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No. I'm with you. On top of being a #####, he'll suck balls.....maybe not Ryan Leaf balls, but balls nonetheless.
Why are you guys always coming up with new ####? I'm trying to keep up. With ST dying, I can't follow along very well.Edit: On-topic, see my previous post.
It's not even a month old so I'll hang on to it a while more.
Anti-Eli? How about this thread being a response to everyone being all over his jock just because he is Peyton's brother?Seriously.. was his career at Ole Miss THAT great?
I don't know for sure....... But I can see a possible Rob Johnson career on the horizon.
That's true. I do think his arm is NFL material, but it's what's going on (or not going on) upstairs that I'm questioning. Doesn't look nearly as poised as Peyton is. I think people are way too quick in sports to assume family perform similarly. What did Ozzie Canseco get for his AL title ring on eBay?
Only with more sacks.
I don't believe that he would have been selected before Palmer or Leftwich.
many scouts had Roethlisberger or Rivers rated ahead of Manning.Terry Bradshaw was quoted as saying he liked Losman and Rivers more than Manning.Eli is not the LOCK that many people think he is. Peyton was much better coming out of college, IMO.I do expect him to have a successful career, but it wouldn't shock me if he flopped early on.
The last guy that got this much hype was a guy named Jeff George. He had the strong arm and the accuracy too.I think it would be a good idea if we projected how we think Eli will perform this season rather than just say he'll be great or he's over-rated. These terms mean so many things to different people. My guess would be something close to 3500+ yards / 28 TDs / 30 INTs / 5-7 winsConsidering what they gave up to get him I think that's underperforming but still would be a solid performence. People tend to hammer home the fact the NYG's OL is pretty bad(including myself) but he has much better skill position players to work with than Peyton, Akili, Couch, Dilfer, Shuler, etc had coming into the league. The real possiblity of a complete flame out comes from the NY media/fans. If Archie jumps to the defense of his son that will just be more gasoline on the fire and bulid on the perception that he's been hiding behind his father. I have a feeling the golden boy and his meddling father routine isn't going to go over well in the big apple. It would be best for Eli if he just played the games, took his lumps, and Archie/Peyton butted out. Even in this worst case scenario I really think Eli will be no worse than a solid QB in the NFL, even if he has to leave NY for that to happen. Nobody can be sure which QB in this class will ultimately live up to their draft position but you'd have to think Eli is starting the furthest in the hole because of all the draft picks the NYG gave up to get him. The NY media/fans certainly aren't going to forget them and will expect some unreal stats to make Eli woth the price paid to get him. How do the rest of you project Eli will perform this season stat wise?
has a rookie QB ever thrown 28 TDs before?Yeah, it does sound high but there haven't been all that many QB's that were given week #1 starting jobs. Of that small group I would guess few if any had receivers as good as Shockey/Toomer/Hilliard/Barber.
not unless he is traded---which we know can't happenthese New York football Giants are a bunch of misfits and malcontents, as constructed...they lacked the disipline to finish off division rivals DAL and PHILLY early last year, then went on the finish the 2nd half of the season a stellar 0-8 which, of course, got the coach tossedwhen faced with a tougher coach this offseason, thay've filed a grievance w/the players association, complaining practice is too hard...give me a fu@k*n' breakEli will have a long road to hoe...as a fan of big Blue---I wish him luck
??????It's pretty apparent from these boards that most people feel that Eli is going to be a complete bust...
IMHO, he will flop. I hope he does after that bulls### he pulled at the draft. Fact of the matter is, the kid has alot of talent. 
Would it? I know Peyton had some pretty good stats his rookie season 3700+/26/28 and only had a passer rating of 71. Let me make it clear I expect Eli's qb rating to be below 70, which in my opinion isn't a very good performence for someone you just gave up possibly two top 5 picks in the first, a high third, and a high fifith. I don't think people realize just how many INT's 30 is. I think there's a real solid chance Eli approaches that # this season. Dan Marino had a QB rating of 96 his rookie season(2,200+/20/6) in only 9 starts. Just for the sake of displaying how good those stats are for 9 starts if you project those over 16 starts you are looking at 3900+/35/11. I'm just using that to show how amazing those stats are over 9 games, not to insinuate Marino would have gotten those stats had he started all 16 games. But this is what I mean, to me that is underperforming considering what it cost to get him. So NOBODY ELSE is willing to give a stab at what #'s he'll get next season?You think that's underperforming?That would be the best rookie QB season ever.
It's row to hoe! Man, even Theisman gets his platitudes straight! Anyway, I think Eli is set up for failure in New York.
I agree with all your points except #3. Do you honestly think you can name 15 teams that have receivers as good or better than Shockey/Toomer/Hilliard/Barber? I can't.
