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Is Ray Rice an RB1 in PPR? (1 Viewer)
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MCguidance
Footballguy
Yup.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
.5 PPR league:
1. ADP
2. R. Brown
3. CJ3
4. MJD
5. R. Rice
6. C. Benson
1. ADP
2. R. Brown
3. CJ3
4. MJD
5. R. Rice
6. C. Benson
FantasyMan
Footballguy
Ray Rice is top 5 PPR and non-PPR for the next couple of years.
He is currently 4th in my league. The other current top 10 PPR RBs who I expect to stay there would be Gore, Peterson and Benson. All the rest have a very good shot at falling outside of the top 10 by the time the season is over to make room for Forte, Pierre Thomas and Ahmad Bradshaw.
Rice may end up as the number one back in PPR once he starts scoring with more regularity.
He is currently 4th in my league. The other current top 10 PPR RBs who I expect to stay there would be Gore, Peterson and Benson. All the rest have a very good shot at falling outside of the top 10 by the time the season is over to make room for Forte, Pierre Thomas and Ahmad Bradshaw.
Rice may end up as the number one back in PPR once he starts scoring with more regularity.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
Low end?
az_prof
Footballguy
In my league he is the fifth highest RB and the 17th highest player overall. He is clearly an RB1. Question is will this continue and I don't see any reason to think it won't. He does everything well and is clearly the featured guy in a powerful run offense. McGahee will vulture TDs but that won't stop him from being a RB1. People who drafted him in the fifth or fourth rounds are getting good value.
JHicks22
Footballguy
#6 and rising in my league. If and when McGahee gets phased out of the offense, Rice will be even better. McGahee has 38 carries/199 yards/5 TD's, and 8 Rec/58 yards/2 TD's. If you take half of McGahee's stats away and tack those on to Rice's production so far, that's a nice bump. Rice dynasty owners have to be smiling right now.
Operation PHASE OUT MCGAHEE may already be underway:
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Operation PHASE OUT MCGAHEE may already be underway:
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LittlePhatty
Footballguy
I don't see how that video says they're phasing out McGahee. He said something to the effect of "We're gonna play all our guys."
JHicks22
Footballguy
If you scroll down and read the actual column underneath the video player you will see the feature on it.
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when I start seeing him used more regularly on the goal-line instead of McGahee.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
The article is just McGahee himself questioning why he wasn't used. He says "You'll have to talk to Cam Cameron". No coach was quoted in the article at all.As mentioned in a previous thread, Rice scored from 20+ yards out, not giving McGahee a chance to get the red zone touches. There is nothing in that article or video that even hints at them switching to Rice for goal line duties. I think they'll continue to use both in the same manner as they have so far.
I say this as a Rice owner. I'd love for him to get more TD chances, but I just don't see how that article supports that theory.
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footballnerd
Footballguy
Every week starter now?
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Unless you are loaded at RB, I don't see how you can bench him.
At MN this Sunday is a bit scary. I know...I know, he'll catch passes out in the flats if they can't run, but that's easier said/planned than done. As a Rice owner I'm excited about his production and, although maybe a bit slanted toward Rice, he appears to be a more complete back than Willis at this stage of their careers.
thehornet
Footballguy
I would like to but I am without Ronnie and Gore this week, so I gott roll with Rice and Marshawn.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
No way- he is going in- too many bye week situations with RBs. Plus RR is a dual threat which will help frustrate the Viking defense. This will be another great game and RR will be a play maker in this tilt.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Debating between Rice and Portis vs KC. Portis (once again) has a great matchup, but that hasn't meant much so far. Baltimore will have to score a bunch to keep up with Minnesota so I'm leaning Rice right now.
Liquid Courage
Footballguy
Not me. Minn has been tough to run on, but they're not impossible. And with Ray-Ray getting phased more into the passing game; there's extra reasons to keep him in.
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
If Operation PHASE OUT MCGAHEE is underway maybe the Ravens care more about Ray Rice's FF production rather than actual wins.The last two games when McGahee had less touches the Ravens lost. I'm not sure if getting Willis more involved would have resulted in wins for the Ravens, but I think that the coaching staff may go back to more of a shared workload to get things back on track.
steelcityman
Footballguy
I enjoy starting him each week, big play capabilities, good receps, decent YPC, scores some(when McGahee doesnt).
However he has had a couple real nice weeks and the Raven lost.
However he has had a couple real nice weeks and the Raven lost.
lyon812
Footballguy
Considering sitting him for Moreno against SD. Depends on Buckhalter's health. That SD run D is too tempting to ignore if Moreno's going to be full-time.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Not me, I'll be running with him and AP in the same game.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
No question he's an RB1 in PPR.
He's 4th overall in my league:
Adrian Peterson
Ronnie Brown
Chris Johnson
Ray Rice
Maurice Jones Drew
Only 2 points separate 2nd from 5th.
I understand MIN is a very tough matchup, but he is a must start in PPR. Only in a non-PPR would I consider sitting him. Rice is third among backs in receptions, and first in reception yards -- the opportunity is there, and I don't see the Ravens changing how they use him in the passing game despite facing a tough run D.
In fact, one could argue that they may utilize him more out of the backfield as a receiver than as a runner if the D they are facing is particularly stout.
He's 4th overall in my league:
Adrian Peterson
Ronnie Brown
Chris Johnson
Ray Rice
Maurice Jones Drew
Only 2 points separate 2nd from 5th.
I understand MIN is a very tough matchup, but he is a must start in PPR. Only in a non-PPR would I consider sitting him. Rice is third among backs in receptions, and first in reception yards -- the opportunity is there, and I don't see the Ravens changing how they use him in the passing game despite facing a tough run D.
In fact, one could argue that they may utilize him more out of the backfield as a receiver than as a runner if the D they are facing is particularly stout.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
I'm probably sitting him for D-Will and Pierre Thomas this week (non-PPR) with Ronnie on a bye...not sure yet though, D-Will has been a big disappointment and he might not get it going this week either..
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thehornet
Footballguy
I have Rice and I am not sure the Moss owner would do it. He also overrates his players tremendously.On another note, there is an owner in my league who offered me Sims Walker for Rice after Week 1 and I was so close to pulling the trade, but didnt. Then after Week 2, he offered me Sims Walker and Felix for Rice and I again highly considered and rejected. Now he has offered me Sims Walker, Felix and Celek and I flat out rejected him. I told him that he would need to put a really big name on the other side of he trade for me to even consider these days. I play in a 2 QB league and he is pondering offering me Rivers now. In this league, QB;s are gold. Just trying to give you some feedback on trade value. It is gonig way up. If he has anything in the neighborhood of 100 total yards, with 5 ot more catches and a score this week against Minnesota then his value will probably equal first round material until the end of this year leading up to next years drafts.
Rovers
Footballguy
Just bumped an old thread on Rice's draft position this year. Seems to have worked out as a 4th round pick so far. In one league with a flex, I've been starting both Rice and MaGahee as #2 and #3 RBs. That has worked well so far. I won't bench him against Minny. I'll ride this horse until I eat dirt.
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
Wrong. I'm actually a Rice owner in multiple leagues and own McGahee in none. What I am being is objective, nobody here cares about my team or how I manage it, so I try to look at the big picture. This leads me to believe that if a bigger dose of McGahee resulted in 3 W's earlier in the season (albeit vs. crap competition), then it stands to reason that the coaching staff may just get McGahee's touches up again to both preserve Rice for the stretch and to give a bigger mix of RB's an opponent has to gameplan for. To think that McGahee will be completely phased out, barring injury, IMO is foolish.
I really don't think they lost to the Bengals because of anythign to do with the lack of use of McGahee. They lost to the Bengals because they helped the Bengals march down the field on the final drive with bonehead penalties.Anyone think Ray Lewis was complaining about the officials after he tried to take Ocho's head off and got a personal foul for it??
If you were offered Moss for Rice straight across would you do it? My other WR's are Jennings, MSW, Cotchery, Branch, Mass(Cle). Would I be giving up to much in Rice to get Moss? Right now i am going Sjax & Rice with Benson in the flex. If i got Moss I would have to go with Sjax & Benson with Hightower in the flex. I guess what i am asking is Moss worth Rice? Funy that I am asking that now. I don't think anyone would have been asking that after the first week of the season.
bonesman
Footballguy
In one league (PPR) I'm going w/ MJD at RB and Roddy, Hines Ward and Royal (or Braylon) for WR/FlexIn another (16 teams) I'm starting him with MJD and Leon Washington... I've started him AND McGahee in this league a couple weeks, but would sit them both for this one if I had another viable option.That said, I think he'll have an alright game (80-90 combined yardage) and could be pretty studly in PPR with another 7 or 8 catches out of the backfield.Oscar said:
skillz
Footballguy
In a non-PPR league I am going with Slaton over Rice. I don't feel good about doing so but also have a suspicion that McGahee will get more touches this week and Rice's production is going to suffer this week v Minn. If he had an easier matchup I would start him but @ Minn is something I am going to stay away from.Oscar said:
JHicks22
Footballguy
I don't think playing McGahee more has anything to do with the Ravens W-L record either.
purplehaze67
Footballguy
Just as a value gauge...16 team PPR IDP dynasty league, I just traded Felix Jones and Mario Williams for Rice.
SouthJersey
Footballguy
He's been better by a long shot over the 2 RBs I took in the 1st 2 rounds of my draft:
Dangelo Williams & Brian Westbrook
Dangelo Williams & Brian Westbrook
shadow2k
Footballguy
I have no idea, I've got too many options. I have PThomas, Moreno, Forte, and Portis as well. I really need to trade a couple of these guys, but when I'm countered with PThomas & Moreno for Greg Jennings, the talks tend to break down.Looking at MIN's run D so far, it doesn't look as though they've been as dominant as everyone seems to think.Jamal Lewis 11/57 & 3/47Kevin Smith 24/83 & 2/10Glen Coffee 25/54Ryan Grant 11/51 & 4/50Steven Jackson 21/84 & 2/25Cleveland and GB didn't run a lot, but had success when they did. Det and StL both seemed to do OK, not great. Obviously SF didn't do crap on the ground.They're giving up 96ypg, 3.8ypc, but the longest run against them was 15yds, and they've allowed 0 rushing TD's. While they are definitely good against the run, they can obviously be run on to a point. At least between the 20's, which is where Rice has mainly been used. Now playing McGahee would scare me, I wouldn't have an issue sticking Rice in their over most other options.I just need to figure out who's going to piss me off the least when they score two TD's on my bench like Portis did this week.Oscar said:
