he goes or what he'll be able to do.

And nobody else is, either.
 
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Bob McGinn's final top 100

By Bob McGinn of the Journal SentinelApril 24, 2012 11:21 p.m

The Journal Sentinel's Bob McGinn lists the first 100 players that he expects to be selected in the National Football League draft this week. (Note: last year McGinn won the national top 100 board contest.)

OFFENSE (50)

WIDE RECEIVERS (15) – Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State; Michael Floyd, Notre Dame; Kendall Wright, Baylor; Rueben Randle, Louisiana State; Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina; Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech; Mohamed Sanu, Rutgers; A.J. Jenkins, Illinois; Chris Givens, Wake Forest; Brian Quick, Appalachian State; Joe Adams, Arkansas; T.Y. Hilton, Florida International; Nick Toon, Wisconsin; Marv Jones, California; Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma.

TIGHT ENDS (3) – Coby Fleener, Stanford; Dwayne Allen, Clemson; Orson Charles, Georgia.

TACKLES (9) - Ryan Kalil, Southern California; Riley Reiff, Iowa; Mike Adams, Ohio State; Bobby Massie, Mississippi; Jonathan Martin, Stanford; Jeff Allen, Illinois; Mitchell Schwartz, California; Kelechi Osemele, Iowa State; Donald Stephenson, Oklahoma.

GUARDS (7) - David DeCastro, Stanford; Cordy Glenn, Georgia; Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin; Amini Silatolu, Midwestern State; Brandon Brooks, Miami (Ohio); Tony Bergstrom, Utah; Josh LeRibeus, Southern Methodist.

CENTERS (2) – Peter Konz, Wisconsin; Ben Jones, Georgia.

QUARTERBACKS (6) – Andrew Luck, Stanford; Robert Griffin III, Baylor; Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M; Kirk Cousins, Michigan State; Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State; Brock Osweiler, Arizona.

RUNNING BACKS (8) – Trent Richardson, Alabama; Doug Martin, Boise State; David Wilson, Virginia Tech; LaMichael James, Oregon; Lamar Miller, Miami; Robert Turbin, Utah State; Isaiah Pead, Cincinnati; Ronnie Hillman, San Diego State.

DEFENSE (50)

DEFENSIVE ENDS (10) - Quinton Coples, North Carolina; Whitney Mercilus, Illinois; Nick Perry, Southern California; Chandler Jones, Syracuse; Vinny Curry, Marshall; Tyrone Crawford, Boise State; Bruce Irvin, West Virginia; Billy Winn, Boise State; Jared Crick, Nebraska; Akiem Hicks, Regina (Canada).

DEFENSIVE TACKLES (11) – Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State; Michael Brockers, Louisiana State; Dontari Poe, Memphis; Jerel Worthy, Michigan State; Kendall Reyes, Connecticut; Devon Still, Penn State; Alamada Ta'amu, Washington; Mike Martin, Michigan; Brandon Thompson, Clemson; Derek Wolfe, Cincinnati; Loni Fangupo, Brigham Young.

INSIDE LINEBACKERS (6) – Luke Kuechly, Boston College; Dont'a Hightower, Alabama; Lavonte David, Nebraska; Mychal Kendricks, California; Bobby Wagner, Utah State; Sean Spence, Miami.

OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS (8) – Melvin Ingram, South Carolina; Courtney Upshaw, Alabama; Shea McClellin, Boise State; Andre Branch, Clemson; Zach Brown, North Carolina; Olivier Vernon, Miami; Ronnell Lewis, Oklahoma; Kyle Wilber, Wake Forest.

CORNERBACKS (12) – Morris Claiborne, Louisiana State; Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama; Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina; Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama; Josh Robinson, Central Florida; Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech; Trumaine Johnson, Montana; Dwight Bentley, Louisiana-Lafayette; Casey Hayward, Vanderbilt; Josh Norman, Coastal Carolina; Jamell Fleming, Oklahoma; Brandon Boykin, Georgia.

SAFETIES (3) – Mark Barron, Alabama; Hunter Smith, Notre Dame; Brandon Taylor, Louisiana State.
 
My Final Big Board -- The top 100 players of the 2012 NFL Draft

By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

For those reading my Big Board for the first time, let me explain what it is by first pointing out what it is not. The Big Board is not another mock draft. It is not a prediction of the order in which prospects will be drafted. It is a compilation of the 100 prospects in the 2012 draft class who have earned my highest grades.

I don't anticipate Stanford offensive guard David DeCastro getting picked within the top six selections Thursday, for example, but the road-grader who has earned comparisons to former All-Pros Steve Wisniewski and Steve Hutchinson certainly ranks among the draft's safest prospects - and thus a lofty ranking here. Furthermore, I don't necessarily believe that Wisconsin quarterback Russell Wilson will be selected among the top 100 prospects between Thursday's first round and Friday's second and third rounds... I just believe that in a few years his play in the NFL will prove that he should have been.

Mock drafts take into account team needs and attempt get inside the heads of NFL decision-makers. This list is much simpler. These are the best NFL prospects the 2012 draft has to offer.

1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford*: Due to his prototypical combination of size, arm strength, accuracy and intelligence, Luck's pro-readiness has often been compared to Peyton and Eli Manning. In reality, he's an even more impressive prospect than either of them due to his significantly better mobility and overall athleticism. For Luck to enjoy remotely close to the same success in the NFL as these two future Hall of Famers, he'll need the good fortunate of health and talent around him, but Luck is every bit as good as advertised and not only will be the first pick of the 2012 draft, he deserves to be.

2. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor*: In most years, Griffin would be the unquestioned No. 1 overall pick. He possesses a combination of straight-line speed and accuracy on the deep ball that has drawn comparisons to Eagles' star Michael Vick and frankly, RG3's leadership traits make him an ever safer pick than the No. 1 overall pick of the 2001 draft. Forget what Donovan McNabb says, Griffin is an ideal fit in the Washington Redskins' current offense under Mike and his son (and offensive coordinator) Kyle Shanahan's offense and with more talent around him, could enjoy more immediate success than Luck.

3. Matt Kalil, OT, Southern Cal*: Any doubts as to which of the top three junior offensive tackles would rise above the rest ended with an impressive all-around Combine effort from Kalil. He isn't an elite OT prospect in the mold of Joe Thomas or Jake Long but isn't far off.

4. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama*: Considering how the running back position has been de-valued in today's NFL it would be easy to rank Richardson lower. The reality is, however, Richardson's elite talent transcends trends. He is considered by some talent evaluators I trust to be the best player in the draft. While I clearly rank him a few spots lower, Richardson is an elite talent blessed with size, burst and incredible power who will make an immediate impact. He's also a reliable receiver out of the backfield and a terrific pass blocker, making him a true three-down threat.

5. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU*: As if a dominating 2011 season in which he was recognized as the nation's top defensive back with the Jim Thorpe Award didn't demonstrate his athleticism clearly enough, Claiborne erased any concerns about his straight-line speed by clocking in at 4.39 seconds in the 40-yard dash during his March 22 Pro Day. The bigger news was that Claiborne that came from the workout was that Claiborne had to undergo surgery on his wrist to repair a torn ligament, which is of more concern than reports of a low score on the Wonderlic test. The injury won't keep him from playing next season and neither should impact his draft stock.

6. David DeCastro, OG, Stanford*: In terms of consistent dominance, there hasn't been an offensive or defensive lineman I've graded higher thus far this season than DeCastro. Only the fact that he plays guard may keep him out of the top half of the first round.

7. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State*: Blackmon answered questions about his straight-line speed by running in the low 4.4s as part of an impressive showing at his March 9 Pro Day. Scouts had some reservations about his speed but certainly can't knock the two-time defending Biletnikof Award winner's production with the Cowboys.

8. Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State*: Cox didn't earn nearly the media attention for his spectacular Combine workout as Memphis' Dontari Poe but unlike the Tigers' star, the strength (30 repetitions of 225 pounds) and athleticism (4.79 seconds in the 40-yard dash) Cox showed in Indianapolis consistently shows up on tape. He's my top-rated defense tackle because of his scheme-versatility and the fact that he's the best pass-rusher of this year's top defensive tackles.

9. Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College*: Like Luck, it is easy to get caught up in the intangibles that Kuechly brings to the position but at the Combine he proved much faster and more explosive than most scouts had given him credit for. He finished second in the entire country in tackles as a true freshman in 2009 and led the nation in stops (both solo and total tackles) each of the past two seasons. Kuechly isn't flashy but he's a remarkably safe prospect who will operate as the quarterback of a defense for a decade.

10. Mark Barron, SS, Alabama: Instinctive, physical and a significantly more reliable open field tackler than he was earlier in his career, Barron has established himself as the unquestioned top safety of the 2012 draft. He was clocked at an impressive 4.51 seconds in the 40-yard dash at his March 29 Pro Day and excelled in positional drills, according to scouts in attendance.

11. Michael Brockers, DT, LSU*: Like his LSU teammates Claiborne and wide receiver Rueben Randle, Brockers significantly improved his workout results at his March 22 Pro Day after a Combine workout that, frankly, was disappointing. Brockers will likely be drafted within the top 20 picks of the 2012 draft not because of his current ability but because of the significant upside his frame, strength and versatility indicate he has.

12. Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina: While Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill has received all of the attention for his perceived jump up draft boards over the past month, in reality the fastest ascending prospect in the draft may be Gilmore. A lanky athlete whose athleticism and physicality make him a fit in either a press or zone scheme, Gilmore has overtaken Alabama's 'Dre Kirkpatrick as the clear-cut No. 2 cornerback in the draft, behind LSU's Morris Claiborne.

13. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame: In registering a 4.47 second 40-yard dash at 6-3, 220 pounds Floyd provided an emphatic answer to concerns about his size/speed combination. Floyd wasn't the consistent big play threat that Blackmon or Wright were in college but his game may project best to the NFL.

14. Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama: I will be the first to admit that Upshaw lacks the lateral agility teams are looking for in a coverage linebacker. However, due to his incredible power and refined hand technique, he's arguably the safest pass rusher in this year's draft. Some call him a 'tweener. I believe he can be successful as a 4-3 defensive end or as a 3-4 rush linebacker - and will prove it as a rookie.

15. 'Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama*: Kirkpatrick answered concerns about his speed at the Combine (4.51) but the greater test came in the interview rooms with scouts. Some NFL decision-makers were less than impressed with Kirkpatrick's answers, which could cause the lanky cornerback to slip a bit on draft day.

16. Melvin Ingram, DE/LB, South Carolina: Blessed with extraordinarily light feet for a 6-2, 276 pound man, Ingram's impressive agility made him a star at defensive tackle for the Gamecocks in 2011. As he proved at the Combine, his athleticism may be good enough, in fact, to make the transition to defensive end or even outside linebacker in the 3-4 in the NFL. That said, his short arms (31") will make him much easier to block at the NFL level and Ingram has struggled a bit with durability. Also, scouts would be wise to remember that Ingram started just 13 of the 51 games he played with the Gamecocks.

17. Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia: Measuring in at 6-5 and 346 pounds at the Senior Bowl, Glenn nonetheless demonstrated surprising agility in Mobile, boosting his chances at remaining at left tackle. While good outside, he was even better at left guard as a junior and may be best served moving back inside in the NFL. If he played with greater intensity Glenn could rank among the elite offensive line prospects in the 2012 draft.

18. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor: Say what you will about Wright's disappointing Combine workout, he proved his speed during his Pro Day workout and most importantly, was a consistent playmaker throughout his career.

19. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa*: Reiff was a standout left tackle for Iowa but after appearing at the Combine to be a bit less athletic (5.23 seconds in the 40) and weaker (22 reps at 225 pounds) with relatively short arms (33 1/4") some believe his NFL future lies inside at guard. That said, some were concerned about Joe Thomas' relatively short arms (32 1/2") but that hasn't stopped the former No. 3 overall pick from emerging as arguably the game's elite left tackle for the Cleveland Browns.

20. Dontari Poe, DT/NG, Memphis*: Producing a workout that has earned comparisons to that of Baltimore Ravens' star Haloti Ngata's when he left the University of Oregon, Poe's scheme-versatility and unbelievable upside have scouts excited. Poe isn't as explosive on tape as his eye-popping athleticism might lead you to believe, however, as he too often raises his pads on contact, negating his own strength. Someone will gamble on him early based on his upside, but Poe remains precisely that - a gamble.

21. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina: Let's be clear. Coples is not only the most physically gifted defensive lineman in the 2012 draft he's also the most talented senior prospect, regardless of position. At a shade under 6-6 and 281 pounds physically-speaking, he'll earn first round grades from scouts working for 3-4 and 4-3 clubs, alike. Coples has developed a me-first reputation, however, and doesn't play with enough snap to snap consistency to earn the top five grade from me that his talent obviously warrants despite the fact that he enjoyed a dominating week in Mobile, Alabama at the Senior Bowl.

22. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M: In terms of physical talent, there is no denying that Tannehill has the tools to warrant a first round pick. The 6-4, 225 pound quarterback has a strong arm, good touch and obviously rare athleticism for the position considering that he earned Honorable Mention All-Big 12 honors as a receiver in 2009 and was clocked at 4.61 during his March 29 Pro Day. More importantly, he again dazzled scouts with his arm talent. With just 19 career starts at quarterback, however, Tannehill is understandably lacking in the finer techniques of the position and, as such, may struggle if thrown into the fire as a rookie.

23. Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford: Despite the fact that he was still limited by the high right ankle sprain that kept him from participating in the Senior Bowl and the Combine, Fleener distanced himself from the other tight ends in the 2012 draft in approximately 4.45-4.50 seconds. Those are the times scouts had for the 6-6, 247 pound All-American at his March 22 Pro Day. Better yet, Fleener demonstrated quick feet, impressive body control and soft hands in pass catching drills. For NFL teams searching for the next Jimmy Graham or Rob Gronkowski, Fleener's the guy from this draft class.

24. Whitney Mercilus, DE/OLB, Illinois: Mercilus' staggering production (16 sacks, nine forced fumbles) at Illinois in 2011 was a function not only of his own talents but also an aggressive scheme that often gave him favorable matchups. While his statistics were inflated, the athleticism Mercilus demonstrated in workouts since this time argue that he has more upside than I've previously given him credit for. As one of several pass rushers capable of lining up at defensive end in the 4-3 or outside linebacker in the 3-4, I fully expect him to be drafted higher than my ranking indicates.

25. Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse: Were it not for a knee injury that robbed him of five games in 2011, Jones might compete for the top spot among defensive ends in this draft class. The 6-5, 266 pound Jones lacks the elite burst and flexibility to ever be a 10+ sack producer in the NFL but he boasts an impressive array of moves and is a high-effort player who shows up against the pass and run, alike.

26. Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State*: Worthy measured in a bit smaller (6-2, 308) than expected at the Combine and wasn't particularly impressive there in drills. He was much better at his Pro Day, however, and was the primary reason why the Spartans led the Big Ten in both run and total defense. I have some reservations about his snap to snap consistency but Worthy is a tough run-stuffing presence on the inside with uncommon burst to penetrate gaps and make plays behind the line of scrimmage.

27. Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford*: While each of the rest of Stanford's "Fantastic Four" prospects met or exceeded expectations at their March 22 Pro Day, Martin, frankly, was a disappointment. It is hard to argue with the success he's had protecting Luck's blindside over the past three seasons but demonstrating less athleticism than expected during drills, some have concerns that he doesn't possess the feet to remain at left tackle in the NFL. Worse, with just 20 repetitions in the bench press, some worry that Martin might struggle at right tackle. I'm moving him down my board but do still believe that he'll ultimately hear his name called in the first round.

28. Nick Perry, DE, Southern Cal*: As had been anticipated, Perry enjoyed one of the Combine's most impressive all-around performances showing speed (4.64), strength (35 reps) and explosiveness (38.5"). He led the Pac-12 with 9.5 sacks in 2011 and may just be scratching the surface of his potential.

29. Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State: McClellin made a name for himself as a terror off the edge for the Broncos (20.5 career sacks) but it wasn't until he made the move to outside linebacker at the Senior Bowl that his true versatility was shown. Possessing the athleticism, technique and work ethic necessary to be successful in any scheme, McClellin is quietly among the safer prospects in the 2012 draft.

30. Andre Branch, DE/OLB, Clemson: At 6-4, 270 pounds Branch has the size and athleticism to intrigue 4-3 and 3-4 teams, alike. He has great lateral agility, which allows him to change directions and run down ball-carriers toward the sidelines. Branch's tape is a bit inconsistent but there is no denying the burst and flexibility he possesses and that these traits project very well as an NFL pass rusher.

31. Doug Martin, RB, Boise State: Due to their greater straight-line speed, some will point to Miami's Lamar Miller or Virginia Tech's David Wilson as the back likely to follow Richardson. Martin, however, is a more natural runner, demonstrating the vision, lateral agility, balance and burst to be a feature back in the NFL.

32. Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama: Massive and instinctive, Hightower ranks as the top inside linebacker in the draft by some clubs - ahead of Kuechly due to the greater "pop" he'll provide as a run-plugger. Hightower is making a late charge up draft boards due to the fact that during film review scouts have noticed how much faster Hightower was in the second half of last season than the first - a sign that he's recovered fully from the torn ACL which ended his 2009 season after just four starts.

33. Rueben Randle, WR, LSU: Despite earning All-SEC accolades in 2011, Randle didn't post eye-popping numbers as a junior (53 catches for 973 yards and eight touchdowns). He's been a standout in the conference since signing as an extremely highly touted prep prospect and has made significant gains each year. Those who questioned his downfield speed after showing just ho-hum speed (4.55) were silenced when Randle was clocked in the low 4.4s on two attempts at the 40-yard dash at his March 22 Pro Day.

34. Bobby Massie, OT, Mississippi: The vast majority of the pre-draft hype regarding the 2012 offensive tackle class has focused on the talented trio of junior left tackles Matt Kalil (Southern California), Riley Reiff (Iowa) and Jonathan Martin (Stanford). Massie lacks the light feet to operate on the blindside, but he's the elite right tackle in his draft and is battle-tested, having started all three years of his career at right tackle against quality SEC competition.

35. Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall: Curry was every bit as productive against Conference USA talent as one might expect from a possible first round talent, recording an eye-popping 77 tackles, 22 tackles for loss, 11 sacks, seven forced fumbles and three blocked kicks as a senior. There is some question as to if the 6-3, 266 pound Curry has the agility and recognition to handle converting to outside linebacker in the 3-4 but if 4-3 teams are willing to overlook his less than ideal size, they'll certainly be happy with Curry's natural pass rush skills and high-revving motor.

36. Devon Still, DT, Penn State: Still's talent has been obvious throughout his career but until a breakout senior season in which he earned recognition as the Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year it simmered below the surface. Still's inability to play in the Senior Bowl (sprained toe) was disappointing and for some will re-energize concerns about his consistency and intrinsic motivation.

37. Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin: Stanford's David DeCastro gets what little attention an offensive guard is going to get in a draft as QB-heavy as this one, but Zeitler is a legitimate first round candidate in his own right. Durable, physical and technically-refined, he's an immediate NFL starter from a program well known for producing quality blockers.

38. Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut: Reyes has been a standout throughout his career with the Huskies but really boosted his stock with an impressive performance at the Senior Bowl. Demonstrating the quickness and power there to translate well as a defensive tackle in the 4-3 or as a defensive end in the 3-4 alignment, Reyes' versatility and intangibles (two-time team captain) stand out at a position considered one of the 2012 draft's most talented.

39. Lavonte David, OLB, Nebraska: Athletic, instinctive and incredibly productive, David is one of the relatively sure things of the 2012 draft. The problem is, at "just" 6-1, 233 pounds, the All-American is likely limited to only one role in the NFL -- the WILL or weakside linebacker position for a 4-3 team. That fact will likely push David into the second round, though I'm confident he'll quickly prove to be a standout.

40. Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson: At 6-2, 314 pounds, Thompson lacks the length and versatility of some of the other top-rated defensive linemen, but his squatty build and excellent power (35 reps) make him a quality run defender.

41. Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State: At 6-7 and 323 pounds, Adams certainly looks the part of an NFL offensive tackle. He's flashed the ability to dominate while playing left tackle for the Buckeyes and has the light feet and long arms to remain at this all-important position in the NFL. Inconsistency, injuries and poor off-field decisions have marred what should have been a noteworthy career at Ohio State and as such I have reservations that Adams' pro career, like his collegiate one, could leave his team wanting more.

42. Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska: A sprained knee and torn pectoral muscle limited Crick to just five games in 2011 but the 6-4, 279 pounder entered the season with first round grades from some scouts after having proven during an All-American campaign a year earlier (70 tackles, 17 tackles for loss, 9.5 sacks) that he wasn't just riding Ndamukong Suh's coat-tails. Crick isn't the fearful pass rusher than his statistics would indicate but does have the size, strength and tenacity that teams operating out of the 3-4 scheme are looking for at the five-technique defensive end position.

43. Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson: The 2011 Mackey Award winner as the nation's top tight end, Allen is actually a better all-around player than Stanford's Coby Fleener but at just 6-3, 255 pounds and possessing below average straight-line speed (4.89), he's more of a traditional tight end than the receiving specialists so en vogue in today's NFL. Allen won't out-run many NFL defensive backs to the end zone, but like former NFL standout Alge Crumpler, Allen should enjoy a long, productive career as a Do-Everything type.

44. Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State: At 6-4, 311 pounds and possessing the quick feet and nasty demeanor that every offensive line coach is looking for, Silatolu ranks as one of the most intriguing blockers of the 2012 draft class. Nonetheless, he's a significant projection who may need a year before he can be expected to contribute, as Silatolu's level of competition at the Division II level did him no favors. Silatolu also will be faced with the challenge of switching from left tackle to guard.

45. Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech: Boasting arguably the elite all-around workout of the 2012 Scouting Combine, Hill possesses an almost unheard combination of size (6-4, 215), straight-line speed (4.36) and explosiveness (11'01" broad jump). He's very much a work in progress as a route-runner and hands-catcher having come from a run-oriented offense while at Georgia Tech but deserves top 50 consideration on upside, alone.

46. Harrison Smith, SS, Notre Dame: Smith joins Alabama's Mark Barron as the only two traditional safeties I see as worthy of top 50 consideration. While not as smooth as the Alabama star in coverage, Smith is a reliable open-field tackler with excellent size (6-2, 213) and the instincts to make plays against both the run and pass.

47. David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech: Having rushed for a school-record 1,709 yards in his only season as Virginia Tech's starter, there is lot to like about Wilson. He's a tough runner who keeps his legs churning through contact and has true breakaway speed. He has only average vision, however, which leads to his dancing at the line of scrimmage too often and may need to be substituted early in his career on third down due to below average pass blocking skills, at this time.

48. Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia: The NFL is a sucker for proven pass rushers and, frankly, so am I. There are plenty of red-flags with Irvin, not the least of which is his rough upbringing and the fact that at this point he provides little other than his ability to harass quarterbacks. Other than quarterbacks, however, there isn't a position more valued in today's NFL than pass-rushers and Irvin - due to his explosive burst and lateral agility - just might be the most gifted of this year's class.

49. Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana: Draft enthusiasts know that North Alabama cornerback Janoris Jenkins has first round talent and may only slip out of the draft's initial frame due to off-field concerns. Montana's Johnson finds himself in a similar predicament. The 6-2, 204 pounder may lack elite speed (4.61) but he possesses enough of it, as well as the physicality and ball skills to prove a star in a press cover scheme. Johnson may not wind up hearing his name called in the top 50 on draft day, but if he can stay out of the trouble in the NFL, I believe he could quickly develop into a standout.

50. Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers: There are plenty of receivers in the 2012 draft with greater speed and natural playmaking ability than Sanu, but for my money few are safer NFL prospects than the former Rutgers star, who left the Big East as the career record holder with 210 career receptions despite entering the draft with a year of eligibility remaining. The 6-2, 211-pound Sanu has the bulk and physicality to play immediately at split end as well as move inside. That versatility will get him onto the field early in his career. His toughness and dedication will keep him there.

Rounding Out the Top 100

You can read more about these players by clicking on this link to NFLDraftScout.com's overall player rankings.

51. Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah State

52. Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State

53. Josh Robinson, CB, Central Florida

54. Tyrone Crawford, DE/OLB, Boise State

55. Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State

56. Kelechi Osemele, OT/OG, Iowa State

57. Brandon Boykin, CB/RS, Georgia

58. Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma

59. Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California

60. Peter Konz, OC/OG, Wisconsin

61. Mychal Kendricks, ILB, California

62. Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest

63. Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama

64. Juron Criner, WR, Arizona

65. Jeff Allen, OT, Illinois

66. Lamar Miller, RB, Miami

67. Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech

68. Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati

69. Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana-Lafayette

70. Brandon Brooks, OG, Miami (of Ohio)

71. Nigel Bradham, OLB, Florida State

72. A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois

73. Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina

74. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt

75. Ronnell Lewis, OLB, Oklahoma

76. Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina

77. Derek Wolfe, DL, Cincinnati

78. Sean Spence, OLB, Miami

79. Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State

80. Billy Winn, DL, Boise State

81. Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State

82. Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State

83. Mike Martin, DT, Michigan

84. Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn

85. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska

86. T.Y. Hilton, WR/RS, Florida International

87. Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State

88. Dwight Bentley, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette

89. Ryan Lindley, QB, San Diego State

90. LaMichael James, RB, Oregon

91. Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia

92. Ron Brooks, CB, LSU

93. Orson Charles, TE, Georgia

94. Trevin Wade, CB, Arizona

95. Demario Davis, OLB, Arkansas State

96. Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington

97. Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State

98. Brandon Hardin, CB/FS, Oregon State

99. Chris Polk, RB, Washington

100. Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
 
Just heard Jim Brown on ESPN Radio saying Trent Richardson is not a special RB. He doesn't have special size, speed or moves. -He said this whole RB class lacks specialness.

Interesting take.

 
Ray Rice doesn't have special size, speed, or moves either.

Trent is like a better version of Rice. Balance, agility, and power.

 
Ray Rice doesn't have special size, speed, or moves either.Trent is like a better version of Rice. Balance, agility, and power.
Yeah, fair point, imo. I like Richardson a ton. Just found Mr. Brown's take interesting, particularly given the backdrop of many experts saying Richardson is the best RB prospect since Peterson.
 
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Richardson, Griffin highlight fantasy's top rookies for '12

By Michael Fabiano NFL.com

Fantasy Editor

The 2012 NFL Draft is in the books (and what an amazing draft it was!), so we now have a number of brand-new potential fantasy impact makers to consider on draft day. Not surprisingly, many of those players are running backs and wide receivers. Of course, there are also a few first-year quarterbacks to consider in the pass-laden NFL. Here's our breakdown of the top 10 rookies in seasonal leagues, along with some other players to monitor in minicamps, training camp and the preseason.

Top 10

1. Trent Richardson, RB, Browns: Richardson is already the best player in the Browns' offense, and he'll be one of the few true featured backs in the NFL. In fact, I can see him getting 300 carries in coach Pat Shurmur's offense. With so many questions at running back heading into this season, Richardson should be considered a potential top-10 option at the position and worth a second- or third-rounder.

2. Robert Griffin III, QB, Redskins: If you expect RG3 to be the next Cam Newton from a fantasy perspective, you're going to be disappointed. But his combination of skills as a passer and more importantly, a runner, makes him someone to target in the middle rounds as a potential high-end No. 2 fantasy option with the upside to develop into a No. 1 starter. He's also a real dynasty-league gem.

3. Andrew Luck, QB, Colts: Luck has a ton of long-term potential and will be the first overall pick in countless dynasty leagues -- he clearly has all the tools to become a future fantasy star. However, I don't see him as more than a No. 2 fantasy quarterback and matchup-based starter in most seasonal formats for 2012. Look for him to come off the board somewhere in the middle to late rounds.

4. Doug Martin, RB, Buccaneers: Fantasy owners looking for a young runner to take a chance on in the middle rounds should look no further than Martin. A big-play back with three-down potential, I expect Martin to emerge past LeGarrette Blount and into the starting role for new coach Greg Schiano. He is a player to watch in fantasy and could develop into a borderline No. 2 or 3 fantasy runner.

5. Justin Blackmon, WR, Jaguars: The Jaguars clearly don't have much to write home about at the wide receiver spot aside from maybe Laurent Robinson (big maybe), so Blackmon should see more than his share of targets as a rookie. The downfall, of course, is that a good number of those targets will come from quarterback Blaine Gabbert. Still, Blackmon is worth a look in the middle to late rounds.

6. Coby Fleener, TE, Colts: Fantasy owners looking for a potential rookie sleeper at tight end should look no further than Fleener. A pure pass catcher out of Stanford, he'll be re-united with his collegiate quarterback, Andrew Luck, so there's no concern about lack of rapport. Fleener will be well worth a middle- to late-round look as a potential No. 2 fantasy tight end with upside.

7. Michael Floyd, WR, Cardinals: Floyd has some major potential at the NFL level, and playing opposite Larry Fitzgerald will be an advantage during his rookie campaign. However, I wonder how consistent he'll be statistically in an offense with a star wideout, Early Doucet and Andre Roberts. Kevin Kolb is also a question mark at quarterback. Overall, Floyd has middle- to late-round draft appeal.

8. David Wilson, RB, Giants: Ahmad Bradshaw remains the Giants' top runner, but Wilson will no doubt put at least a small dent into Bradshaw's backfield touches. Considering Bradshaw's foot and ankle issues in recent seasons, Wilson could make some fantasy noise as a rookie. The former Hokie has middle- to late-round appeal and will be a top-notch handcuff for owners who land Bradshaw.

9. Alshon Jeffery, WR, Bears: With Johnny Knox's (back surgery) status for next season in serious question, Jeffery has a legitimate chance to start opposite Brandon Marshall in his first NFL season. While there has been some concern about his weight after a disappointing final collegiate season, Jeffery could have some late-round flier value in deeper fantasy leagues as a starter.

10. Brian Quick, WR, Rams: Quick, a 6-foot-4, 220-pound receiver out of Appalachian State, is a former basketball standout who should have a chance to see a prominent role in St. Louis right out of the gate. He's a player to watch in training camp, especially in an offense that doesn't have a true No. 1 wideout on its roster. In a best-case scenario, Quick could be worth a late-round flier in drafts.

Rookies on the radar

1. Stephen Hill, WR, Jets: The Jets don't have much at wide receiver after Santonio Holmes, so Hill is in a good spot from an opportunities perspective. But despite his long-term upside, the Georgia Tech product could need a season of pro experience before he makes an impact in fantasy leagues. If he actually wins a starting role, however, Hill could be worth as much as a late-round flier in 2012.

2. Kendall Wright, WR, Titans: Wright is a potentially explosive wideout for the Titans and could push for the third spot on the depth chart. However, will he see enough targets in a run-based offense that already includes Kenny Britt, Nate Washington, Damian Williams and Jared Cook? I don't think so. In seasonal fantasy formats, the Baylor product is worth no more than a late-round flier.

3. Rueben Randle, WR, Giants: With Mario Manningham now in San Francisco, Randle will have a legitimate chance to earn the third spot on the Giants depth chart during training camp. With that said, he will have to beat out Ramses Barden and Jerrel Jernigan before fantasy owners should even consider him with a late-round flier. Even in that scenario, Randle's value will be limited to the late rounds.

4. Mohamed Sanu, WR, Bengals: Jerome Simpson and Andre Caldwell are gone, so Sanu has some upside based on the potential to earn a starting role with his new team. Compared to former Bengals wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Sanu is a possession receiver with good size who could slide right into the pass attack. He'll have some late-round draft appeal.

5. LaMichael James, RB, 49ers: The 49ers have ridiculous backfield depth behind Frank Gore, as Kendall Hunter, Brandon Jacobs and James are all in the mix. The Oregon product is a Darren Sproles-type runner and could be a change-of-pace option for coach Jim Harbaugh. If James earns a prominent role, including some goal-line work, he'll have some PPR draft value.
 
Tannehill, Pead have fantasy dynasty-league appeal in '12

By Michael Fabiano NFL.com

Fantasy Editor

If you have played fantasy football in the past, you know that sometimes the big-name rookies aren't the ones who always produce in their first year at the pro level (Mark Ingram, anyone?). Instead, some legitimate fantasy options come from deeper in the NFL draft. Since we've already covered the top options, now it's time to do some serious digging for deep leaguers and owners in dynasty leagues with some names to remember when it comes time to draft your team this summer.

Ryan Tannehill, QB, Dolphins: Who has received more attention in the last week -- Tannehill, or his wife? Regardless, the Texas A&M product isn't likely to make a fantasy impact as a rookie with Matt Moore and David Garrard also in the mix. That makes him more of a dynasty-league option in fantasy land. The presence of his former Aggies coach, Miami OC Mike Sherman, is clearly a positive.

Brandon Weeden, QB, Browns: There has been rampant talk of a Colt McCoy trade, so I expect Weeden to be under center for the Browns in Week 1. That gives him a sliver of seasonal value in deeper leagues. The 28-year old will have more value in dynasty formats, however, as the Browns don't have the level of talent around him in the pass attack that will make him a potential 2012 sleeper.



Brock Osweiler, QB, Broncos: We have a quarterback controversy in Denver! OK, not really. Osweiler is a long-term project and the potential replacement for Peyton Manning at some point in the future, so his fantasy appeal is strictly limited to dynasty leagues. Of course, the trend of second-round quarterbacks failing to produce is something to consider before considering him in drafts.

Kirk Cousins, QB, Redskins: Clearly, Cousins is not going to compete for a starting role in Washington with Robert Griffin III in the picture. However, there have been reports that the Skins could look to "flip" him at some point in the future as part of a trade with a quarterback-needy team. His seasonal value is basically null and void, but Cousins could have some appeal down the line.

Isaiah Pead, RB, Rams: Pead, compared to Jamaal Charles by NFL Films expert Greg Cosell, will come in and become a change-of-pace back for Steven Jackson. The Cincinnati product is also the favorite to be Jackson's handcuff in fantasy land, not to mention his eventual successor. That makes Pead worth a late-round look in seasonal leagues and an interesting option in dynasty formats.

Ronnie Hillman, RB, Broncos: Hillman, a change-of-pace option out of San Diego State, will struggle to pass Knowshon Moreno and Lance Ball on the depth chart behind incumbent starter Willis McGahee. With that said, McGahee is turning 31 in October and Moreno has been a colossal bust at the NFL level. That makes Hillman someone to consider as a potential long-term fantasy option.

Bernard Pierce, RB, Ravens: With Ricky Williams out of the mix and no clear-cut No. 2 running back on the roster, Pierce could have the inside track on the second spot on the depth chart behind Ray Rice. That could make him a potential fantasy handcuff in all seasonal formats. Rice, 25, isn't going to give up his starting role anytime soon, however, so Pierce's stock is limited.



Lamar Miller, RB, Dolphins: Miller's stock took a tumble in the draft, and landing in Miami isn't going to make him attractive in seasonal fantasy formats. In fact, he's more of a dynasty-league option with Reggie Bush and Daniel Thomas ahead of him on the depth chart. Bush is a free agent in 2013, however, so Thomas and Miller could be the Fins future backfield combination.

Robert Turbin, RB, Seahawks: The 2011 WAC Offensive Player of the Year, Turbin rushed for 1,517 yards and 19 touchdowns in his final collegiate year. He also ran a solid 40-time (4.48) at the Combine and will quickly be in the mix to serve as Marshawn Lynch's immediate backup. That gives him some value in seasonal formats, but Turbin's stock will be greater in dynasty leagues.

Chris Rainey, RB, Steelers: With Rashard Mendenhall's (ACL surgery) status for the start of the 2012 season in question, any running back added to the Steelers roster should at least be mentioned in fantasy chatter. Enter Rainey, who was a home-run hitter in college and could turn into a versatile option for OC Todd Haley. Still, he'll need to make some noise to have much appeal.

Vick Ballard, RB, Colts: As it stands, the Colts backfield depth chart is led by the unimpressive duo of Donald Brown and Delone Carter. So unless the team adds a veteran free agent into the mix, Ballard could push for carries if he's impressive in training camp and the preseason. Brown is also a free agent after the 2013 season, so Ballard could have some long-term potential.



A.J. Jenkins, WR, 49ers: Some considered it a surprise that Jenkins came off the board in the first round, and he'll be hard pressed to make an immediate fantasy impact with Michael Crabtree, Randy Moss, Mario Manningham and Vernon Davis all in the 49ers pass attack. Keep in mind, though, that Jenkins still has plenty of dynasty appeal and is an interesting future option.

Ryan Broyles, WR, Lions: The Lions are loaded at wide receiver, so Broyles was more of a luxury selection. He's coming off a torn ACL suffered back in November as well, so he could be hard-pressed to make much of an impact during his rookie season. That is, as long as Calvin Johnson isn't the next victim of the dreaded Madden curse. Broyles is more of a dynasty choice.

Devier Posey, WR, Texans: The Texans could attempt to trade Jacoby Jones, which would open the third spot on the depth chart for Posey. The team also selected Keshawn Martin out of Michigan State, however, so Posey will need to earn his role during training camp. Regardless, neither wideout has a ton of seasonal appeal -- unless Andre Johnson's recent injury woes continue.

T.J. Graham, WR, Bills: Graham is a burner who figures to fill the role vacated by Roscoe Parrish as a return man on special teams. He'll also be considered a potential vertical option in the pass attack, which the Bills have lacked since the departure of Lee Evans. So while Graham doesn't figure to make much fantasy impact as a rookie, he could have some long-term appeal.

T.Y. Hilton, WR, Colts: A blazer who could turn into a slot option in the Colts' pass attack, Hilton is another weapon for Luck. However, the Florida International product could enter camp no higher than fourth on the depth chart behind Reggie Wayne, Austin Collie and Donnie Avery. When you also factor in the presence of Coby Fleener, Hilton is clearly more of a dynasty option.

Chris Givens, WR, Rams: The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that rookies Brian Quick and Givens are the favorites to start at wide receiver for the Rams in 2012, so both will clearly have a degree of value in seasonal formats. Keep in mind, though, that coach Jeff Fisher never had a truly elite fantasy wide receiver during his long tenure with the Tennessee Titans.



Dwayne Allen, TE, Colts: The Colts landed two tight ends, Coby Fleener and Allen, as the overhaul of their offense continued. And considering the NFL has become a copycat league, it's possible that the team is going in the same offensive direction as the Patriots. Allen is a pass catcher, but it's hard to project him as a viable fantasy option in the majority of seasonal formats.

Michael Egnew, TE, Dolphins: A converted wide receiver that turned heads at the combine, Egnew is an athletic player coming out of Missouri's spread offense. The Dolphins lack playmakers in the pass attack, but it's still tough to envision a scenario where Egnew makes enough noise in training camp to have seasonal value in 2012. He's more of a potential dynasty leaguer.



Adrien Robinson, TE, Giants: When looking at rookies, we always examine opportunities. That's the reason Robinson is at least worth mentioning from a fantasy perspective. With Jake Ballard and Travis Beckum both coming off ACL injuries, he could be someone to watch behind projected starter Martellus Bennett. Still, Robinson is mostly a dynasty-league option for 2012.
 

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