are you serious ?mmm.......i was talking from a FF perspectiveThanks to Whisenhunt??? Where have you been?
They have ALWAYS been a mess. I have no thoughts on Whisenhunt either way, but it sure as heck didn't start when he got there. Geez...
I didn't know that one-year turnarounds were par for the course. Boldin's stat lines have been fine. Has his non-box score play been awful?Young 8 said:are you serious ?mmm.......i was talking from a FF perspectiveJ Giles Band said:Thanks to Whisenhunt??? Where have you been?
They have ALWAYS been a mess. I have no thoughts on Whisenhunt either way, but it sure as heck didn't start when he got there. Geez...
Adrian Wilson is a ghost, Leinart played like ####, Warner is playing like ####, Boldin/Fitz are not so good this year...the only guy who's really improved is Dockett
they were losing with Green......and they are losing now with Whisenhunt, so alll the changes (3-4, new offensive schemes, 2 QB system ) are really useful......
he had 1 big...big game, the others are 22yds, 83yds, 29yds, 40ydsI didn't know that one-year turnarounds were par for the course. Boldin's stat lines have been fine. Has his non-box score play been awful?Young 8 said:are you serious ?mmm.......i was talking from a FF perspectiveJ Giles Band said:Thanks to Whisenhunt??? Where have you been?
They have ALWAYS been a mess. I have no thoughts on Whisenhunt either way, but it sure as heck didn't start when he got there. Geez...
Adrian Wilson is a ghost, Leinart played like ####, Warner is playing like ####, Boldin/Fitz are not so good this year...the only guy who's really improved is Dockett
they were losing with Green......and they are losing now with Whisenhunt, so alll the changes (3-4, new offensive schemes, 2 QB system ) are really useful......
Why are we discussing O players in the IDP section?he had 1 big...big game, the others are 22yds, 83yds, 29yds, 40ydsI didn't know that one-year turnarounds were par for the course. Boldin's stat lines have been fine. Has his non-box score play been awful?Young 8 said:are you serious ?mmm.......i was talking from a FF perspectiveJ Giles Band said:Thanks to Whisenhunt??? Where have you been?
They have ALWAYS been a mess. I have no thoughts on Whisenhunt either way, but it sure as heck didn't start when he got there. Geez...
Adrian Wilson is a ghost, Leinart played like ####, Warner is playing like ####, Boldin/Fitz are not so good this year...the only guy who's really improved is Dockett
they were losing with Green......and they are losing now with Whisenhunt, so alll the changes (3-4, new offensive schemes, 2 QB system ) are really useful......
Dansby had the same stats in the 2nd half of last season when he was starter, Wilson has not been quiet....he sucks (from best FF SS to average)I am by no means a Whisenhunt apologist or supporter... That said, I've seen some things defensively from Arizona this year you never saw under Denny Green. They actually appear to be developing a defensive identity and have shown the ability to win without having to get into a shoot-out with teams every week.As far as the FF implications... I'll give it more than half a season to determine any trends. Obviously Rolle losing his starting spot was a huge hit for his owners, and Wilson has been quiet. On the other hand, Dockett has emerged as a DL1 and Dansby (before getting hurt) was playing like a LB1.
check better next timeDansby last 8 games (after a mid-season injury) 2006
Since this is supposed to be a constructive discussion thread, I will refrain... but you're essentially arguing with yourself. All I said was that Dansby was playing like a LB1 before his injury. I suggest that you "check better" when reading the post.check better next time
mmm.....i thought YOU were the one talking about Whisenhunt "defensive improvement"Since this is supposed to be a constructive discussion thread, I will refrain... but you're essentially arguing with yourself. All I said was that Dansby was playing like a LB1 before his injury. I suggest that you "check better" when reading the post.check better next time
Mmm... I've quoted MY OWN post so that you can actually READ IT.As you can see, I actually stated that I think the Cardinals defense is developing an identity now and yes I actually do think they are improved over the Green units.Holy %&*#.... A debate requires valid arguments on BOTH sides.I am by no means a Whisenhunt apologist or supporter... That said, I've seen some things defensively from Arizona this year you never saw under Denny Green. They actually appear to be developing a defensive identity and have shown the ability to win without having to get into a shoot-out with teams every week.As far as the FF implications... I'll give it more than half a season to determine any trends. Obviously Rolle losing his starting spot was a huge hit for his owners, and Wilson has been quiet. On the other hand, Dockett has emerged as a DL1 and Dansby (before getting hurt) was playing like a LB1.
Mmm... I've quoted MY OWN post so that you can actually READ IT.mmm.......i was talking from a FF perspective
you are right people here don't open threads asking why their player has only 2 tkls or no sacksMmm... actually this is a FOOTBALL forum.
i posted the facts and the stats...YOU are the one posting smilesnice job, keep goingNever let the facts get in the way of a good argument... huh?
The first correct thing you've said all day... you did post some stats. You showed that Dansby's stats this season are basically the same as the 2nd half of last season. Bravo!
The problem you've failed to realize all along is... no one ever said otherwise.
Goodnight my friend... I hope tomorrow is a better day for you.
you must have some problems reading....YOUR OWN POSTSsorry for you chumpI've seen some things defensively from Arizona this year you never saw under Denny Green. They actually appear to be developing a defensive identity
As far as the FF implications... I'll give it more than half a season to determine any trends. Obviously Rolle losing his starting spot was a huge hit for his owners, and Wilson has been quiet. On the other hand, Dockett has emerged as a DL1 and Dansby (before getting hurt) was playing like a LB1.
Nothing to be sorry about... But 'chump'??? C'mon, you can do better than that! You gonna wanna meet outside too? I'd love that one... You obviously CANNOT read because if you look CLOSELY at my post you will see that I said (and I quote): "...and Dansby was playing like a LB1." No where in that sentence was there any comparison to Dansby last season.The first correct thing you've said all day... you did post some stats. You showed that Dansby's stats this season are basically the same as the 2nd half of last season. Bravo!
The problem you've failed to realize all along is... no one ever said otherwise.
Goodnight my friend... I hope tomorrow is a better day for you.you must have some problems reading....YOUR OWN POSTSsorry for you chump :(I've seen some things defensively from Arizona this year you never saw under Denny Green. They actually appear to be developing a defensive identity
As far as the FF implications... I'll give it more than half a season to determine any trends. Obviously Rolle losing his starting spot was a huge hit for his owners, and Wilson has been quiet. On the other hand, Dockett has emerged as a DL1 and Dansby (before getting hurt) was playing like a LB1.
LMAOYou obviously CANNOT read because if you look CLOSELY at my post you will see that I said (and I quote): "...and Dansby was playing like a LB1." No where in that sentence was there any comparison to Dansby last season.
i say it again "try to read better next time"As far as the FF implications... I'll give it more than half a season to determine any trends.
Obviously Rolle losing his starting spot was a huge hit for his owners, and Wilson has been quiet. (downgrade)
On the other hand (= means UPGRADE), Dockett has emerged as a DL1 and Dansby (before getting hurt) was playing like a LB1.
Why don't you guys just give insight on the topic being discussed and stop arguing. Does it really matter?LMAOYou obviously CANNOT read because if you look CLOSELY at my post you will see that I said (and I quote): "...and Dansby was playing like a LB1." No where in that sentence was there any comparison to Dansby last season.i say it again "try to read better next time"As far as the FF implications... I'll give it more than half a season to determine any trends.
Obviously Rolle losing his starting spot was a huge hit for his owners, and Wilson has been quiet. (downgrade)
On the other hand (= means UPGRADE), Dockett has emerged as a DL1 and Dansby (before getting hurt) was playing like a LB1.
So you agree Dansby was playing like a LB1, right?If so... we are saying the same thing. Of course, I've been trying to tell you that for an hour now...LMAOYou obviously CANNOT read because if you look CLOSELY at my post you will see that I said (and I quote): "...and Dansby was playing like a LB1." No where in that sentence was there any comparison to Dansby last season.i say it again "try to read better next time"As far as the FF implications... I'll give it more than half a season to determine any trends.
Obviously Rolle losing his starting spot was a huge hit for his owners, and Wilson has been quiet. (downgrade)
On the other hand (= means UPGRADE), Dockett has emerged as a DL1 and Dansby (before getting hurt) was playing like a LB1.
LOLno you re saying that Ken Moron Whisenhunt brought improvements on this team.....i can' t see themSo you agree Dansby was playing like a LB1, right?
If so... we are saying the same thing. Of course, I've been trying to tell you that for an hour now...
i said that on the 3rd post of this thread..........Now we are getting somewhere. C'mon, I know you can be constructive and not just resort to name calling when you get your feelings hurt.
Thank you... and sorry I allowed myself to be baited into that.Anthony Borbely said:Let's dial down on the tool posts and stick to discussion only. The one good thing about the IDP forum is that it is largely devoid of threads like this. If you want to name call and insult, take it elsewhere. Thanks, Anthony Borbely.
Anthony Borbely said:Let's dial down on the tool posts and stick to discussion only. The one good thing about the IDP forum is that it is largely devoid of threads like this. If you want to name call and insult, take it elsewhere. Thanks, Anthony Borbely.