Among 79 QBs who have thrown at least 3,000 passes since the merger, Palmer ranks 14th in QB rating and 15th in ANY/A. That's very good even after you adjust for this century's league-wide upward trends.That sucks. I know most people think he was washed up this year, but in reality the passing protection was the worst it's been since he came to Arizona. He's still got a cannon.
...I think the final answer to this thread's question was "yes." The guy played on the Bengals when they were a train wreck of a team with a WR1 who couldn't learn his routes on his next team. The only time he had a competent OC and surrounding players he blew up, but unfortunately that wasn't until age 35. His numbers in Oakland when he basically had 1 week to learn the playbook and DHB was his #1 WR were actually shockingly good.
If memory serves, he also elected to not have Tommy John surgery after an elbow injury which seemed to really impact him for a year or two.Among 79 QBs who have thrown at least 3,000 passes since the merger, Palmer ranks 14th in QB rating and 15th in ANY/A. That's very good even after you adjust for this century's league-wide upward trends.
He just happened to have the misfortune to be within 4 years of age of the guys sitting at Nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, and 10.
Speaking Tuesday, Carson Palmer said he has "no idea" if 2017 will be his final season.
Palmer is headed into his age-37 campaign. Riddled with injury throughout his 14-year career, he's indeed likely on his last legs. In an attempt to keep him fresh, the Cardinals are easing him into the offseason program. Palmer has eliminated throws in March and April, and will receive routine off days throughout the year. With both Palmer and Larry Fitzgerald on the brink of retirement, the Cardinals' current offensive core is about to age out.
Source: Kyle Odegard on Twitter
Really going out on a limb there to prefer the consensus QB14 or QB17 over QB21Stompin' Tom Connors said:Coach speak.
Cards will be competitive this year again, have a quality stable of receivers, and one of the better O-lines in the conference, if not the NFL.
They have traditionally been a pass-heavy offense but I imagine some of the gameplan to save Palmer down the stretch is shifting that philosophy to be even more run heavy given that DJ has proven he's not just a stud but one that can handle a heavy workload. Having a guy like Iupati, a quality run-blocker, to road grade in front of you makes the shift easier.
Sub 4K PY, sub 25 PTD, dropping Palmer from around Top 15 to just inside Top 25. Palmer has the squad and veteran wiles to definitely be a comeback factor, but my money is on the under, and for me, at least, makes other backup QB2s with upside (like Dalton or Stafford) more appealing to me.
Speaking about Carson Palmer, David Johnson said "his arm is definitely feeling good."
"His arm was so fresh I actually had to get stitches in my finger," Johnson quipped. Entering his age-37 campaign, Palmer will never regain his early-career arm strength, but it's good news he's feeling "fresh" after an offseason designed to keep him as such. With 4.34 speedster John Brown back to full health and the Cardinals more aware of Palmer's limitations, a bounce-back is a realistic possibility.
Related: John Brown, David Johnson
Source: NFL.com
Jul 22 - 10:53 AM
definitely buying Palmer this year.So Andrew Luck fell to me last night and I just couldn't pass on him. Thinking about Carson as a potential early season replacement off the wire. His early season schedule looks juicy:
at Detroit
at Indianapolis
Dallas
San Fran
Anyone else buying Carson for the first month?
Glad I'm not the only one. So it's a two keeper league, and they're kept in whichever round they were originally drafted in, so it's not black and white really, but I ended up with Luck in the 7th. He was the 11th QB off the board (counting Brady and Cam as keepers), which I thought was crazy. Carr and Dak went ahead of him, I was all over him at that point.definitely buying Palmer this year.
Where did you get Luck?
Anyone else going with Palmer tomorrow? He does seem like he could be a nice option for platooning this year, especially early on. I think this could be a good strategy, but week one is always so uncertain.definitely buying Palmer this year.
Where did you get Luck?
I think I'm starting him in a couple leagues. I really loved the Palmer/Luck combo this year. Like the guy above mentioned, Palmer's early schedule meshes very well with Luck's expected missed time.Anyone else going with Palmer tomorrow? He does seem like he could be a nice option for platooning this year, especially early on. I think this could be a good strategy, but week one is always so uncertain.
Anyone else going with Palmer tomorrow? He does seem like he could be a nice option for platooning this year, especially early on. I think this could be a good strategy, but week one is always so uncertain.
Starting him this week. Platooning with Rivers
Rivers was 6th in scoring last yr with mostly poop to throw to for most of the season. I think (hope) he's criminally underrated this yrWent cheap on QBs in my auction and have the same combo. Hoping they both play more like they did in 2015 as opposed to 2016.
If the Cards can protect him I think Palmer has one more good year left. But that's a big if.
Starting him today and wishing for the best.
Or before the end of week one....2 QBs, 8 team league, starting Palmer and Bradford and benching Rivers. I got both Palmer and Bradford at the end of the draft, and the value for the first few weeks looks incredible.
Obviously when it's week 7 and Bradford is hurt, Palmer is old and bad, and half of the LAC o-line has contracted E. coli, I'll be looking a lot dumber.
I was forced into this because of Winston as well and thinking I may have been better off with the zero. 3 Int's in the 1st half.Starting him with Winston on his "bye" this week
The thing about playing the Colts this year is your best scoring opportunity is when their offense is on the field.So, with DJ probably out for some time... is Palmer untouchable? He looked bad (as opposed to unlucky). And the weapons on that team are, outside Fitz, not really dependable.
On the other hands, next week is against the Colts. That's very tempting. I'm leaning towards starting Palmer again in week 2 and pairing him with heavy drinking.