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Housh signs with Ravens! (1 Viewer)
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Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
So who to downgrade? Mason, Boldin or both?
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Footballguy
With every day that passes, I feel better and better about projecting Ray Rice for 40 or fewer receptions.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
Housch was cut for a reason. I wouldn't go crazy downgrading anybody. Maybe Mason a BIT, but not by a lot.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
What does this do to Mason? I know they're different types of receiver, but still
MAC_32
Footballguy
Mason's dirt cheap, unless the Housh signing is because Mason's hurt he is fine.Boldin's been over rated all along, but yes, he's downgraded.
Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
Downgrade Mason next year.
The Dynasty
Footballguy
Flacco shoots up.
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Footballguy
I don't think you can downgrade Mason much in terms of draft/auction value, since he was already dirt cheap. But it's certainly him whose stats I'd downgrade. They didn't spend big money on Boldin to do anything but have him become Flacco's #1 guy. Housh and Boldin is a much more formidable WR tandem than Mason and Boldin, and Housh should thrive again now that he gets to be opposite a guy who will take #1 WR pressure off him. I expect respectable WR2 #'s out of Housh over the 2nd half of the season.
I think this is a positive on Rice's value.
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Footballguy
And once again, since as of the last Steeler preseason game, Willie Gay looks like he may be our most competent CB2, I fear more and more for our chances in the division. Great offseason by the Ravens. 
renesauz
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Clayton becomes completely useless and any hope of a resurgance from Donte Stallworth is gone. Housh MAY cut into Mason's production slightly, but I doubt it.
I don't think this has much impact on any SIGNIFICANT players value, other then Houshmandzadeh's. Anyone counting on Housh as a WR3 in June is kicking themselves now.
I don't think this has much impact on any SIGNIFICANT players value, other then Houshmandzadeh's. Anyone counting on Housh as a WR3 in June is kicking themselves now.
billyjohnson
Footballguy
Wow...we've made it 15 posts without someone saying to bump Finley!!
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Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
What I see here is the team continuing/furthering their change in fundamental offensive approach.
The Ravens have really been focused on Def and running for the past decade or more, and that has worked for them for the most part. But they are really starting to shift gears. After essentially ignoring the WR position forever, they go out and and get two big name WRs this off-season PLUS a couple of pass-catching tight ends in the draft.
They already threw a lot more than usual last year. With Flacco continuing to develop and all of the acquisitions (not to mention the fact that the defense isn't as dominant as it once was), that trend could continue.
I think Flacco could really be a guy to target. Not necessarily because of TJ (who is marginal I think in terms of impact), but just because the team seems to be SERIOUS about changing their identity.
The Ravens have really been focused on Def and running for the past decade or more, and that has worked for them for the most part. But they are really starting to shift gears. After essentially ignoring the WR position forever, they go out and and get two big name WRs this off-season PLUS a couple of pass-catching tight ends in the draft.
They already threw a lot more than usual last year. With Flacco continuing to develop and all of the acquisitions (not to mention the fact that the defense isn't as dominant as it once was), that trend could continue.
I think Flacco could really be a guy to target. Not necessarily because of TJ (who is marginal I think in terms of impact), but just because the team seems to be SERIOUS about changing their identity.
thehornet
Footballguy
prob a few receptions, but not enough to frop him in a draft or auction.
mulliganman
Footballguy
Curious what everyone is expecting number wise for Housh now.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
I agree with this.TJ was a mistake when the Hawks signed him thinking of him as a go to guy. But I think he still has the skills to be a REALLY good possession/2 guy, if he can keep his head down and ego in check.And good, competent role player a contender adds is big news. And I think people are going to underestimate his likely contribution.
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Footballguy
I think he fits in the offense seamlessly, and becomes a great pickup for them. It'll take time, but I can easily see 5/60/0.5 type numbers over the 2nd half of the year.
duaneok66
Footballguy
Dynasty owner of Housh here . . .
what I can't figure is why Housh picked the Ravens . . . look at all the mouths to feed - the only way I can see him going there is if they handed him a starting gig on a silver platter - otherwise it was a mistake by Housh . . .other teams made more sense . . .
what I can't figure is why Housh picked the Ravens . . . look at all the mouths to feed - the only way I can see him going there is if they handed him a starting gig on a silver platter - otherwise it was a mistake by Housh . . .other teams made more sense . . .
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David Yudkin
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Maybe because he wants to win?
comfortably numb
Footballguy
What teams do you know of that he turned down?
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Footballguy
Any bad blood with the Bengals there? Could be a factor as well...
I agree with this.TJ was a mistake when the Hawks signed him thinking of him as a go to guy. But I think he still has the skills to be a REALLY good possession/2 guy, if he can keep his head down and ego in check.And good, competent role player a contender adds is big news. And I think people are going to underestimate his likely contribution.
switz
Footballguy
Ummm ... Are you on something?No one should be downgraded, and Boldin is one of the best WRs in the NFL, and was before Fitz was even in the NFL.
SMH
duaneok66
Footballguy
I don't know what he did over the last 48 hours - but a guy with his profile and contract provisions (Seattle is on the hook for 7mil - the difference of the contract with the new team) . . . but you have to figure that the Redskins should have been interested - even the Raiders are a better fit - the Browns and Vikings werent interested, but even a place like San Francisco or St Louis would have been better . . . Bradford has NO ONE out wide - Housh could have been his safety blanket until they draft a real receiver . . . just my thoughts . . .
mulliganman
Footballguy
duaneok66
Footballguy
I've followed TJ since I picked him up in a league in 2004 (right before he blew up) . . . even though he is a very good WR< he has never expressed a desire to win over getting the ball - never . . .
He still gets the Seahawk 7 mil and gets to play on a contender. Plus he doesn't twist in the wind for weeks on end while his leverage dwindles.
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I believe he just did.
thehornet
Footballguy
too bad you cant delete this statement anymore.
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I think this is an easy one. Last time Housh admittedly (and openly) went for the highest bidder for his last "big" kt. Now he's nearing the end of the line and wants to play with a serious Superbowl contender for a ring. That progression of motivations seems pretty common for these guys.
bocksheesh
Footballguy
This is a big bump up for Flacco. A solid veteran possession WR only. Helps Flacco's ability to keep drives alive and increases his opportunity for red zone passing. Big for Flacco!
Also think it speaks to a somewhat unspoken reality about the Ravens D - it is significantly diminished, particularly in it's secondary. I think the Ravens are anticipating the need to score more and potentially play more from behind.
Times they are a changing in Bahlmore.
Also think it speaks to a somewhat unspoken reality about the Ravens D - it is significantly diminished, particularly in it's secondary. I think the Ravens are anticipating the need to score more and potentially play more from behind.
Times they are a changing in Bahlmore.
duaneok66
Footballguy
maybe - I'd like to hear him say it so I will be watching tonight to see if he is interviewed . . .meanwhile, does everyone think that TJ will be the #2, or will the ageless Mason keep him on the bench??
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
I do think Housh probably had a lot of options considering he's being paid by another team and didn't need a big salary. However, I can't think of too many decent teams that were going to give him a guaranteed starter's position. It's not like Seattle is rolling in proven WR talent, and he couldn't get a starting gig there.I guess he could have gone to Cleveland or Buffalo or somewhere like that, but why? Baltimore mad as much sense as anywhere with a good team, a good young QB, and a talented but ancient #2 receiver who's slot he can comfortably slide into over time.
Resident A
Footballguy
Am I the only one who thinks this move renders Housh WW fodder?
I drafted Housh late hoping he'd go to Washington or somewhere he could put up numbers. Baltimore is just as bad as if he'd gone to Minnesota. They aren't just gonna relegate Mason to spot duty after all he's done for that team. I fear Housh is a WR5 for FF purposes. I'll give it a week or 2, but I'm guessing he'll be dropped after Week 2 for somebody with more opportunity/targets.
I drafted Housh late hoping he'd go to Washington or somewhere he could put up numbers. Baltimore is just as bad as if he'd gone to Minnesota. They aren't just gonna relegate Mason to spot duty after all he's done for that team. I fear Housh is a WR5 for FF purposes. I'll give it a week or 2, but I'm guessing he'll be dropped after Week 2 for somebody with more opportunity/targets.
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grouse
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Totally agree. Boldin's value is unchanged. Also, Housh can not just walk onto a team 6 days before opening kickoff and make an immediate impact. Housh was likely signed as Stallworth insurance in the event his broken foot is slow to heal or if Stallworth decides to go for another late-night drive.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Downgrade both Mason and Boldin, I would say Boldin more then anyone, as he will have to give up a good number of looks to Housh and Mason.Great deal for the Ravens, perfect place for Housh.
duaneok66
Footballguy
a guy like TJ will be whining if he's the #3 - he started last year for SEA and he wias still complaining about not seeing the ball - and NOW he's just happy to be on a contender??? A year later??? I don't see it . . .
switz
Footballguy
Him = Housh, or Boldin?I see Housh as nothing but a FF #5 or so. Flacco is already more comfortable with the other WRs, Housh has to learn the offense, most WRs typically struggle in their first year on a new team.., so, barring an injury that opens the door for him, I don't think he'll show much this year.
Next year he may be a better option than Mason.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
I agree completely. And after he's dropped, I intend to pick him up and stash him till he invariably unseats Mason. Housh is ten times the football player Mason is, and Mason, ever the good team player, will thrive as a WR3 entering the endgame of his career. Talent will win out as the playoff run takes shape.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
He's now a WR3 on a superbowl contender. Mason is a prime candidate for injury given his age and aggressive play style. In leagues that start 3 WRs, he's a quality player. Gone are the days where one could hope that TJ is a WR1, but he's a solid WR3 with WR2 upside.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
And he was also signed for a reason. And that reason is "Derrick Mason is very old and very slow".
duaneok66
Footballguy
so I assume you think that TJ is a #2 on the Ravens - when do you think that this will occur???
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Ummm...no. Mason is a far better WR than Houshmazilly. If Mason had played his career somewhere other than Baltimore, he would have better TD numbers, at least based on the Ravens games I've watched.
duaneok66
Footballguy
I am stupid - I just reread your post . . . I see now that you think that Mason is better . . .
