Limp Dogg Bizkits
Footballguy
Has he even had a target today?
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Javon Walker (1 Viewer)
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packersfan
Footballguy
He's been a decoy. He's been on the field for maybe a dozen snaps or so but Cutler didn't even look in his direction once. He clearly wasn't going to be part of the game plan today.
GoNads
Footballguy
Thanks Skeletor :(
But, wait, I thought Shanahan doesn't do the whole "decoy" thing....
-OZ-
Footballguy
I don't think he misleads as to who is playing, not sure he tells everyone his game plan.
packersfan
Footballguy
I think it's a pretty stupid thing to do but that's just my opinion. At some point, you'd think the opposing defense would realize the player on the field has no value and wouldn't be concerned with him. The Broncos were basically playing at a man disadvantage every time Walker was on the field. The whole decoy thing, in my opinion, is ridiculous and pointless.
SSOG
Moderator
While injured, maybe, but when he's healthy, there's no question who the #1 option in Denver is... and it ain't Brandon Marshall.I don't know if Walker was being used as a decoy, or if he was just used in 3 WR sets and the weather forced Denver out of that gameplan. Either way, Cutler didn't look his direction all day long.FavreCo said:
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
I'm surprised they even played Javon on the slick Soldier Field turf today.
jamil
Footballguy
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Not even close. You have not watched much football. This is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen. marshall is barely on pace to hit 1K yards and all of 4 TD's or so. Walker made the top 10 the year after he blew out a knee while playing on a new team. What are you Brandon Marshall's mom?Oh, and back to the point before I read this crap....Walker was not targeted once. His name was only mentioned when he had a false start called against him in the first quarter. But with that slick track I didn't expect him to see a lot of passes his way...FavreCo said:
Young 8
Footballguy
847yds in 11 games -------> projection 1232yds in 16 gameslol
wait until the end of the next season for the new n.1 in Denver
slumpbuster
Footballguy
marshall is a good receiver but he's not nearly as good as javon yet. he does not run routes as well, nor does he get separation like javon does. Tonight was the first time I've really seen him smoke a DB. He also doesn't have particularly good hands. He will get better with time, but IMO he's still a bit raw.
His best skill is his YAC ability. He's very goood with the ball in space.
His best skill is his YAC ability. He's very goood with the ball in space.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Walker looked like he's still hurt, I don't think he played at all in the second half.
Big Score
Footballguy
Here's an idea for ya. Try reading the thread you're posting in. You never know, but you might actually see the answer to your question.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I think it started raining about mid 2nd quarter. That may have been the end of his day. Not a good idea to test a bum leg on a slick track....
Thanks i really appreciate your help!!Here's an idea for ya. Try reading the thread you're posting in. You never know, but you might actually see the answer to your question.
packersfan
Footballguy
He was on the field in the second half so I don't think the weather had anything to do with his lack of involvement. I think it was clearly the plan to have him be a decoy. The point of doing that and putting Walker at risk and ensuring your team plays short-handed the entire time he's on the field is something only Shanahan knows.Again, I think it's a stupid strategy that rarely works - at least not against a defense smart enough to figure out if a guy is or isn't even being looked at in the passing game.
Thanks, i agree with you, that was not very smart, but then again denver did choose to kick to Hester twice
. Which IMO was not smart either
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I don't remember seeing him on the field at all in the second half. Then again I was surfing the NFL.com game casts while watching that game on TV so I could've missed it. I just don't remember seeing him in the second half at all....
packersfan
Footballguy
He was out there. Not sure how many snaps, but he definitely was on the field. I recall specifically him being on the field for the final couple of snaps on Denver's last drive before OT.
packersfan
Footballguy
I agree. I can't figure it out. At some point, aren't the Bears going to figure out Cutler isn't even looking in Walker's direction? You'd think they would. It was clear to me in the second quarter Walker was just a decoy and I'm not an NFL defensive coordinator. I'd think Lovie Smith and his staff would have drawn the same conclusion. And when you factor in the poor conditions all he was doing was putting Walker at risk physically. I just don't get the decoy thing. Never have and never will. If the guy isn't physically ready to be involved, sit him. It's not like Cutler had been playing poorly without Walker of late. He had been playing pretty well so he could survive without him for another game if need be.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Just my opinion, but you can't count the Bears game as a true start for Javon (he didn't actually start for Denver anyway--Stokely did). IF Javon starts next week, that's his first game back as far as I'm concerned...& at this time of the season, there are few of us who can take a chance on a guy who has missed the majority of the season, and who has been hyped to play several times, only to only be a late scratch, or, like this week, a pure decoy. I think all Javon owners need to look elsewhere unless & until he actually produces during a game.
