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I'm starting Johnathan Dwyer over_________ (2 Viewers)
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zamboni
Footballguy
Hard to get excited over Dwyer, but when you consider Bell seems weeks away and his competition is the mediocre Redman (who fumbled his way onto the bench last week) and Felix Jones (whose missed blocking assignment put him on the bench alongside Redman), it's not the most difficult path to getting the majority of carries.
cstu
Footballguy
I'm not falling for it again. He couldn't get motivated with a $1.3M contract but he's supposed to be motivated now for half that? I don't care if he says he's a changed person, I don't believe it.
zamboni
Footballguy
I'd like to think that being thrown out on the street humbles you, as it has for the millions of regular working stiffs. But yeah, I don't see it happening either for him. Just strikes me as a guy that doesn't want to work for a golden opportunity.
If only the majority of carries translated into prodution on this offense....
But opportunity is opportunity...
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Going back and forth on dropping Hillman for Dwyer. I doubt at this point Hillman can usurp Moreno's role, but I sort of want to give it 1 more week. On the other hand, I dont expect Dwyer to have success against a good Cincy D, but if he even gets close to the majority of the carries he will get picked up next week in all likelihood in my PIT homer league.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Just because Felix is going to get touches doesn't mean that he is FF usefull. Dwyer is taking snaps with #1s. Great. I still don't want him. STILL the only FF worthy RB in Pitt is Bell - and you probably won't be able to use him for a few weeks.None. I don't have any of them.Which one of them did you start?
I stand by statement that all are FF useless until L. Bell is back - and then he is, only if he is healthy.
I just like to point out when people talk authoritatively on a subject that they know nothing about so they don't deceive others. Do you still stand by your statement that it looks like Felix until Bell is back?
My statement about Felix was after they had cut Dwyer, so forgive me for presuming that a guy that they just cut wasn't going to start over the guy they signed in the offseason - and kept instead. The point was that Redman wasn't going to be the man - he clearly still isn't. Dwyer might get the nod - but he can stay on waivers in FF leagues that aren't 16 teamers with 25+ deep rosters.
Bell is more talented than the other 3 - which ever of the other 3 you prefer. My point, for virtually the last month and half, has been (despite your best attempts to paint it some other way for some reason) that the only Steeler RB worth having in a standard league (10-12 teams with 22-24 person rosters) is Bell - and only from week 6 on.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Commons sense
The very easy and obvious presumption would've been that Redman was going to get the snaps until Bell was back, so I had to point out that no, the player they just acquired on the cheap was NOT going to be the guy until Bell returns. It was a ridiculous statement and his total lack of touches in week 1 proved it.Just because Felix is going to get touches doesn't mean that he is FF usefull. Dwyer is taking snaps with #1s. Great. I still don't want him. STILL the only FF worthy RB in Pitt is Bell - and you probably won't be able to use him for a few weeks.None. I don't have any of them.Which one of them did you start?
I stand by statement that all are FF useless until L. Bell is back - and then he is, only if he is healthy.
I just like to point out when people talk authoritatively on a subject that they know nothing about so they don't deceive others. Do you still stand by your statement that it looks like Felix until Bell is back?
My statement about Felix was after they had cut Dwyer, so forgive me for presuming that a guy that they just cut wasn't going to start over the guy they signed in the offseason - and kept instead. The point was that Redman wasn't going to be the man - he clearly still isn't. Dwyer might get the nod - but he can stay on waivers in FF leagues that aren't 16 teamers with 25+ deep rosters.
Bell is more talented than the other 3 - which ever of the other 3 you prefer. My point, for virtually the last month and half, has been (despite your best attempts to paint it some other way for some reason) that the only Steeler RB worth having in a standard league (10-12 teams with 22-24 person rosters) is Bell - and only from week 6 on.
FWIW, I am avoiding the situation entirely, including Bell. I was before Pouncey's injury and certainly want no part of it after that. This is a dismal situation. But if anyone happened to need to start a Pit RB, I felt obligated to let others know that it was definitely not going to be Felix.
DoubleG
Footballguy
The very easy and obvious presumption would've been that Redman was going to get the snaps until Bell was back, so I had to point out that no, the player they just acquired on the cheap was NOT going to be the guy until Bell returns. It was a ridiculous statement and his total lack of touches in week 1 proved it.Just because Felix is going to get touches doesn't mean that he is FF usefull. Dwyer is taking snaps with #1s. Great. I still don't want him. STILL the only FF worthy RB in Pitt is Bell - and you probably won't be able to use him for a few weeks.None. I don't have any of them.Which one of them did you start?
I stand by statement that all are FF useless until L. Bell is back - and then he is, only if he is healthy.
I just like to point out when people talk authoritatively on a subject that they know nothing about so they don't deceive others. Do you still stand by your statement that it looks like Felix until Bell is back?
My statement about Felix was after they had cut Dwyer, so forgive me for presuming that a guy that they just cut wasn't going to start over the guy they signed in the offseason - and kept instead. The point was that Redman wasn't going to be the man - he clearly still isn't. Dwyer might get the nod - but he can stay on waivers in FF leagues that aren't 16 teamers with 25+ deep rosters.
Bell is more talented than the other 3 - which ever of the other 3 you prefer. My point, for virtually the last month and half, has been (despite your best attempts to paint it some other way for some reason) that the only Steeler RB worth having in a standard league (10-12 teams with 22-24 person rosters) is Bell - and only from week 6 on.
FWIW, I am avoiding the situation entirely, including Bell. I was before Pouncey's injury and certainly want no part of it after that. This is a dismal situation. But if anyone happened to need to start a Pit RB, I felt obligated to let others know that it was definitely not going to be Felix.
Ahh, yes. FF Ninja - the long-time bastion of altruistic truth and sensibility in the otherwise self-serving, blind stupidity of FF forum-dome. Thank you for gracing us all with your wisdom and charitably.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
I am.... Dwyer is free and should get a hefty workload. He has talent, it's a no brainer..... pay nothing and see what happens. He's the best RB on the Steeler roster imo.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Best active RB on the Steelers' roster is equivalent to the best athlete in the Special Olympics. Not to mention the issues with the o-line and the lack of weapons on offense in general. Plus, Dwyer just really isn't that good -- he's end of the bench material in both FF and the NFL, at best. He should be nowhere near anyone's starting lineup unless you're looking for 8-25-0 upside.
Signed,
Multi-dynasty league Dwyer owner and Steelers' homer
DoubleG
Footballguy
Since it was announced that Bell will return this week, it's probably time to put this one to bed.After 3 weeks, here's the way this ended up:
F. Jones: 17-71 (4.2 YPC) - started the last 2 games
J. Dwyer 13-41 (3.2 YPC)
I. Redman 10-12 (1.2 YPC) - but hey, FF Ninja was right, Redman got the start on 9/8 when he had 7 carries for 8 yards.
After 3 weeks, here's the way this ended up:
F. Jones: 17-71 (4.2 YPC) - started the last 2 games
J. Dwyer 13-41 (3.2 YPC)
I. Redman 10-12 (1.2 YPC) - but hey, FF Ninja was right, Redman got the start on 9/8 when he had 7 carries for 8 yards.
Felix started week 2 because Redman was injured right before the game and Dwyer had just been signed after being cut a few weeks earlier. Felix actually did not get any more touches after Redman was able to play again.
Then he may have started in week 3, but Dwyer got more carries.
So yeah, you still don't know what you were talking about. You made your call that it was Felix until Bell returns and then Felix didn't even get a single touch (or snap?) week 1. What kind of doofus bumps proof that he doesn't know what he's talking about?
DoubleG
Footballguy
Now is that really the way to respond to someone who at least gave you some credit for being a little bit right?
Redman was healthy Sunday night and got 0 carries and only a handful of snaps. Felix started and had 7/34 and caught 2/13 and was also on kick return.
In fact the guy you were touting was 3rd on the team in carries since your initial post decrying that the crack pipe be put down. It's cool though - only mature people admit when they were mistaken. I can tell by the name calling you don't have that problem. The one thing I didn't see coming was the Steelers re-signing Dwyer after they had cut him.
And regardless as to injury 4.2 YPC> 1.2 YPC - and like I said, you were right on Redman getting the start on 9/8, so on behalf of anyone who was desperate at RB, I thank you for the 8 rushing yards and 7 receiving yards in week 1.
I am sure there are other threads that need you expertise, so feel free to grace them with your knowledge and insight and by all means, keep up the name-calling and insulting those who have opinions that differ from yours. It's that kind of humility and civility that has long been your trademark and that which makes the shark pool such a fun place to discuss the nuances of fantasy football.
Redman was healthy Sunday night and got 0 carries and only a handful of snaps. Felix started and had 7/34 and caught 2/13 and was also on kick return.
In fact the guy you were touting was 3rd on the team in carries since your initial post decrying that the crack pipe be put down. It's cool though - only mature people admit when they were mistaken. I can tell by the name calling you don't have that problem. The one thing I didn't see coming was the Steelers re-signing Dwyer after they had cut him.
And regardless as to injury 4.2 YPC> 1.2 YPC - and like I said, you were right on Redman getting the start on 9/8, so on behalf of anyone who was desperate at RB, I thank you for the 8 rushing yards and 7 receiving yards in week 1.
I am sure there are other threads that need you expertise, so feel free to grace them with your knowledge and insight and by all means, keep up the name-calling and insulting those who have opinions that differ from yours. It's that kind of humility and civility that has long been your trademark and that which makes the shark pool such a fun place to discuss the nuances of fantasy football.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
I like Dwyer / Taylor as last round flyer types this year. Mendenhall was totally awful as a runner last year, but still somehow ended up as a viable RB3 (29th). There are some points to be had from the "big" RB in Arizona's committee, and the Ellington hype has made the other RBs in AZ total afterthoughts.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
arizona, where old steelers go to die
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Most of them have already died on the Steelers. Arizona just makes the funeral arrangements.
Insein
Footballguy
ponchsox
Footballguy
We Tigers
Footballguy
Based on the recent reports, it sounds like we'll know Ellington's status well before Monday.
Insein
Footballguy
Forget the season. Dwyer's a bum. But you need a body for this week if they don't tell us when Ellington is out.
TartanLion
Footballguy
In a small quirky situation, I would be having to decide between Matthews v Cards or Dwyer v Chargers. Just picked up Dwyer from the WW as Im weak at RB. Time to go do some research on how much tougher Cards are against the run than the Chargers.....
