MDSkinner said:
Rove! said:
MDSkinner said:
Soulfly3 said:
Point to the shirt. Original guys.
Except that my excuse comes from $30 spent for someone to tell me who to start. Here on out Id rather pay nothing and roll some dice or ask my girlfriend who doesn't know the name of one NFL team to pick a player.
I mean, if on average all these top "pros" only hit between 50-60%, Im not impressed.
I lost this week. officially. by 4 points. Marlon Brown wins me my week, and I remain in first place.
Now Im at the office getting looks from my leaguemates, while they think "who the #### starts Ginn over Marlon"?
This explains why you were in first place. In my league prior to this week Ginn had outscored Marlon Brown by almost 20 points in my league. Starting Ginn over Brown prior to this week was the smart thing to do overall. This week Brown had a much bigger week and now the two are almost dead even on the year but heading into this week Ginn was the smarter choice. If you don't see that, then you clearly should try a different hobby.
lazy analysis
Fair enough. How do you analyze it? And do you see it that Ginn was so much worse of a choice heading into this week than Marlon Brown. To me it is much lazier to say that Brown scored more points this week, so obviously he was the correct choice than it is to look at how they have played through the year overall (given the 9 data points) and see that one had outscored the other by roughly 2 points a game. But clearly there is much deeper analysis that can be done, like matchups, history against opponents, QB play, etc.. Offer up something better, but either way Ginn being ranked above Brown this week is at worst arguable.
Well, Brown is more talented and receives more targets. Where are you getting that Ginn had outscored Brown prior to this week? That's the definition of lazy analysis, because Brown missed a game due to injury. On a PPG basis, Brown was outscoring Ginn by almost 1 PPG through week 8. Which isn't much but it's a big 3 PPG swing from what you claimed.
Brown is a better, more complete WR and it was pretty predictable that he'd be targeted a bunch this week with Haden locking down Smith across from him. Ginn is the definition of hit or miss--no matter what their raw total points scored or even PPG say,
half of Ginn's games have been under 5 points. In PPR. That's not a guy you want in your lineup just hoping he catches a bomb. Brown has been much more consistent.
Brown was the obvious start.
Your analysis is good and perhaps my data is bad due to my own league settings. However going into this week in my league they had scored the followingGinn - 7 games/72.42 points/10.3 per game
Brown - 6 games/ 54.6 points/9.1 per game
And then this week, they produced the following points in this same league.
Ginn this week - 3.46 points
Brown this week - 21.9 points
So as mentioned, going into this week it was really not so black and white, at least in terms of how they produced this year. Perhaps my league scoring changes things (.5 PPR, some points for return yards, though minimal).
In terms of talent, I will take your word for it. But heading into this week, on an overall or a per game basis it was not obvious from my perspective.